How can RCs and Protestants reconcile

[christianmomof3]

It won't happen because they don't really care about one another or want to be one with one another. They just want to prove that they are right and the other is wrong.

Wouldn't it be nice if they would practice loving one another?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

You don't like that born-again doctrinal requirement do you? You think a persons love is good enough, but GOD says different,....


Love manifested itself in form of GOD's Son, nothing more, and unless you become born again yourself, you personal love delusion will not be enough in the end.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and booths/eskhnwsen <4637> (5656) in US, and we esteem the glory of Him, glory as an Only-begotten beside Father, full of Grace and Truth.

Revelation 21:3 and I hear a Voice, great, out of the heaven, saying, `Behold!, the booth/skhnh <4633> of the God with the men, and He shall be boothing/skhnwsei <4637> (5692) with Them, and they, peoples of Him shall be, and He, the God is with them

 

[Nadiine]

I'm not referring to all religion, we're talking about Christianity here.

So am I - there are plenty of people who think JW's or Mormons (or both)
ARE Christian... same with other unorthodox people who claim
Jesus Christ & preach a different message.

This is my point - some here view Catholics as the false due to some
portions of unbiblical dogma.
Just lke you might view the other 2 as nonChristian.

This is the problem going on here & why I don't believe JohnDeere is
being bigoted - if so, then we're ALL bigots for not including others
we deem nonChristian in their unorthodoxies.

I hope that makes better sense.

 

[racer]

I prefer this hat:

Well, who would have ever guessed that?

 

[katholikos]

...Idolatry is when we do not acknowledge or Worship God and replace him with other gods or idols. It's a very sticky subject, and I don't think "we" are in a position to judge....

Thats a very good statement

 

[ARBITER01]

And yet ANOTHER common false understanding.

Mankind are GODS OFFSPRING...clearly taught by Paul (and the RCC I might add) in Acts 17:23-29.

ALSO, all of ISRAEL (whom we KNOW were not ALL believers) were taught in the O.T. to be GODS CHILDREN...so NO, even in UNbelief they were certainly SLAVES of darkness but not CHILDREN of the DEVIL.

Children of the DEVIL are in fact AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE ENTITY CLASS than mankind but these are WITH and or UPON mankind presently=even as "THEY" are with YOU....if you 'do the math.'

All have sinned as a past tense action... ROMANS 3:23

All have SIN as a present tense condition... Romans 7:17-21, 1 John 1:8

All who DO SIN are OF THE DEVIL... 1 John 3:8

So, yes, we all do have this connection. But this does by NO MEANS make mankind DEVILS.

enjoy!

squint

Sorry, ye must be born again.

Same exact thing Peter preached at Pentecost and other places after that, as well as Paul. The requirements are there for a reason, GOD established them.

Love will not buy you salvation.

 

[squint]

You don't like that born-again doctrinal requirement do you? You think a persons love is good enough, but GOD says different,....

God only 'sees' differently as YOU think you see God sees.

How you and I will read John 3 and the account of Nicodemus will vary DRAMATICALLY.

Love manifested itself in form of GOD's Son, nothing more,

The nothing more is again only of your own making as you are led to see. Gods love LIVES in the hearts of MANKIND and GOD IS LOVE.

1 John 4:16
And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.

1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

and unless you become born again yourself, you personal love delusion will not be enough in the end.

And you can try to DIVIDE God from Love anyway you are led to. And you can try to FORMULIZE LOVE anyway you are led to and to also IMPOSE that view upon others. I see such efforts no differently than those who try to divide the SON from THE FATHER. It doesn't work and you won't win.

Love never fails.

enjoy!

squint

 

[racer]

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The (or at least, "a") problem with that is that we already do that, and it doesn't seemed to have effectively reconciled... at least in the extremely limited microcosm that is CF:GT.

Um, how do you figure we "already do that?"

 

[racer]

Thats a very good statement

Thank you!

 

[Markus6]

First of all, that's a passage, not a verse.

Second, they will say that they believe that passage but they will say that they are born again at baptism, not what the Bible teaches about being born again.

What does the Bible teach about being born again? I guess you're refering to a different passage?

 

[racer]

Well, you see, we don't just toss the bible out the window. We are let the words of Christ dwell richly within us, and to be conformed to the image of HIS Son. Hard to do that when we don't have those 4 accounts to work with besides prayer, ya know?

