Homosexuality.

[Skreeper]

Sexual desire as in reproductive urges/privates.

... or love. Ever heard of that? I don't know how many times I have to repeat this to you but sexual desire and the desire to reproduce are not the same thing since I can have sex without the intend to reproduce.

 

[possibletarian]

That's why one cannot win an argument with a fanatic: they cannot even consider that they might be "haters". They cannot consider that they might be, even slightly, in the wrong. They are not afraid to open their mouths and shout "you are evil" at everyone not like them... no, not like the glorified self-image they have. And what would they need to apologize for, if God himself shares their opinions.

You cannot!!! expect your point!! to be taken seriously if YOU don't use exclamation marks !! and other Things which MaKe !!! it really hard to READ !!

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

You are just a typical liberal. You only hear what you want to hear. I have NEVER treated a gay person badly in an way !! If I saw a Muslim trying to throw a gay person off of a 7 story building I would be the first to stop it !! I don't know any Christian's that hate gays !! All I said is don't try to force me and my children to except it as normal. And no !!! America does not have to let evil people like Obama and Hillary flood our nation with Muslim's !!! The Muslim religion is the definition of hate !!! How stupid can you be ?? Christian's don't murder women, they don't murder gays, they don't strap bombs to themselves !!! Muslim's do !!! What changed in the last 10 years that says those people are welcome here ?? They are not even trying to mix in. Their religion is pure evil !! The gays should be the first ones in line against the Islamization of America !!!! The gays have been suckered into thinking the liberals are on their side, but it is all about VOTES !!! When Sharia law is in America, there will be no more gay pride !!!! It will be "Gays hide".

So you, other Conservative Christians didn't fight for the gays, not be able to get married. And try to force gay kids into conversion therapy. I'm sure Christian would not allowed gay parades and all the stuff too. If it wasn't for laws. Who knows what hate Christians would do to gay people. As for what ever Muslims do, I haven't met Muslims do these things. Also the law says. We aren't to discriminate against religions. Maybe after Christians murdered the Indians and stole the land. ( I noticed Muslims didn't do that. )So don't give your nonsense, that Christians never killed, raped or murder child, women or men. Maybe they should have slapped only allow Christians are allowed. So other religions. Aren't allowed. I see Muslims no different then Christians. They seek land and try to rule them to their liking.

 

[Freodin]

So you, other Conservative Christians didn't fight for the gays, not be able to get married. And try to force gay kids into conversion therapy. I'm sure Christian would not allowed gay parades and all the stuff too. If it wasn't for laws. Who knows what hate Christians would do to gay people. As for what ever Muslims do, I haven't met Muslims do these things. Also the law says. We aren't to discriminate against religions. Maybe after Christians murdered the Indians and stole the land. ( I noticed Muslims didn't do that. )So don't give your nonsense, that Christians never killed, raped or murder child, women or men. Maybe they should have slapped only allow Christians are allowed. So other religions. Aren't allowed. I see Muslims no different then Christians. They seek land and try to rule them to their liking.

Some muslim hate and kill people. They even "steal land". (Though their most successful land-grab era was a lot earlier.)

Muslim do that. Christians do that. Hindu do that... hey, even atheists do that!

Humans do that.

Most are quite decent, for better or worse reasons. Most humans are not that evil. Some are really evil.

And some settle on the "small" evil of "I didn't kill them! I just didn't treat them like human beings."

 

[Belk]

Isn't that what sexual relations means?

It doesn't mean reproducing with the same sex.

I take it that is a "No, I am unable to show anyone using this definition."?

 

[Desk trauma]

How so? Not to be crass, but sexual acts involve organs of reproduction.

Theirs never came into contact. Everything they did wouldn't fall into sexual relations. Unless I'm misunderstanding your definition.

 

[Sammy-San]

I take it that is a "No, I am unable to show anyone using this definition."?

What?

 

[Desk trauma]

The gays have been suckered into thinking the liberals are on their side, but it is all about VOTES !!

Clearly it's really the conservatives, who have fought tooth and nail against gays at every turn from laws criminalizing their existence to legal recognition of their relationships, that have the best interests of homosexuals at heart. What ever could have made them think otherwise (I mean other that the words and deeds of conservatives)?

 

[Belk]

What?

 

[Strathos]

So you, other Conservative Christians didn't fight for the gays, not be able to get married. And try to force gay kids into conversion therapy. I'm sure Christian would not allowed gay parades and all the stuff too. If it wasn't for laws. Who knows what hate Christians would do to gay people. As for what ever Muslims do, I haven't met Muslims do these things. Also the law says. We aren't to discriminate against religions. Maybe after Christians murdered the Indians and stole the land. ( I noticed Muslims didn't do that. )So don't give your nonsense, that Christians never killed, raped or murder child, women or men. Maybe they should have slapped only allow Christians are allowed. So other religions. Aren't allowed. I see Muslims no different then Christians. They seek land and try to rule them to their liking.

If you consider only the world in the present time, Muslims are responsible for far more evil than Christians, statistically speaking.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No I just know what it actually means as do most people.

Homosexuality means sexual attraction to people of the same sex or gender.

Being homosexual or gay does not mean having sex, in exactly the same way that being heterosexual does not mean having sex.

True. Many admitted homosexuals have said that even though strongly attracted to others they would never engage in sexual activity, preferring to suffer it out, saving family, friends, and themselves from embarrassment and ridicule (and possibly violence).

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Homosexuality is just one of a laundry list of curses that mankind suffers. What sets it apart is that it seems to be particularly offensive to God.

 

[FrankDux]

From a purely evolutionary understanding of nature, I don't see how homosexuality is beneficial for mankind.

Not everything that exists is beneficial for mankind ?

 

[KnowtheSilence]

Homosexuality is just one of a laundry list of curses that mankind suffers. What sets it apart is that it seems to be particularly offensive to God.

Based on...?

 

[ForrestM]

That's why one cannot win an argument with a fanatic: they cannot even consider that they might be "haters". They cannot consider that they might be, even slightly, in the wrong. They are not afraid to open their mouths and shout "you are evil" at everyone not like them... no, not like the glorified self-image they have. And what would they need to apologize for, if God himself shares their opinions.

Funny I never saw any of us hateful conservatives rioting and blocking traffic when Obama won twice. But we are the intolerant ones right ? I just call it like I see it. Maybe your wrong ever think of that ? When I see evil, I am not going to ignore it. Your silence is consent.

 

[Ygrene Imref]

Do you think most people know homosexuality is perverted and sinful?

We all sin, but I read sexual sin is especially defiling and shameful.

Sexual sin is defiling, because it one of the only types of sins that directly has a part in not only harming another, but yourself.

Killing is directed outward from within.
Stealing is directed outward from within.
Lying is directed outward from within.
Dishonoring your parents is directed outward from within.
Coveting is directed outward from within.

Adultery is directed outwardly, and inwardly - coming from within.

Lusting after another person is directed outwardly, and inwardly - coming from within.

Those sins that specifically work to feed personal sensations (witchcraft and divination, eating unclean but tasty things not considered food, sexual sins...) are bidirectional, and are usually considered abominable, because they are plain nasty, dishonerable to the body or God, and usually work to serve self.

The defiling and abominable nature of some sin, however, is a commentary on the moral consequences it brings. But, lying about Santa sends you to the same "place" as it does a murderer. A sin is a sin to God.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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