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That doesn't make it relative to me. I can't wrap my head around Paul's mysteries. Tried to for years, and it didn't take. So I don't read his mail, or his biography.
You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
 
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That doesn't make it relative to me. I can't wrap my head around Paul's mysteries. Tried to for years, and it didn't take. So I don't read his mail, or his biography.[...] Galatians 1:16 = The mailman brings you a letter addressed to Joe. Your name is Frank. Do you keep it and read it? Or give it back to the mailman?

You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)

Luke's letters to Theophilus... waaay different audience... ...and mission-field.


:cool: Matthew 10:40, John 15:20.
__ (John 13:1 to John 18:1 is the Passover Sermon)
__ (Matthew 10:1 to Matthew 11:1 ... Matthew 10:5-7 = recipient--> me.)
 
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That doesn't make it relative to me. I can't wrap my head around Paul's mysteries. Tried to for years, and it didn't take. So I don't read his mail, or his biography.
You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
 
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Luke's letters to Theophilus... waaay different audience... ...and mission-field.


:cool: Matthew 10:40, John 15:20.
__ (John 13:1 to John 18:1 is the Passover Sermon)
__ (Matthew 10:1 to Matthew 11:1 ... Matthew 10:5-7 = recipient--> me.)

You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Galatians 1:16 = recipient--> you.

Matthew 10:5-7 = recipient--> me.
 
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That doesn't make it relative to me. I can't wrap my head around Paul's mysteries. Tried to for years, and it didn't take. So I don't read his mail, or his biography.
You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
 
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(Luke 10:16)
(Thanks for making me do the research on Luke 10)

"At the beginning of the printed version of the Book of Acts and in The Prologue, the Seventy Apostles are identified in a listing ascribed to the holy hieromartyr Dorotheus, Bishop of Tyre. However, some of the men mentioned in the roll, while apostles at first, later fell from the faith and the dignity of their office.
Such were Nicholas, the proselyte of Antioch (one of the seven deacons, who apostatized with Simon Magus); Phygellus; Hermogenes; and Demus, about whom Saint Paul writes to Timothy ... Later, Demus became a heathen priest in Thessalonica."
Synaxis of the Sevent Apostles - The Great Collection of St. Demetrius of Rostov

Nicolaitans are said to've come from the apostate Nicholas of Antioch.
(Revelation 2:1-6, Revelation 2:15)
 
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(Thanks for making me do the research on Luke 10)

"At the beginning of the printed version of the Book of Acts and in The Prologue, the Seventy Apostles are identified in a listing ascribed to the holy hieromartyr Dorotheus, Bishop of Tyre.
Not in my Bible. . .
 
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(Thanks for making me do the research on Luke 10)

"At the beginning of the printed version of the Book of Acts and in The Prologue, the Seventy Apostles are identified in a listing ascribed to the holy hieromartyr Dorotheus, Bishop of Tyre. However, some of the men mentioned in the roll, while apostles at first, later fell from the faith and the dignity of their office.
Such were Nicholas, the proselyte of Antioch (one of the seven deacons, who apostatized with Simon Magus); Phygellus; Hermogenes; and Demus, about whom Saint Paul writes to Timothy ... Later, Demus became a heathen priest in Thessalonica."
Synaxis of the Sevent Apostles - The Great Collection of St. Demetrius of Rostov

Nicolaitans are said to've come from the apostate Nicholas of Antioch.
(Revelation 2:1-6, Revelation 2:15)
You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
 
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You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
Luke 1:3
Romans 11:13

I got five pieces of mail today. One letter was addressed to Theophilus and one was a letter to the Gentiles. I gave these two letters back to the mailman.

I kept the three letters addressed to the circumcision.
 
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That doesn't make it relative to me. I can't wrap my head around Paul's mysteries. Tried to for years, and it didn't take. So I don't read his mail, or his biography.
You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
 
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You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?


John 4:43-45 Now after two days He departed thence, and went into Galilee.[44] For Iesus Himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in His own country.(Samaria)[45] Then when he was come into Galilee, the Galilaeans received Him, having seen all the things that He did at Jerusalem at the feast: for they also went unto the feast.

(See Ruth, Levirite Marriage, Jesse. Samaria is Ephraim's lot.)

Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(Jerusalem is Benjamin's lot.)

The Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, preached by Iesus

Isaiah 52:3-7 For thus saith the Lord, Ye have been sold for nought; and ye shall not be ransomed with silver.[4] Thus saith the Lord, My people went down before to Egypt to sojourn there; and were carried away forcibly to the Assyrians. 5 And now why are ye here? Thus saith the Lord, Because My people was taken for nothing, wonder ye and howl. Thus saith the Lord, On account of you My name is continually blasphemed among the nations.[6] Therefore shall My people know My name in that day, for I am He that speaks: I am present,[7] as a season of beauty upon the mountains, as the feet of one preaching glad tidings of peace, as one preaching good news: for I will publish thy salvation, saying, O Sion, thy God shall reign.LXX

That's the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven in so many words, being preached to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel... because only the 10-northern-tribes of the divided kingdom of Solomon (called the "house of Israel" by Hosea 1:6-10) were taken by Assyria. (John 12:49-50)

And this is the same Gospel, to the same people:

Isaiah 61:1-3 The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, because He has anointed Me; He has sent Me to preach glad tidings to the poor, to heal the broken in heart, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and recovery of sight to the blind;[2] to declare the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of recompence; to comfort all that mourn;[3] that there should be given to them that mourn in Sion glory instead of ashes, the oil of joy to the mourners, the garment of glory for the spirit of heaviness: and they shall be called generations of righteousness, the planting of the Lord for glory.LXX

Matthew 11:5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the Gospel preached to them.

