Homosexuals: I'm calling you out!!! Prove to me...

[Wiccan_Child]

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1. Above are some of the passages that declare that GOD is perfect; that HE made man and woman heterosexual and designed marriage as a man and woman; and that homosexuality is an abomination which should result in being put to death! God is showing us here that HE hates homosexuality. The New Testament condemns homosexuality as well:

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Homosexuality is a vile SIN.

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According to this translation of the texts, yes. But I don't think I have to tell you that this is not the only translation.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]2. Homosexuals: I'm calling you out!!! Prove to me that HE did not raise up from the dead! Prove to me that HE did not die on the cross and did not rise from the dead. The ball is in your court now.
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1) If he existed, there would be evidence.
2) If he resurrected, there would be even more evidence.
3) There is exactly zero evidence for either of these events.
4) Therefore, neither of these events occured.

Disproof complete.

Notice that I'm fighting idiocy with more idiocy. His demand for us to disprove his claim is nonsense; you might as well demand a disproof of the claims of the Qu'ran, or the Vedic texts.

Idiocy.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]No one has ever been able to prove that HE did not rise from the dead.[/FONT]

Noone has been able to prove that he did rise, either. That onus is on you to evidence your claim, not on us to disprove your claim. Isn't it one of the ten commandments not to tell fibs?

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]So you must prove that JESUS CHRIST did not rise from the dead. If you do this, no Christian will ever bother you again. No Christian will be able to rebuke you for your vile sin of homosexuality; because you have destroyed Christianity.[/FONT]

Sweet.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Until then; you will be rebuked for your vile sin. You will be corrected and commanded to repent and turn your life to Christ.[/FONT]

And the Muslims will continue to command us to convert to Islam. And the Hindus will continue to demand us to convert to Hinduism. Funny, that.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]If you don't want to live with the shame and guilt of this wicked sin, then either Prove that HE did not rise from the dead; or realize that HE did and has the power to heal you and REPENT and come to HIM and let HIM wash you white as snow!!!!!!![/FONT]

Your logic does not resemble our Earth logic. Please call back, and try again when sanity has resumed.

 

[dlamberth]

All I know for sure is that God hates Fig Trees. For some strange reason Jesus kept killing them.

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[StarCannon]

1. Either JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD, or HE did not.

2. If HE did you now are 100% accountable for your vile sins. I am forcing the homosexuals and all their defenders to 'Man UP, or Shut up'!

There is some line of reasoning that describes taking the simpler of all theories, and I believe that jesus not existing is the simplest of them all.

So with that in mind, there is more proof suggest the lack of a certain deity. How? By the lack of proof suggesting he existed.

So, with this line of reasoning, we can readily assume that SoF is simply wrong in his assertions and should repent of chrisitianity and leave the homosexuals alone.

 

[stan1980]

Stephanie was evicted.
Not that I watch it, I just looked it up.

Thanks, Mel, I'm glad she went, didn't like her much. Watching big brother is nothing to be ashamed of though. I mean it may be lowest common denominator trash designed for the thick and stupid, but I like it! Once you're bored of real life human interaction, you're bored of life!

One thing though... That Thai girl who doesn't pronounce her L's... Do I need a sense of humour transplant or is it just not funny? I even heard some youngsters in the the corner of a pub yesterday afternoon laughing their heads off for way too long whilst doing impressions of her... hirarious, I think not.

 

[tbird_energizerbunny]

SoF....sorry it's taken so long for my response

You may not be intending to hate someone, but you are sending out messages of hate.

I would have quoted everyone, but it looks like you're shouting at me. Why are you shouting? If you're shouting because you're mad, then is that truly the Christian way to handle it?

And, what does the fact that the messiah did/didnt raise from the dead have to do with proving/disproving homosexuality? I'm sorry, your thinking is off.

SoF, it's great that you're passionate about something. But we are measured by the fruit we bear...do you see anyone giving you high fives in here? Don't you think that where many believers are urging you to seriously stop and think, should be enough for you to maybe even consider changing your thought? It's honestly wonderful that you're passionate, but is your passion bearing fruit? Is it winning anyone over to Christ? Our main goal in life is one, to Love God with all our heart, soul and mind, but that's not the only thing Jesus said was the greatest commandment, it's also to love our neighbor as ourself. What would you do if you were on a board and people were shouting at you, and making some, let's face it, weird weird weird "logics"? Put yourself in a homosexual's shoes, I know it's hard to do, wouldn't this [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth] you off if you thought God was okay with it?

Look at the fruits you have SoF, a lot of people are against you, angry at you, you're yelling at us in here. Is that good fruit? And how many people, I wonder, have you pushed away from the Gospel through your actions?

 

[ShieldOFaith]

1) If he existed, there would be evidence.
2) If he resurrected, there would be even more evidence.
3) There is exactly zero evidence for either of these events.
4) Therefore, neither of these events occured.

HE did exist, there is evidence and you are wrong. Now you must Repent or burn in the Lake of Fire for all eternity.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 1 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb. 2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. 5 The angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6 He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: 'He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.' Now I have told you." 8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me." [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 11 While the women were on their way, some of the guards went into the city and reported to the chief priests everything that had happened. 12 When the chief priests had met with the elders and devised a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money, 13 telling them, "You are to say, 'His disciples came during the night and stole him away while we were asleep.' 14 If this report gets to the governor, we will satisfy him and keep you out of trouble." 15 So the soldiers took the money and did as they were instructed. And this story has been widely circulated among the Jews to this very day. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." --Matt 28[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]All the evidence you need. It is not my bad that you don't believe it.
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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The disciples were eye witnesses of this awesome miracle. You just don't believe it. That is on you.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Do the research and you will see that the Word of GOD is true.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLA GRATIA.
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[ShieldOFaith]

There is some line of reasoning that describes taking the simpler of all theories, and I believe that jesus not existing is the simplest of them all.

