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How Can You Escape the Damnation of Hell?

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How Can You Escape the Damnation of Hell?

Jesus asked that question to the "generation of vipers", devils, the offspring of the Beast. I have GOOD NEWS for them. It is impossible for those (goats) LEFT after the wheat (sheep-humans) are removed to the Barn (right hand) of Heaven to be saved from the fire. All tares (goats) are left in bundles to be burned.

1 John 3:8. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil

Genesis 3:14. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Hebrews 2:6. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? 7. Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: 14. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15. And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

Isaiah 45:9. Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? 10. Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth? 11. Thus saith the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me. 12. I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

Psalm 139:13. For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb. 14. I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. 15. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. 16. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. 17. How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!

Isaiah 46:3. Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: 4. And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you.

Since YOU are both created by God and born of God from the womb ... NO HUMAN BEING COMMIT SIN!! Here is why!

A. Isaiah 53:1. Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? 2. For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

B. 2 Corinthians 5:18. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19. To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

HELL - O DEVILS, seed of the Serpent called the Devil and Satan!

Isaiah 14:12. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 20. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned. 21. Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. (All devils pass through solid matter. They cannot dwell on earth’s surface like men and animals do. I do not want your eyes to miss this significant point).

Matthew 23:33. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

John 8:44. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Matthew 25:41. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

2 Thessalonians 2:8. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish

Isaiah 27:1. In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Revelation 12: 9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 12. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! (Her seed) for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 15. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed.

Clearly ONLY THE BEAST and all his invisible "images" (demons), the seed of the serpent and tares LEFT cannot escape the damnation of hell which is specifically prepared for THEM ONLY!

Ecclesiastes 3:14. I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

Preachers and devils cannot add human beings to Satan’s punishment (damnation of hell), neither can devils be saved from it! The words and understanding of men are but VANITY and dust!

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So what is you understanding of "Hell"? Christ and Paul were both preaching against the religious priests and rulers and condemning them, along with God thru the OT prophets.
So you don't think the "hellfire" was that of Jerusalem in 70ad? How come Paul never mentioned a hellfire in his epistles? You would think he would have at least brought it up. The way I read it is sin is death, everlasting death away from the presence of God. A person born of the spirit cannot die according to the bible, and those not in the spirit return to dust and completely erased from God's memory.
So is your belief one of an eternal hellfire for reprobate souls? Do you believe one suffers eternal torment in flames? Or that a person is thrown into the fire and consumed both body and soul?
How can someone be eternally tormented unless he is in spirit, as only those in the spirit can live eternally.
 
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So what is you understanding of "Hell"?

Hold that thought. It's irrelevant to this. The OP is giving a short argument for the Messanic status of Jesus by prophecy.

Second, pretty much everything you have said and the questions you pose are irrelevant to the argument by prophecy here. If you are looking for someone to defend, say, the Calvinistic (to pick a random system) doctrine of hell, then go ask the Calvinists.
 
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Why not eternal torment ? .....

Well, why not? I suppose it depends upon the perspective from which you view things. Look at this:

Quote:Romans 12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

THAT seems to be my Father's WAY! Check it out:

Quote:Matthew 5:43. Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45. That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47. And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48. Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Now that is POSITIVE and CONSTRUCTIVE "punishment"! May it last forever. When you start seeing things God's way rather than man's way .... you cannot use your head for "thinking"! the Word itself must become your point of view. That is what happens when the first quote defines the meaning of "burn them up (stairs) forever" and ever. I say let "all men" become burning candles!! Can you say, "Amen"?!

Proverbs 20:27 The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly.

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Two seeds have diametrically opposing destinies ....

1. Sheep, good seed (wheat), seed of the woman are "drawn by God and Jesus" to the barn of Heaven:

Proverbs 15:24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

2. Tares, seed of the serpent, images of the Beast, demons. These remain below "in bundles" for the "fire prepared for the devils and his angels".

Isaiah 14:12. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 21. Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. 22. For I will rise up against them, saith the Lord of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the Lord.

We do not have to "worry" about our end! Father "FIXED IT" all from the beginning!

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John is "saying nothing". He understands ....

Quote:Isaiah 55:8. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10. For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11. So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

These two are saying everything!

Jesus

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Your Father

Isaiah 44:22 I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.

Isaiah 43:11. I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour. 12. I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God.

Isaiah 57:16. For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made. 17. For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart. 18. I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners. 19. I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the Lord; and I will heal him.

