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How are we to explain these "miracles?"

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You mean the con-man that claimed to have angels speak to him and who said that it is blasphemous to speak about the father, the son and the holy spirit? He was against the trinity, you know.

But I'm sure you ignored that part. You just picked him because he kickstarted the whole faith-healing movement. That's the kind of opportunistic person you are... pick a few things that you feel support the point you are making at that particular time, and just ignore everything that contradicts your beliefs.

It's so pathetic.

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You need to do some research on William Branham. You are glazing the top only? There is only 4 years of thousands upon thousands of Supernatural events manifested and witnessed before citywide meetings.

And you skimmed to reply the above info? And follow with erroneous statements?

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You need to do some research on William Branham. You are glazing the top only? There is only 4 years of thousands upon thousands of Supernatural manifested and witnessed before citywide meetings.

And you skimmed to reply the above info? And follow with erroneous statements?

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You have no idea about what research I did or didn't do. As always you just assume things.

I know the dude. I know who he is, I know what he did and I know what a con-man he was. I also know that he opposed the whole trinity idea. Apparantly, his angels weren't around either when a drunk ran him over. I guess he couldn't faith-heal himself back to health either.
 
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You have no idea about what research I did or didn't do. As always you just assume things.

I know the dude. I know who he is, I know what he did and I know what a con-man he was. I also know that he opposed the whole trinity idea. Apparantly, his angels weren't around either when a drunk ran him over. I guess he couldn't faith-heal himself back to health either.

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It will take time to get to the original statements of the witnesses and Branham own words. Then time to digest, sort through. If you make hasty conclusions over little information then you may pretend to "know".

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It will take time to get to the original statements of the witnesses and Branham own words. Then time to digest, sort through. If you make hasty conclusions over little information then you may pretend to "know".

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There you go and assume things again.
This time, you're assuming that I didn't know about the dude before you mentioned him.

Also, it's kind of hilarious you said this: "If you make hasty conclusions over little information then you may pretend to "know"."

Perhaps you should apply those wise words to your own "knowledge" of biology.
 
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I know the dude. I know who he is, I know what he did and I know what a con-man he was. I also know that he opposed the whole trinity idea. Apparantly, his angels weren't around either when a drunk ran him over. I guess he couldn't faith-heal himself back to health either.

That was what I had to wonder about too. How many prayers he must have received. Only to die on Christmas Eve.
 
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1. The child did not have a shirt on, only a diaper.

2. I took the child from the mother, after requesting if I could hold the child.

3. I held the little arm. Then cupped it in my hand.

Enough from you doubters? No, because doubt has your heart. He is not going anywhere until you repent and request Grace from Him.

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And yet, we still don't accept you as a miracle worker. Infuriating, isn't it?
 
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1. The child did not have a shirt on, only a diaper.

2. I took the child from the mother, after requesting if I could hold the child.

3. I held the little arm. Then cupped it in my hand.

Enough from you doubters? No, because doubt has your heart. He is not going anywhere until you repent and request Grace from Him.

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Why would she be carting the kid around with no clothes on? Your story is getting weirder. Also, your answer to #3 has nothing to do with my third question.
 
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So, we have repeated replies from a few doubt filled posters:

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It is evident they are opposed to Miracles. That is their privilege on CF. But their replies have no new or useful importance, just doubt (there is no Supernatural) and whitewash (color over the truth with erroneous statements like it was ones imagination, bias confirmation, or a con). Nothing new is going to come about from Team Doubt & Whitewash!

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So, we have repeated replies from a few doubt filled posters:

Lord Emsworth
DogmaHunter
TLK
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Psychosarah

It is evident they are opposed to Miracles. That is their privilege on CF. But their replies have no new or useful importance, just doubt (there is no Supernatural) and whitewash (color over the truth with erroneous statements like it was ones imagination, bias confirmation, or a con). Nothing new is going to come about from Team Doubt & Whitewash!

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Opposed to? No. Blindly accepting of everyone who claims to work miracles? Also no.
 
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It is evident they are opposed to Miracles.

Mhmm-mhmmm.

I've experienced them 1st hand. It is just not the kind of miracle you like. In fact, you've done little else on this forum than dis their underpinning.
 
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It should be known that each Miracle event I presented was part of a "move of God" that each spanned 5 or more years, where the encounter with God was an ongoing process. Many signs and wonders occurred during the period the Most High was orchestrating a work among many.

Unbelievers do not know God, know the ways of God, and the times He moves among us, even times and seasons of recovering and revealing. They are use to church lasting a few hours a couple days a week.

In the case of William Branham, the time and seasons were a two prong move of God in His Body, the first initiated in a small Bible college in Canada in 1947 and the second part initiated through William in 1948. Many of those in the first stifled the move by 1952 and many around William, such as the Full Gospel Business Men's Fellowship, derailed the later move by 1957. The Church was shown again how men, even religious men, can move in and produce Nicolaitanism, man-kingdom building, greed and pride in place of love and humility. Similar to the Galatians, "Having begun by the Spirit are you now being perfected by the flesh" (Galatians 3:3). Moves of God often end with flesh-centered men taking over.

Miracles have no bounds but many are associated with moves of God, even those in a single persons life, occur over a period of time the Lord is doing a work, with purpose and Power.

Now tell us more about Con men and other lowly ways of living, the ways of those without understanding of His ways, and the Power of His Kingdom in our midst.

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It should be known that each Miracle event I presented was part of a "move of God" that each spanned 5 or more years, where the encounter with God was an ongoing process. Many signs and wonders occurred during the period the Most High was orchestrating a work among many.

Unbelievers do not know God, know the ways of God, and the times He moves among us, even times and seasons of recovering and revealing. They are use to church lasting a few hours a couple days a week.

In the case of William Branham, the time and seasons were a two prong move of God in His Body, the first initiated in a small Bible college in Canada in 1947 and the second part initiated through William in 1948. Many of those in the first stifled the move by 1952 and many around William, such as the Full Gospel Business Men's Fellowship, derailed the later move by 1957. The Church was shown again how men, even religious men, can move in and produce Nicolaitanism, man-kingdom building, greed and pride in place of love and humility. Similar to the Galatians, "Having begun by the Spirit are you now being perfected by the flesh" (Galatians 3:3). Moves of God often end with flesh-centered men taking over.

Miracles have no bounds but many are associated with moves of God, even those in a single persons life, occur over a period of time the Lord is doing a work, with purpose and Power.

Now tell us more about Con men and other lowly ways of living, the ways of those without understanding of His ways, and the Power of His Kingdom in our midst.

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You just did.
 
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1. The child did not have a shirt on, only a diaper.

2. I took the child from the mother, after requesting if I could hold the child.

3. I held the little arm. Then cupped it in my hand.

Enough from you doubters? No, because doubt has your heart. He is not going anywhere until you repent and request Grace from Him.

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If you performed said miracle, surely you could do it again.
 
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Why pay someone to investigate miracles? Why, to see if any are valid, it would be huge if an actual miracle happened and was verified.

This is where your logic breaks down. There are miracles that happen, every year, at the same place, at the same time.

For those that wish to "prove" it with money? May their money perish with them.
 
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What sort of miracles have you seen?

Just the ordinary, everyday stuff that we meanwhile take for granted, apparantly. And compared to which Branham, Lourdes et al are, frankly, just pathetic.
 
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This is where your logic breaks down. There are miracles that happen, every year, at the same place, at the same time.

For those that wish to "prove" it with money? May their money perish with them.

Fun fact, often it is churches who pay them.
 
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