Homosexuality

[RCCdefender]

Like homosexual people

I don't think you understand. You are not able to concieve by your choice of lifestyle, not a medical issue or birth defect. You have put yourself in this situation. You have a choice and don't say you don't I have read numerous conversion stories of gays turning a new leaf and leading a happy and prosperous heterosexual lifestyles. Deny yourself and do the will of God.

 

[RCCdefender]

Underwear with elastic too.

So I have $10 says you are breaking Biblical law same as me

Very true I am a sinner, but I strive to do the will of God everyday. You however are happy just the way you are. BIG difference.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

You have a choice and don't say you don't I have read numerous conversion stories of gays turning a new leaf and leading a happy and prosperous heterosexual lifestyles.

Have you ever met a "former" homosexual? Me either. I think some of those conversion stories might be made up!

 

[RCCdefender]

No, not silly...true.

We were created with specific organs that all work together yet have specific functions. The cardiovascular system pumps blood throughout the body and thus supplying it with oxygen and vital nutrients....and we have another set of organs in which we call the "reproductive system." The purpose of this system is to prepare or maintain the body to (hence the name) REPRODUCE. I know it comes as a shock that our genitals were not created so that we can experience pleasure whenever we want. The pleasure that comes along with sex is not the ULTIMATE goal, nor is it why God created us with them. Is sex pleasurable...of course. But so is eating...but was our digestive system created with the purpose of experiencing the pleasure of eating, or does it have some other significant purpose???

excellent post... that is so true.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Very true I am a sinner, but I strive to do the will of God everyday. You however are happy just the way you are. BIG difference.

If you are happy wearing underwear ewith elastic, then you are just as happy with your sin as I am.

 

[RCCdefender]

Have you ever met a "former" homosexual? Me either. I think some of those conversion stories might be made up!

As a matter of fact I have. A couple actually. One wrote an excellent book, you should check it out.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

The purpose of this system is to prepare or maintain the body to (hence the name) REPRODUCE

Thats not its only function though.

Just like the cardiovascular system does MORE than just pump blood and nutrients around, the reproductive system does MORE than just enable people to reproduce

 

[RCCdefender]

If you are happy wearing underwear ewith elastic, then you are just as happy with your sin as I am.

I'm sorry, but you aren't making any sense.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

As a matter of fact I have. A couple actually. One wrote an excellent book, you should check it out.

Oh, well if theres a BOOK, then it MUST be true!

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I'm sorry, but you aren't making any sense.

The Bible says that wearing clothing of mixed fibre is abomination unto God, same as it says homosexuality is, right? Then you say that my problem is that I am happy with my sin, well, I'm saying that if you are happy wearing underwear, and intend to keep wearing underwear, then there isn't really a difference between us

 

[StTherese]

Thats not its only function though.

Just like the cardiovascular system does MORE than just pump blood and nutrients around, the reproductive system does MORE than just enable people to reproduce

Really...I'd be interested to hear what the other purposes of these systems are...

 

[RCCdefender]

Oh, well if theres a BOOK, then it MUST be true!

Actually his story is supported by numerous sources. I find it somewhat amusing that you are so fearful of the thought that his story is true.

 

[RCCdefender]

The Bible says that wearing clothing of mixed fibre is abomination unto God, same as it says homosexuality is, right? Then you say that my problem is that I am happy with my sin, well, I'm saying that if you are happy wearing underwear, and intend to keep wearing underwear, then there isn't really a difference between us

In the OT. But the apostles in the NT forbid it as well, but I don't remember Christ or the Apostles forbiding a loin cloth.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Really...I'd be interested to hear what the other purposes of these systems are...

Sure. You pick a system, and tell me what purpose you think it has, and I'm sure I can identify a different purpose it has that you didn't know about.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

In the OT. But the apostles in the NT forbid it as well, but I don't remember Christ or the Apostles forbiding a loin cloth.

I don't remember Christ or the Apostles saying anything against homosexuality either

 

[DMagoh]

...do you not ever read the Bible?

...Sure. so what?