Matthew 4:12-17 Now when Iesus had heard that John was cast into prison, He departed into Galilee; [13] And leaving Nazareth, He came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim:[14] That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,[15] The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the nations;[16] The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.[17] From that time Iesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

John 9:39-41 And Iesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.[40] And some of the Pharisees which were with Him heard these words, and said unto Him, Are we blind also?[41] Iesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

Matthew 10:1-7 And when He had called unto Him His Twelve Disciples, He gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.[2] Now the names of the Twelve Apostles are these: The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;[3] Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;[4] Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.[5] These Twelve Iesus sent forth and Commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:[6] But go rather to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel.[7] And as ye go, preach, saying, The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
 
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That doesn't make it relative to me. I can't wrap my head around Paul's mysteries. Tried to for years, and it didn't take. So I don't read his mail, or his biography.
You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
 
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John 4:43-45 Now after two days He departed thence, and went into Galilee.[44] For Iesus Himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in His own country.(Samaria)[45] Then when he was come into Galilee, the Galilaeans received Him, having seen all the things that He did at Jerusalem at the feast: for they also went unto the feast.

(See Ruth, Levirite Marriage, Jesse. Samaria is Ephraim's lot.)

Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(Jerusalem is Benjamin's lot.)

The Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, preached by Iesus

Isaiah 52:3-7 For thus saith the Lord, Ye have been sold for nought; and ye shall not be ransomed with silver.[4] Thus saith the Lord, My people went down before to Egypt to sojourn there; and were carried away forcibly to the Assyrians. 5 And now why are ye here? Thus saith the Lord, Because My people was taken for nothing, wonder ye and howl. Thus saith the Lord, On account of you My name is continually blasphemed among the nations.[6] Therefore shall My people know My name in that day, for I am He that speaks: I am present,[7] as a season of beauty upon the mountains, as the feet of one preaching glad tidings of peace, as one preaching good news: for I will publish thy salvation, saying, O Sion, thy God shall reign.LXX

That's the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven in so many words, being preached to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel... because only the 10-northern-tribes of the divided kingdom of Solomon (called the "house of Israel" by Hosea 1:6-10) were taken by Assyria. (John 12:49-50)

And this is the same Gospel, to the same people:

Isaiah 61:1-3 The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, because He has anointed Me; He has sent Me to preach glad tidings to the poor, to heal the broken in heart, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and recovery of sight to the blind;[2] to declare the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of recompence; to comfort all that mourn;[3] that there should be given to them that mourn in Sion glory instead of ashes, the oil of joy to the mourners, the garment of glory for the spirit of heaviness: and they shall be called generations of righteousness, the planting of the Lord for glory.LXX

Matthew 11:5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the Gospel preached to them.

Matthew 4:12-17 Now when Iesus had heard that John was cast into prison, He departed into Galilee; [13] And leaving Nazareth, He came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim:[14] That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,[15] The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the nations;[16] The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.[17] From that time Iesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

John 9:39-41 And Iesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.[40] And some of the Pharisees which were with Him heard these words, and said unto Him, Are we blind also?[41] Iesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

Matthew 10:1-7 And when He had called unto Him His Twelve Disciples, He gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.[2] Now the names of the Twelve Apostles are these: The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;[3] Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;[4] Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.[5] These Twelve Iesus sent forth and Commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:[6] But go rather to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel.[7] And as ye go, preach, saying, The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

Do you keep Iesus' commandents?

You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)

Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.[12] For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
didasko = a prolonged (causative) form of a primary verb dao (to learn); to teach (in the same broad application):--teach.

Romans 15:8

Matthew 13:10-11 And the Disciples came, and said unto Him, Why speakest Thou unto them in parables?[11] He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given.
mathetes = from manthano; a learner, i.e. pupil:--disciple.
 
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That doesn't make it relative to me. I can't wrap my head around Paul's mysteries. Tried to for years, and it didn't take. So I don't read his mail, or his biography.
You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
 
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Do you keep Iesus' commandents?

You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.[12] For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
apokalupsis = from apokalupto; disclosure:--appearing, coming, lighten, manifestation, be revealed, revelation.
Strong's Greek: 602. ἀποκάλυψις (apokalupsis) -- 18 Occurrences

By the way that word is used, and by the people who used it...

2 Cor 12:1, 1 Cor 14:6, Php 3:15, 2 Th 1:7,
2 Cor 12:7, Rom 2:5, Gal 1:12, Eph 1:17,
Luk 2:32, Rom 8:19, Rom 16:25,
1 Cor 1:7, 1 Cor 14:26, Gal 2:2, Eph 3:3
1 Pe 1:7, 1 Pe 1:13, 1 Pe 4:13
Rev 1:1

... sometimes the word seems to mean prophecy.
 
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That doesn't make it relative to me. I can't wrap my head around Paul's mysteries. Tried to for years, and it didn't take. So I don't read his mail, or his biography.
You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
 
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You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)

Do you keep the Commandments of Iesus?
 
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That doesn't make it relative to me. I can't wrap my head around Paul's mysteries. Tried to for years, and it didn't take. So I don't read his mail, or his biography.
You reject the writings of the apostle Paul,
who received his gospel from Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12)?

Jesus told the apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me."
(Luke 10:16)
 
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