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Was it evil to kill an innocent man?
I believe that God is only good, righteous and fair. That there are many reasons why God did and does the things that He does that I do not know and will probably only know when I meet Him in heaven.Do you believe that for God to be good, He must be fair in trying to save everyone equally?
Did God plan that evil act?Who is that man? If it is Jesus Christ, yes it was. Jesus tells us in scripture that no one could have taken His life from Him, unless He chose to lay it down.
Given that fact and the fact that Jesus did in obedience what the Father asked of Him, I do believe that Jesus was in control and chose.
That didn't answer my question.I believe that God is only good, righteous and fair. That there are many reasons why God did and does the things that He does that I do not know and will probably only know when I meet Him in heaven.
I trust God that He is what He says that He is. That He is just, righteous and perfect in all His ways.
I don't know that that act was evil.Did God plan that evil act?
Is there something confusing about my response when I said, "I believe that God is ONLY perfect, righteous, just and fair".That didn't answer my question.
Is murdering an innocent man an evil act? Yes? No?I don't know that that act was evil.
Did the Father asking Jesus to save mankind, was that evil in your opinion? If yes, than God cannot be perfect or righteous or just in your eyes. But even if that is what you think, does not mean that it is true.
Didn't you already say that you believe that God predestined the fall?
I understood what you said. But it didn't answer my question.Is there something confusing about my response when I said, "I believe that God is ONLY perfect, righteous, just and fair".
I think that is pretty clear.
For mankind with their sinful heart, yes it is according to the 10 Commandments.Is murdering an innocent man an evil act? Yes? No?
I don't know. I don't have the extent of knowledge that God has, so I do not judge God, nor do I think anyone should. His ways are not our ways. We, sinful human beings with our hearts do not understand the things of God. Jesus told His disciples that He would tell them the mysteries of heaven, but that they were not spiritually mature enough to understand it. So Jesus did not.I understood what you said. But it didn't answer my question.
Do you believe that for God to be good, He must be fair in trying to save everyone equally?
Was the crucifixion of Christ ordained by God?For mankind with their sinful heart, yes it is according to the 10 Commandments.
So now, why do you not tell me what you believe. It will be interesting to hear a Calvinists perspective.I understood what you said. But it didn't answer my question.
Do you believe that for God to be good, He must be fair in trying to save everyone equally?
So you don't know, but you're sure Calvinism is wrong. How does that work?I don't know. I don't have the extent of knowledge that God has, so I do not judge God, nor do I think anyone should. His ways are not our ways. We, sinful human beings with our hearts do not understand the things of God. Jesus told His disciples that He would tell them the mysteries of heaven, but that they were not spiritually mature enough to understand it. So Jesus did not.
I think it's something like that. God has an enormous perfect, just, plan. I do not know all that God knows, however I do know and trust all that God says in His Word.
If that is not a good enough answer to your question, that I do not judge God, nor will I ever judge God, then I have nothing to tell you.
Since God is under no obligation to save anyone, He is good to save whoever He pleases.So now, why do you not tell me what you believe. It will be interesting to hear a Calvinists perspective.
Well let's see here. I'll try to explain what I think.So you don't know, but you're sure Calvinism is wrong. How does that work?
I'm wondering if I should regret taking so much time to write up an explanation since you cannot obviously explain using scripture and reason what you think.Since God is under no obligation to save anyone, He is good to save whoever He pleases.
Did God predestine the Cross?I'm wondering if I should regret taking so much time to write up an explanation since you cannot obviously explain using scripture and reason what you think.
So, how can God ONLY give good things, yet have predestined evil? Is God not who He says He is?
It's hard to respond to this because you still aren't even sure what you believe except to say that Calvinism is wrong.Well let's see here. I'll try to explain what I think.
I think that since God is Omniscience that God is not held to time, as in the past, the present and the future. For God to be Omniscience He has to know all at the same time. God is not on earth and God is not held to time. Time was created for earth and the people on earth, to live in this reality. So since God knows all at the same time, I believe that the use of 'predestined' in the Bible may refer to God knowing all, His Omniscience. Since God cannot tell a lie, I think He needed some way to explain to us that He knows all at the same time which is how we got all the predestined text.
I do not believe that God interferes in people's lives except in extenuating circumstances or in those who choose to be His Children, being saved, changing ownership from evil being our master to God being our master. So I think His will is mostly done through His Children who choose God themselves.
Romans 8:27-28
27 And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. 28And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose.
I do not know if the Holy Spirit regenerates someone before they have faith/believe or if they believe/have faith and are then regenerated. But I tend to lean towards one believes and then one is regenerated.
I think what Calvinists view as God controlling what happens (ie predestination) is God telling us from His view how He is without time, Omniscience. I believe that we for the most part choose God and that God knows it will happen but does not interfere to cause it to happen.
Now you explain.
I think when God created Adam & Eve with free-will He as a loving Father also created a plan for if Adam & Eve should choose to not listen to God's commands.Did God predestine the Cross?
I'll let you wonder and ponder.It's hard to respond to this because you still aren't even sure what you believe except to say that Calvinism is wrong.
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