Homosexuality

[KarrieTex]

I think people are realizing that they are not getting anywhere. People who think its a sin continue to think so, people who don't, same same. The sun will come up tomorrow, what's for breakfast?

I think you are right it's beating a dead horse.

Or as I like to say...look there's a dead horse, go beat it.

 

[ScottBot]

I think you are right it's beating a dead horse.

Or as I like to say...look there's a dead horse, go beat it.

 

[SuddenlyISee]

I find that beating a dead horse is a great way to vent your frustrations. Sometimes, when I get really irritated, I go find a horse and shoot it just so I can beat it after it's dead.

 

[KarrieTex]

Great! Now I have to go find a new one to beat since everyone found this one.

 

[savedfromdistruction]

First let me deal witrh the statement that a person cannot help that they are homosexual. That is totally false.
1Corinthians 10:13
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].

Yes you are corrcet that there are catholics, Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians who are into the homosexual sin, but not Christians. A Christian has repented and while they may have been a homosexual before salvation, their repentance and faith makes that lifestyle no more.

1 Cor 6:9-11 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

You asked the question;
would God send thhese to hell? The answer is yes He will if they do not repent.

"You said that the God you woorship is loving and just (meaning fair). The God i worship must be vengeful and wrathful. Wew must worship diferent gods."

Yes that is very possible. The God of the bible is wrathful and he will sentence all to hell who do not repent.

What if the person cannot help how they are? There are many homosexual Christians- Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, all of whom could be moral and just and yet not help who they are. Would you say God would send these people to Hell? The God i worship is loving and just (Meaning "Fair"). The God you worship must be vengeful and wrathful. We must worship different gods.


I am. There are many persons, including myself (I am bisexual), who cannot help their desire for the same sex. It is not a conspiracy. it is not a big old trick for attention. There are people out there who geniuenly cannot help the way they are. Would a God who is described as fair and just send someone to Hell for something they cant help? You do realise that the commandment is "Thou shall not commit adultry".

Allow me to define "adultry":

Main Entry: adul·tery
Function: noun
Pronunciation: &-'d&l-t(&-)re</I>
Inflected Form(s): plural -ter·ies
Etymology: Middle English, alteration of </I>avoutrie, from Middle French, from Latin </I>adulterium, from </I>adulter adulterer, back-formation from </I>adulterare
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her husband</I>

Where does it say "homosexuality"? I would like to know.

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

First let me deal witrh the statement that a person cannot help that they are homosexual. That is totally false.
1Corinthians 10:13
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].

Yes you are corrcet that there are catholics, Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians who are into the homosexual sin, but not Christians. A Christian has repented and while they may have been a homosexual before salvation, their repentance and faith makes that lifestyle no more.

1 Cor 6:9-11 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

You asked the question;
would God send thhese to hell? The answer is yes He will if they do not repent.

"You said that the God you woorship is loving and just (meaning fair). The God i worship must be vengeful and wrathful. Wew must worship diferent gods."

Yes that is very possible. The God of the bible is wrathful and he will sentence all to hell who do not repent.

Thanks for sharing the wonderful news of the Gospel.

 

[savedfromdistruction]

Thanks for sharing the wonderful news of the Gospel.

You are very welcome. Today many are trying to pass off easy believism which will cost them their souls. God is an angry God and full of wrath. However He is willing to pardon all who will repent and believe.

 

[davedjy]

You are very welcome. Today many are trying to pass off easy believism which will cost them their souls. God is an angry God and full of wrath. However He is willing to pardon all who will repent and believe.

And again, you would just be left w/your interpretation, when there is another side to what the Scriptures are truly saying.

 

[SoldierKG]

First let me deal witrh the statement that a person cannot help that they are homosexual. That is totally false.
1Corinthians 10:13
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].

Yes you are corrcet that there are catholics, Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians who are into the homosexual sin, but not Christians. A Christian has repented and while they may have been a homosexual before salvation, their repentance and faith makes that lifestyle no more.

1 Cor 6:9-11 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

You asked the question;
would God send thhese to hell? The answer is yes He will if they do not repent.

"You said that the God you woorship is loving and just (meaning fair). The God i worship must be vengeful and wrathful. Wew must worship diferent gods."

Yes that is very possible. The God of the bible is wrathful and he will sentence all to hell who do not repent.

First off I find your post and your use of scripture to bring hate EXTREMELY offensive. So let's break it down ok.

1. Your verse from 1 Cor is very very true. God will not allow us to be tempted above what we can handle. A homosexual can handle the desire to have sex with another of the same sex.
A: I know people who are Christians, have homosexual desires, and beg God that they didn't.


2.I hate when people like you make the assumption that all homosexuals have commited a homosexual act. The verse say fornicators and adulterers. When you as a straight person are attracted to another person who is of the opposite does that mean you have had sex with that person and committed adultery. You are trying (poorly) to use scripture to justify your hatred of homsexuals. There is no scripture that says that simply being a homosexual is a sin. Show it to me if there is.


3.Your "Reopent or go to hell" message will simply be ignored by a person who may want to join Christ. Because it will be the same old Christian bigotry. Jesus did not stand on streets yelling REPENT REPENT or you will go to hell. He loved, and showed loved, and lived love. He told people lovingly what would happen if they did not believe, and said, that because of God's LOVE he would not wish any to perish. You want to show Non-Believers, love not fear otherwise you will push them away. Be loving, live loving, and save. Teach, preach, and live fear and you will be feared ignored and soon silenced.

 

[ScottBot]

Thanks for sharing the wonderful news of the Gospel.