It would be nice to just let everyone play on the play ground, but Christ brought a sword for a reason, and that sword will eventually separate the tares from the wheat and the goats from the sheep.

And, I am missing your point . . . .

 

[simonthezealot]

I like the puritan approach to keeping it civil...Find it in scripture or lose it...

 

[ARBITER01]

God only 'sees' differently as YOU think you see God sees.

How you and I will read John 3 and the account of Nicodemus will vary DRAMATICALLY.



The nothing more is again only of your own making as you are led to see. Gods love LIVES in the hearts of MANKIND and GOD IS LOVE.

1 John 4:16
And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.

1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.



And you can try to DIVIDE God from Love anyway you are led to. And you can try to FORMULIZE LOVE anyway you are led to and to also IMPOSE that view upon others. I see such efforts no differently than those who try to divide the SON from THE FATHER. It doesn't work and you won't win.

Love never fails.

enjoy!

squint

Oh GOD is love, but until you have your spirit renewed by the blood of Jesus and have HIS Holy Spirit place within you, you don't have GOD's love no matter how much you want folks to think you do.

The requirements are there by GOD, not anyone of us. I had to be born again just like anyone before me. There are no favorites with GOD in HIS salvation.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=69&chapter=4&verse=16&version=31&context=verse

1 John 4:16
And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=69&chapter=4&verse=16&version=31&context=versehttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=69&chapter=4&verse=16&version=31&context=versehttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=69&chapter=4&verse=16&version=31&context=verse

1 John 2:11 The-one yet hating his brother, in the darkness is, and in the darkness is about-walking, and not he has perceived whither he is going, that the darkness hath-blinded the eyes of him

Reve 16:10 And the fifth one pours out the bowl of him on the throne of the wild-beast, and became the Kingdom of it having been Darkened and they gnawed the tongues of them out of the misery.

 

[squint]

So am I - there are plenty of people who think JW's or Mormons (or both)
ARE Christian... same with other unorthodox people who claim
Jesus Christ & preach a different message.

A couple of things are certain. All of those people are our neighbors and as such we are STILL to love them.

And their impositions are really not much different than any other groups impositions, NONE of which really have a WHIT TO DO about LOVE.

This is my point - some here view Catholics as the false due to some
portions of unbiblical dogma.
Just lke you might view the other 2 as nonChristian.

Positions, impositions and the like are NOT the same as the PEOPLE who carry them. People who kill other people in the name of their various impositions of God are NOT justified in doing that.

This is the problem going on here & why I don't believe JohnDeere is
being bigoted - if so, then we're ALL bigots for not including others
we deem nonChristian in their unorthodoxies.

JohnDeere sets up his determinations to theirs and says his are totally right and theirs totally wrong which is preposterous nonsense that shouldn't be tolerated for a minute. I'd expect if he keeps it up he will be taking an imposed posting break for awhile, or I would HOPE.

enjoy!

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[ARBITER01]

And, I am missing your point . . . .

Maybe so. You were describing this utopia that could be with denominations and such but it would require a toss out of theology, which ultimately would require us to throw out our bibles also to do such a thing.

 

[sunlover1]

So am I - there are plenty of people who think JW's or Mormons (or both)
ARE Christian... same with other unorthodox people who claim
Jesus Christ & preach a different message.

This is my point - some here view Catholics as the false due to some
portions of unbiblical dogma.
Just lke you might view the other 2 as nonChristian.

This is the problem going on here & why I don't believe JohnDeere is
being bigoted - if so, then we're ALL bigots for not including others
we deem nonChristian in their unorthodoxies.

I hope that makes better sense.

It does.

Sorry, ye must be born again.

Same exact thing Peter preached at Pentecost and other places after that, as well as Paul. The requirements are there for a reason, GOD established them.

Love will not buy you salvation.

Love is of God, and everyone who loves IS born of God,
but he may not realise it works the opposite too.
You dont have the love of God Unless you ARE born of God.

I like the puritan approach to keeping it civil...Find it in scripture or lose it...

SS doesnt work here lol.
Looky us: Have stuff to tend to, but dont want to miss anything

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Nadiine So am I - there are plenty of people who think JW's or Mormons (or both)
ARE Christian... same with other unorthodox people who claim
Jesus Christ & preach a different message.

Good post

 

[sunlover1]

A couple of things are certain. All of those people are our neighbors and as such we are STILL to love them.

Which is why we should speak the 'truth' as we know it...
IN love.

 

[christianmomof3]

here's the correct hat for this thread