As many of you know, I am a Christian man that has struggled with unwanted same sex attractions my entire life. Unfortunately, I gave in to that desire for years. I still have a very strong desire to be able to be sexual with another man. However, I cannot logically look at the Bible and say that it is not sin. I wish I could. However, there are numerous verses in the Bible, and the only way to be able to say it is not sin is to reinterpret, twist, make excuses for, make assumptions, and basically see what you want to see.

For those that read the Bible and have rationalized homosexuality, does it bother you ANY that you have to take numerous verses from the Bible and change the way they read, make complicated explanations for them, and/or eliminate them altogether for various reasons?

• One verse is only condemning unhospitality
• One verse is only condemning homosexual rape
• One verse is only condemning uncleanliness
• One verse is only condemning male prostitutes
• One verse is only condemning engaging in homosexual acts during pagan worship
• One verse is only condemning heterosexual men engaging in homosexual acts
• One verse the word homosexual was translated wrong

How many verses have to be manipulated? Basically, if you can read the Bible and justify homosexuality, then you have the ability to justify ANY sin you want to.

Six years ago I repented of my homosexual behaviour. Do I still have same sex attractions? Absolutely. Do I wish there was some way I could still engage in sex with other men? Absolutely. Why is it wrong? I dont know, other than that God said so. That pretty much ends the debate. I can't imagine myself standing before a Holy and Almighty God and trying to justify having sex with a another man. Even if it was the only man I ever had sex with and we were in a monogamous relationship. I just can't fool myself into believing what is obviously not true.

 

[RCCdefender]

Sure. You pick a system, and tell me what purpose you think it has, and I'm sure I can identify a different purpose it has that you didn't know about.

The reproductive system, and don't say pleasure. Thats an effect not a purpose.

 

[RCCdefender]

I don't remember Christ or the Apostles saying anything against homosexuality either

I do. For one show me where in the bible they say joining a man and a man, or a woman and a woman in marriage?

 

[RCCdefender]

As many of you know, I am a Christian man that has struggled with unwanted same sex attractions my entire life. Unfortunately, I gave in to that desire for years. I still have a very strong desire to be able to be sexual with another man. However, I cannot logically look at the Bible and say that it is not sin. I wish I could. However, there are numerous verses in the Bible, and the only way to be able to say it is not sin is to reinterpret, twist, make excuses for, make assumptions, and basically see what you want to see.

For those that read the Bible and have rationalized homosexuality, does it bother you ANY that you have to take numerous verses from the Bible and change the way they read, make complicated explanations for them, and/or eliminate them altogether for various reasons?

• One verse is only condemning unhospitality
• One verse is only condemning homosexual rape
• One verse is only condemning uncleanliness
• One verse is only condemning male prostitutes
• One verse is only condemning engaging in homosexual acts during pagan worship
• One verse is only condemning heterosexual men engaging in homosexual acts
• One verse the word homosexual was translated wrong

How many verses have to be manipulated? Basically, if you can read the Bible and justify homosexuality, then you have the ability to justify ANY sin you want to.

Six years ago I repented of my homosexual behaviour. Do I still have same sex attractions? Absolutely. Do I wish there was some way I could still engage in sex with other men? Absolutely. Why is it wrong? I dont know, other than that God said so. That pretty much ends the debate. I can't imagine myself standing before a Holy and Almighty God and trying to justify having sex with a another man. Even if it was the only man I ever had sex with and we were in a monogamous relationship. I just can't fool myself into believing what is obviously not true.

Great post. And if you are still struggling with your temptations I will pray for you. I know how difficult overcoming vices can be, it's not easy.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

The reproductive system, and don't say pleasure. Thats an effect not a purpose.

There are psychological benefitsand hotrmonal balances caused by reproductive organs... you can dislike the pleasure aspect of it all you want,but that doesn't change the fact that the physical and psycho-social benefits of pleasurable sex are well supported.

I do. For one show me where in the bible they say joining a man and a man, or a woman and a woman in marriage?

BZZZZT! Thats not what you said. Just because they didn't specifically mention it is NOT the same as Christ or the Disciples speaking against sdomething... otherwise pretty much everything would, by default, be "bad"