So with that in mind, there is more proof suggest the lack of a certain deity. How? By the lack of proof suggesting he existed.

So, with this line of reasoning, we can readily assume that SoF is simply wrong in his assertions and should repent of chrisitianity and leave the homosexuals alone.

One of the weakest posts I've ever read.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 1 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb. 2 There was a violent earthquake, for an angel of the Lord came down from heaven and, going to the tomb, rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. 4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. 5 The angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. 6 He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: 'He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.' Now I have told you." 8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me." [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 11 While the women were on their way, some of the guards went into the city and reported to the chief priests everything that had happened. 12 When the chief priests had met with the elders and devised a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money, 13 telling them, "You are to say, 'His disciples came during the night and stole him away while we were asleep.' 14 If this report gets to the governor, we will satisfy him and keep you out of trouble." 15 So the soldiers took the money and did as they were instructed. And this story has been widely circulated among the Jews to this very day. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." --Matt 28[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The homosexuals need to Repent.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLA GRATIA.
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[dlamberth]

Now you must Repent or burn in the Lake of Fire for all eternity.

I see that you are making Godly judgement for God, yet again. Sheesh!!

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[Nathan Poe]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1. Above are some of the passages that declare that GOD is perfect; [/FONT]

The passages are wrong. Next question?

 

[Wiccan_Child]

HE did exist, there is evidence and you are wrong.

Where, pray tell, is this evidence? Simply claiming that there is evidence doesn't mean squat.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]All the evidence you need. It is not my bad that you don't believe it.[/FONT]

That is not evidence. If archaic religious texts constituted evidence of the claims therein, then you should simultaneously be a Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu, Christian, Wiccan, Jain, Shinto, and every other religion in between.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The disciples were eye witnesses of this awesome miracle. You just don't believe it. That is on you.[/FONT]

Not really: the onus is on your to justify the relevant texts are an accurate portrayal of reality. What makes you so sure they weren't high on hallucinogens, or that they were written retroactively, or that they haven't been grossly exagerrated over the years? Indeed, the NT myths surrounding Jesus contain telling echoes of pre-Christian Pagan myths, and it is well known that St. Paul suffered from epileptic hallucinations.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Do the research and you will see that the Word of GOD is true.[/FONT]

I could just as easily say the same to you: do the research, and you'll see the Bible is false.

The point is that the onus is on you to fully justify your claims. They're your claims, after all. This is a debate, not group therapy.

 

[Paconious]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The homosexuals need to Repent.[/FONT]

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The elephant, emperor penguin, and etc, how do they go about repenting their sinful ways? Does the rest of the natural world which displays homosexual behaivor also need to repent?

 

[StarCannon]

One of the weakest posts I've ever read.

Should I even care? Your religion is not exactly a based on any convincing arguments.

scripture et al.

Epic fail.

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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The homosexuals need to Repent.[/FONT]

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*yawn* No, SoF, they don't. The homosexuals should strive for equality under law and recognition as valid unions in society.

 

[mpok1519]

geeze pal give it a rest.

I'm pretty sure Jesus is just wanting you to get along with folks....hate evil, but not the evildoer....

 

[beckysoup61]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Prove to me that HE did not raise up from the dead! [/FONT]

About you prove it to us?

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Prove to me that HE did not die on the cross and did not rise from the dead. The ball is in your court now. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]
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Actually, it's still in yours with that faulty logic.
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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]No one has ever been able to prove that HE did not rise from the dead. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]
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And nobody has been able to prove that He did. And here is what I thought faith was all about. Guess faith isn't important in the long run.......

 

[oneofthem]

Hey, are you Fred Phelps?

 

[mpok1519]

Please; no. Let him not be Fred Phelps....please, no....

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Should I even care? Your religion is not exactly a based on any convincing arguments.



Epic fail.



*yawn* No, SoF, they don't. The homosexuals should strive for equality under law and recognition as valid unions in society.

Wrong and evil.

Homosexuals need to repent of their sins and knock it off. The left needs to stop this vile push against GOD and His Word.

If they don't...eternal flames....

 

[ReverendDG]

Wrong and evil.

prove it, put up or shut up

Homosexuals need to repent of their sins and knock it off. The left needs to stop this vile push against GOD and His Word.

i think you need to take your meds, you are losing it

If they don't...eternal flames....

oh please is that the best you have? weak threats of a hell that doesn't exist and is only found in your imagination?
sorry to tell you this, but no one is impressed

 

[StarCannon]

Wrong and evil.

Homosexuals need to repent of their sins and knock it off. The left needs to stop this vile push against GOD and His Word.

If they don't...eternal flames....

Yet another epic fail.

BTW:

Homosexuals need to campaign for their rights. They must do what women did in the 1920's -- demand acknowledgement. For only pushing of the Left does anyone have any protection in this world. Denying homosexuals respect and dignity before society and law is evil; denying homosexuals equality in life liberty and happiness is also wrong.

Phantom flames and phantom gods will not stop the march of progress.

 

[JustMeSee]

If I didn't know better, I would think that Sof was trying to turn people away from Christianity.