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Please enlighten me, what are the primary sources of Calvin's research?
Calvin's writings harbor no such arrogance, those who present his writings (less than accurately) harbor such arrogance.I won't begrudge another their experience. I can see what you're saying, for sure. I didn't see it then, but Calvinism does harbor a certain kind of arrogance. I'm at a different place, altogether, but support you on your journey.
Calvin's writings harbor no such arrogance, those who present his writings (less than accurately) harbor such arrogance.
The biggest thing in my mind about Calvinism is God's absolute unwavering sovereignty. Which I am slowly coming around to accepting. If God is not completely Sovereign over all His creation, then how can we call Him God?
It's been a while, don't remember the "harshness."Clare, have you read Calvin? Both Luther and Calvin are about as harsh and unforgiving as one could want. Calvin's rhetoric is over the top, besides the fact that for Calvin anyone associated with the RCC is by default anti-Christ. Maybe we need to define arrogance?
ETA: If you're not familiar with the harsh rhetoric of the Reformers, there's a Luther Insult Generator online that makes it clear. I can't post it here because I'm already hanging by a thread, but it's bad. Calvin was no different.
It's been a while, don't remember the "harshness."
The question is: was he contra-Biblical in any way?
If not, I would not have found him "harsh."
Bood III on the grace of Christ was magnificent!
Ok, I am aware of the attitude toward the Catholic Church of that time.Here's an example of the arrogance I have in mind.
*Fair warning and disqualifier* I am only quoting this to make a point about his rhetoric. It does not reflect my own sentiments.
"Daniel foretold that Antichrist would sit in the Temple of God. With us, it is the Roman pontiff we make the leader and standard bearer of that wicked and abominable kingdom..." (ICR IV.III.12). It goes on. That kind of rhetoric and slandering of other Christians is reprehensible and the height of arrogance, imo.
God choosing to give to man free will does not negate His sovereignty since it was His decision and His plan. Free will is absolutely necessary in order for love to be genuine and of any value. What value can love have if it isn’t freely given?
Ok, I am aware of the attitude toward the Catholic Church of that time.
Are you aware of the egregious and gross abuses to the holy gospel of God at that time?
If ever anything called for retribution, it could certainly be those authoritarial abuses to God's holy word.
Genesis 25:23 And the Lord said to her, There are two nations in thy womb, and two peoples shall be separated from thy belly, and one people shall excel the other, and the elder shall serve the younger.
Isaiah 44:1 But now hear, Jacob My servant, and Israel, whom I have chosen. 2 Thus saith the Lord God that made thee, and He that formed thee from the womb: Thou shalt yet be helped: fear not, My servant Jacob, and beloved Israel, whom I have chosen.
Jacob was chosen before he was born.
He was not chosen because he was 'good' in fact this point is emphasised.
Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before My Father, and before his angels.
If a name needs to be blotted out, then it must have been written there, to begin with. I think that means the person was chosen... but now he's not.
The name didn't need to be blotted out - that is the whole point.
God makes sure the elect are kept from falling.
The indwelling Holy Spirit keeps them from falling away as promised.
Jude 24,25 NKJV
24 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy, 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen.
Can Jude really promise this? or is this just a closing prayer for the reader.
Where does Jude 1:24-25 say the Holy Spirit?
Are you questioning whether the elect are indwelled by the Holy Spirit ???
Jer 32:40 is a promise that Jude would have been well aware of.
Nope. But what does that verse have to do with Jude's statement?
Jeremiah 32:40 is about Judah/Jerusalem at the time of the Babylonian captivity... and her scattering... and her being brought back... but it is still future tense.
Here it is in context, (from the Septuagint, so the numbers are different)
Jeremias 39:36 And now thus has the Lord God of Israel said concerning this city, of which thou sayest, it shall be delivered into the hands of the king of Babylon by the sword and by famine and banishment.[37] Behold, I will gather them out of every land, where I have scattered them in My anger and My wrath and great fury; and I will bring them back into this place, and will cause them to dwell safely:[38] and they shall be to me a people, and I will be to them a god.[39] And I will give them another way and another heart, to fear Me continually, and that for good to them and their children after them.[40] And I will make with them an Everlasting Covenant, which I will by no means turn away from them, and I will put My fear into their heart, that they may not depart from Me.[41] And I will visit them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land in faithfulness and with all My heart and with all My soul.[42] For thus saith the Lord; As I have brought upon this people all these great evils, so will I bring upon them all the good things which I pronounced upon them.[43] And there shall yet be fields bought in the land, of which thou sayest, it shall be destitute of man and beast; and they are delivered into the hands of the Chaldeans.LXX
Nope. But what does that verse have to do with Jude's statement?
Jeremiah 32:40 is about Judah/Jerusalem at the time of the Babylonian captivity... and her scattering... and her being brought back... but it is still future tense.
Here it is in context, (from the Septuagint, so the numbers are different)
Jeremias 39:36 And now thus has the Lord God of Israel said concerning this city, of which thou sayest, it shall be delivered into the hands of the king of Babylon by the sword and by famine and banishment.[37] Behold, I will gather them out of every land, where I have scattered them in My anger and My wrath and great fury; and I will bring them back into this place, and will cause them to dwell safely:[38] and they shall be to me a people, and I will be to them a god.[39] And I will give them another way and another heart, to fear Me continually, and that for good to them and their children after them.[40] And I will make with them an Everlasting Covenant, which I will by no means turn away from them, and I will put My fear into their heart, that they may not depart from Me.[41] And I will visit them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land in faithfulness and with all My heart and with all My soul.[42] For thus saith the Lord; As I have brought upon this people all these great evils, so will I bring upon them all the good things which I pronounced upon them.[43] And there shall yet be fields bought in the land, of which thou sayest, it shall be destitute of man and beast; and they are delivered into the hands of the Chaldeans.LXX
Are you suggesting the the New Covenant promised through Jeremiah which would be characterised by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit in believers is yet to come?
If so how do you account for the Holy Spirit indwelling all believers after the Cross?
John 14
16 I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; 17 that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
What was done for Isaac... was done for the sake of Abraham...
Genesis 2:24 And the Lord appeared to him in that night and said, I am the God of Abraam thy father; fear not, for I am with thee, and I will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for the sake of Abraam thy father.
... as Solomon's kingdom was spared for a time, because of David.
I think it's safe to assume the same holds true for Jacob and Joseph.
Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before My Father, and before his angels.
exaleipho = from ek and aleipho; to smear out, i.e. obliterate (erase tears, figuratively, pardon sin):--blot out, wipe away.
Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
If they didn't overcome, the Father would certainly not leave their names in the Lamb's Book of Life... because sin would have control of them. And He won't be wiping away their tears, either.
Though there are 14 appellations in the NT for the one and only gospel of Jesus Christ, there is only one gospel of Jesus Christ, and any additions, subtractions, differentiations, divisions, separations, etc. to or of it makes it another gospel which is anathema. (Galatians 1:6-9)The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel understand this Gospel of the Kingdom.
Can Jude really promise this? or is this just a closing prayer for the reader.
Where does Jude 1:24-25 say the Holy Spirit?
Iesus Commandments will obviously keep one from falling... but only if they actually DO His Commandments. (Matthew 7:24-27) Otherwise... great was the fall of it.
I'm only saying that this verse you gave from Jeremias only applies to redeemed Judah.
Though there are 14 appellations in the NT for the one and only gospel of Jesus Christ, there is only one gospel of Jesus Christ, and any differentiations, divisions, separations, etc. of it makes it another gospel which is anathema. (Galatians 1:6-9)
I don't know anything about a spirit of fear.
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