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Evil exists in the world.
Evil men reject God and separate themselves from Him. Evil people do evil things. God WILL intervene in time, casting the evil people into Hell. Until then He offers salvation for those who will accept it.[/COLOR]
Evil exists in the world.
Evil men reject God and separate themselves from Him. Evil people do evil things. God WILL intervene in time, casting the evil people into Hell. Until then He offers salvation for those who will accept it.[/COLOR]
.People get blown up in a church? God just didn't feel like helping people that day.
People get saved from being blown up in a church? God loves his children and protects them.
Reminds me of the game, "Heads I win, tails you lose."
Your post reminded me of this:
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. ~ Steven Weinberg
[serious];65322553 said:So, why would God want to blow up the building? Seems like a simpler way to go about it would be to just miraculously shut off the gas.
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Lol. Are you trying to comprehend what you cannot mortally understand, best you try? Go for it, and display your ignorance.
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Well, not quite, Sofaman. It look like you misunderstand. Spiritual maturity and growth is "if God permits" and not through leaning on ones own understanding to comprehend the Spiritual World and Truth. Have you heard He is Holy? Have you heard who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? Of course some uninformed make the gate wide, in ignorance.
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I´m wondering why god - instead of taking care that every single member was delayed for some reason - didn´t simply take care that the heating worked correctly (and/or the pastor handled it correctly). That way he would also have saved the church, btw.
Plus: all of 15 people delayed for 5 minutes? The chance for that is not so very low.
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It depends on the meeting. Monday morning sales meetings are notorious for tardiness. Without knowing the exact frequency each and every person was late plotting the precise probability is unknowable, but given even if the figures are off by 20% it's still a high number. There was no indication in the story that any of the people involved were prone to tardiness.
Snopes said:Herbert Kipf, lathe operator, would have been ahead of time but had put off an important letter. "I can't think why," he said. He lingered over it and was late.
It was a cold evening. Stenographer Joyce Black, feeling "just plain lazy," stayed in her warm house until the last possible moment. She was almost ready to leave when it happened.
Because his wife was away, Machinist Harvey Ahl was taking care of his two boys. He was going to take them to practice with him but somehow he got wound up talking. When he looked at his watch, he saw he was already late.
Marilyn Paul, the pianist, had planned to arrive half an hour early. However she fell asleep after dinner, and when her mother awakened her at 7:15 she had time only to tidy up and start out.
Mrs. F.E. Paul, choir director and mother of the pianist, was late simply because her daughter was. She had tried unsuccessfully to awaken the girl earlier.
High school girls Lucille Jones and Dorothy Wood are neighbors and customarily go to practice together. Lucille was listening to a 7-to-7:30 radio program and broke her habit of promptness because she wanted to hear the end. Dorothy waited for her.
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Interesting. You have no apprehension of God, no walk of learning from Him through the Revelations He gives to teach and instruct us through His Holy Spirit - yet you proclaim you are an expert in matters about the Spiritual Realm and its Spiritual Dynamics, and you tell us God makes no sence. Did I ask for your feeble lack of maturity help? You do not know Him and have not passed even the starting line. But you want us to hear your confusion and lack of Spiritual Understanding.
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[serious];65325958 said:So anything good that happens is evidence of a benevolent god, anything bad that happens is a mystery?
I've got a coin that only lands on heads, though sometimes how it lands is a mystery...
No, it's called a miracle when God intervenes and overrides the laws of probability and natural law. The sheer unlikliness of the event indicates divine intervention, but no, such an event is not precluded by natural law the way turning water into win is.
How can I have apprehension of a being that no one can show to exist?
Why don't you demonstrate that God exists before accusing others of not being able to apprehend God.
Were the people in that church too evil for God to save?Evil exists in the world.
Evil men reject God and separate themselves from Him. Evil people do evil things. God WILL intervene in time, casting the evil people into Hell. Until then He offers salvation for those who will accept it.[/COLOR]
So every time an unlikely event occurs and your personal threshold for credulity is reached, you consider it to be miraculous?
Were the people in that church too evil for God to save?
Why does God kill people that show up for church on time and spare the ones that are late?
Why does God blow up churches?
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You are confused, just a bit. How things happen, why they happen, and when they happen are beyond you.
When you try to reason how God could be involved you show confusion. No apprehension of how He allows things, particularly about "blow up churches". It's like you leverage these types of events to demonstrate He is not. How can He be.
A wild and crazy world. I've been there, and in due course had to profess such before Him. A period of time of my life before Him.
But if you really do not want to know why things happen then just keep on spreading confusion and wildness. It's your situation in this present life.
As far as Grace and Power from on High you know not of nor experience it's work in your life, even before others.
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It is simple, mate.
Its existence has already been demonstrated to me, even to an educated Naturalists.
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