Malachi 3:6. For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. 17. And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Isaiah 66:22. For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

Isaiah 45: 22. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

NOW ... you have the TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ and all the Words that proceeded from the mouth of God. You have to determine for yourself if these two Saviors are WORTHY of your faith and allegiance .... or whether or not you prefer the witness of preachers or the ideas in your own mind. What will you do?

Isaiah 43:24 ... thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities. 25. I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins. 26. Put me in remembrance: let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified. 27. Thy first father hath sinned, and thy teachers have transgressed against me.

Romans 3:3. For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? 4. God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Isaiah 55:8. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10. For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11. So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE if it is worthwhile for YOU to TRUST GOD and agree with the testimony of Jesus Christ. "It's your thing! Do what you want to do! I can't tell you what" ... you MUST do! Choose! Is it (1) God and Jesus ... or (2) your preacher and the doctrines and commandments of men we all were taught?!

Matthew 4:4. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

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Response from another message board to this post

So I was born in hell, and I will die in hell (be circumcised)! It is no BIG DEAL …. “circumcision” has no sting!

Psalm 139:7. Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? 8. If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Proverbs 15:24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath.

Psalm 86:12. I will praise thee, O Lord my God, with all my heart: and I will glorify thy name for evermore. 13. For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.

John 12:32. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Hosea 13:14. I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

John 10:27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Isaiah 14:12. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13. For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell (this earth environment), to the sides of the pit.

"Hell" is this world and this life in the valley of the shadow of death, Satan's prison house. And he has "made hell" out of the lives of many human victims.

Can you say, “Amen”?!

Scholarship! Scholarship, gentlemen! Your limited scholarship is showing in your responses!
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Luke 2:10. And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. 14. Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Isaiah 40:1. Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. 2. Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the Lord's hand double for all her sins.

Isaiah 57:16. For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made. 17. For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart. 18. I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners. 19. I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the Lord; and I will heal him.

Malachi 3:6. For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. 17. And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. (ALL MEN get the "prodigal son" treatment, Luke 15:20-24).

Isaiah 45:22. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Isaiah 2:1. The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2. And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. 4. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Isaiah 66:22. For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

Carefully observe "who" is speaking to you. This is the Almighty Himself speaking for himself concerning His PLAN. As Jesus said, You cannot live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD PROCEEDING FROM HIS LIPS". He also said, "Thy Word is TRUTH"! These Words proceeded directly from His lips! Do you believe them? Can you receive them? Your persona peace and joy is determined by your TRUST in the Most High. If you prefer to trust the errors and misunderstanding of men more and humans who "know in part" are really your "shepherd" rather than "the Lord", you will miss out on this significant blessing. When your Father "speaks", bow your head in reverence and give Him your undivided attention. (Your blind "preacher" cannot think for you)! FOCUS on His Words. They are GOLD!

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This is the "summary" from a following post ....

"Hell" is this world and this life in the valley of the shadow of death, Satan's prison house. And he has "made hell" out of the lives of many human victims.

Can you say, “Amen”?!
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Awwww :sigh: I find that Mr. GoodNews Inc.'s posts lack in humility...Please be careful, Sir... You give the impression that you think you are 'holier-than-thou'. Maybe I am totally wrong but this is the impression I get from your posts, brother. I know you really love the Lord, but be careful now.

Mr. GoodNewsInc., please consider the Hebrew definition of the word 'hell' which is found in the Old Testament. This hell was 'scheol' in Hebrew or 'hades' in Greek - a 'land of the dead' where the souls of the dead awaited the Resurrection of Jesus, after which they were judged either for death everlasting or life everlasting.

Hell, as we know it today (since Christ's Resurrection) , is a place or a state in which a soul is eternally separated from God. Check the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man.

Please be careful to keep within the historical and cultural context of Bible times when interpreting Scripture. Do you have Bible handbooks in which you can familiarize yourself with the Hebrew customs and expressions of the time?

As for me I chose 'Victrixa' - from the Latin language which means 'triumphant'.

Domine Iesu, miserere nobis! :prayer:

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So infinite punishment for the "crime" of being born a human being is NOT unfair? Do you believe that ANYTHING is unfair?:confused:

Hell will be full of those who chose to serve themselves rather than God. Those in heaven will be the ones who chose to surrender their wills to God, and obey His commandments. Everyone Has the same freewill choice so it has nothing to do with whats fair, it has to do with what will you choose to do.
 
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