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How Answers in Genesis lies to their audience

Jonathan Walkerin

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Were the Romans flesh? Or spirit? (in this context)

Flesh I believe.. it is 82 second long video that totally encompasses your disdain for scientists versus faith of the righteus.
 
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Flesh I believe.. it is 82 second long video that totally encompasses your disdain for scientists versus faith of the righteus.
What does the Bible say, what is written, about the flesh and everything that is born of the flesh ?
 
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What scientists do to make our life easier, longer more prosperous is a very nice luxury for us but not a need. We need food and shelter. We can provide those for ourselves without the help of a scientist.
 
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What scientists do to make our life easier, longer more prosperous is a very nice luxury for us but not a need. We need food and shelter. We can provide those for ourselves without the help of a scientist.
No, we can't. There are too many of us to be able to revert to a hunter/gatherer society living in caves.
 
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No, we can't. There are too many of us to be able to revert to a hunter/gatherer society living in caves.

Do you really think that we would revert to being hunter gatherers if not for the presence of scientists in our lives?
 
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Do you really think that we would revert to being hunter gatherers if not for the presence of scientists in our lives?
I don't think that woud be rverting... it would be a step forward "let Thy Will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.." , eliminating much sinfulness would be required first though, or as it develops....
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Do you really think that we would revert to being hunter gatherers if not for the presence of scientists in our lives?
Yes.

What is a scientist but one who attempts to understand reality with some ability to predict and verify the results. Imagine what the world would look like without an attempt to understand the world accurately.

Yes, absolutely, yes, humans would revert to be hunter-gatherers -- if they didn't just flat go extinct.
 
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This article was just published on Answers in Genesis, entitled Apes and Humans—Our Saliva Is Different.

This is the excerpt from that article about a scientific paper recently published regarding a study of primate salivia:



Reading the above, I was immediately led to belief that human saliva is somehow wholly unique to humans. After all, they claim that "each primate species they looked at had its own unique collection of salivary proteins" and that there was "no obvious connection!"

Wow! This must be such an amazing paper and contradiction to biological evolution if humans have such unique saliva with absolutely no connection to other primates! Surely this must be a major challenge to modern evolution, right? Right???

So I looked up the original paper and immediately saw this:



Human and Nonhuman Primate Lineage-Specific Footprints in the Salivary Proteome

Oh. Well, that was a giant let-down.

So much for Answer in Genesis's patently misleading claims. Maybe next time.

I used to read the occasional AIG article relating to geology. Time and Time again I would see half truths or just outright false information. As if the authors of the articles are intentionally dishonest. Creationists are an interesting group.
 
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Yes.

What is a scientist but one who attempts to understand reality with some ability to predict and verify the results. Imagine what the world would look like without an attempt to understand the world accurately.

Yes, absolutely, yes, humans would revert to be hunter-gatherers -- if they didn't just flat go extinct.
Don't dis hunter-gatherers. Their livelihood depended on collecting and evaluating information about the world they lived in.
 
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What scientists do to make our life easier, longer more prosperous is a very nice luxury for us but not a need. We need food and shelter. We can provide those for ourselves without the help of a scientist.

Sounds like a guy with warm house, car on the front , rifle on the wall and laptop on the table.

This would not be a starting point without scientists. Also one can not really envision what total lack of aforementioned things would mean unless you have been a member of the hunter-gatherer community without technology.

Some would survive no doubt, but most would die and those living would have a pretty nasty time of it as well.

As a species we have been there and done that. No need to romanticize it.
 
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And how did that come about ?

By a long, forwards and backwards stepwise process of the end of hunter gathering and the development of sedentism, supported by horticulture and agriculture and then progressing into other domains as demand and ingenuity warranted.

How long will it take to correct that ?

Well, it took humans maybe ~250,000 years to eventually work out they could domesticate plant/animals and probably ~10-15,000 years of trial and error before they started getting things really right. Then within ~20,000 years we'd become the dominant form of life on the planet.

If we want to go back to pre-sedentism, without a near close to species ending apocalypse, you'd probably have to wait about 150 to 200 years to get a population low enough to be sustained by the natural carrying capacity of the available land, given common net negative population growth rates seen in the last 30 years.
 
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The Bible says that false teachings are false. True teachings are true and in harmony with all Scripture. Jesus confirms. Yahuweh confirms and reveals to little children, and hides it from so-called scholars.
True teachings are true????

Why didn't you say so!

And how are such true teachings determined to be true?

Oh, right - they are in harmony with the stories written by ancient nomads in the middle east.

Brilliant!
 
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