Maybe you have an issue with Jesus, for He said the very same thing. Therefore it IS part of the Gospel.

[bible]Matthew 13:41-50[/bible]
[bible]matthew 22:1-14[/bible]
[bible]luke 13:23-28[/bible]

 

[savedfromdistruction]

having a temptation is not the same as committing the act. Read James about this. Biblically speaking a homosexual is someone who engages in the act. The same wiith a liar or theif or whhatever. No one goes around saying that they are a theif because they have had a thought of the crime.

neither is a pperson a homosexual because they have temptations of the sin. The prolem arises is they lust on another which is their own doing.. The moment that a temptation comes they could put it o rest, but if they doo nt then they carry out the sin. If thhey woould obey scripture even thhe temptation would stop.

Phl 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.

Gal 5:16 [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

All homosexuality IS siin! there is no exceptions. The same is true with adultry or anything else. Every person who is a homosexual chose to follow that path by not glroifying God in their heart. The same is with any type of sin. No one ever claims to be a drug addict who never did drugs. No one who has never done homosexual acts is a homosexual. A drug addict is in sin and a homosexual is iin sin. No exceptions.

First off I find your post and your use of scripture to bring hate EXTREMELY offensive. So let's break it down ok.

1. Your verse from 1 Cor is very very true. God will not allow us to be tempted above what we can handle. A homosexual can handle the desire to have sex with another of the same sex.
A: I know people who are Christians, have homosexual desires, and beg God that they didn't.


2.I hate when people like you make the assumption that all homosexuals have commited a homosexual act. The verse say fornicators and adulterers. When you as a straight person are attracted to another person who is of the opposite does that mean you have had sex with that person and committed adultery. You are trying (poorly) to use scripture to justify your hatred of homsexuals. There is no scripture that says that simply being a homosexual is a sin. Show it to me if there is.


3.Your "Reopent or go to hell" message will simply be ignored by a person who may want to join Christ. Because it will be the same old Christian bigotry. Jesus did not stand on streets yelling REPENT REPENT or you will go to hell. He loved, and showed loved, and lived love. He told people lovingly what would happen if they did not believe, and said, that because of God's LOVE he would not wish any to perish. You want to show Non-Believers, love not fear otherwise you will push them away. Be loving, live loving, and save. Teach, preach, and live fear and you will be feared ignored and soon silenced.

 

[SoldierKG]

having a temptation is not the same as committing the act. Read James about this. Biblically speaking a homosexual is someone who engages in the act. The same wiith a liar or theif or whhatever. No one goes around saying that they are a theif because they have had a thought of the crime.

neither is a pperson a homosexual because they have temptations of the sin. The prolem arises is they lust on another which is their own doing.. The moment that a temptation comes they could put it o rest, but if they doo nt then they carry out the sin. If thhey woould obey scripture even thhe temptation would stop.

Phl 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.

Gal 5:16 [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

All homosexuality IS siin! there is no exceptions. The same is true with adultry or anything else. Every person who is a homosexual chose to follow that path by not glroifying God in their heart. The same is with any type of sin. No one ever claims to be a drug addict who never did drugs. No one who has never done homosexual acts is a homosexual. A drug addict is in sin and a homosexual is iin sin. No exceptions.

Where did the Bible define a homosexual as one who engaged in the act? You seem to have a distorted view of what a homnosexual is. You see, you make it sound like a homosexual is someone who lusts after someone of the same sex, and that's not the way it is. You also make it sound like people can control their attractions to other people. When you as a straight person are attracted to someone does that necessarily mean that you are lusting after that person? The Bible does not call being a homosexual as a sin, it calls engaging in an act of homosexuality a sin, not just being one.

 

[savedfromdistruction]

Where did the Bible define a homosexual as one who engaged in the act? You seem to have a distorted view of what a homnosexual is. You see, you make it sound like a homosexual is someone who lusts after someone of the same sex, and that's not the way it is. You also make it sound like people can control their attractions to other people. When you as a straight person are attracted to someone does that necessarily mean that you are lusting after that person? The Bible does not call being a homosexual as a sin, it calls engaging in an act of homosexuality a sin, not just being one.

I have given the scripture. I cannot help it if you cannot accept it. All homosexuals are in sin. No exceptions. The term means that the person is disposed to same sex relations. The bible condemns such.

 

[davedjy]

I have given the scripture. I cannot help it if you cannot accept it. All homosexuals are in sin. No exceptions. The term means that the person is disposed to same sex relations. The bible condemns such.

Only from the one side of the Christian perspective it does.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm

What is someone supposed to do that is like this that is already born again?

 

[SoldierKG]

I have given the scripture. I cannot help it if you cannot accept it. All homosexuals are in sin. No exceptions. The term means that the person is disposed to same sex relations. The bible condemns such.

Where did you post such scripture? So I guess that you as a heterosexual are disposed to opposite sex relations as well? Even though you may be a virgin? We should show [gays] the love of Christ, otherwise we compromise our message.

 

[savedfromdistruction]

Where did you post such scripture? So I guess that you as a heterosexual are disposed to opposite sex relations as well? Even though you may be a virgin? We should show [gays] the love of Christ, otherwise we compromise our message.

Relationship between men and women are permitted where marriage has taken place so in such cases there is no sin. The love of Chriist is shown by telling the homosexual the truth about their sin pointing them to repentance and faiht, not by covering it up with suggestions that it is not sin.

 

[SoldierKG]

Relationship between men and women are permitted where marriage has taken place so in such cases there is no sin. The love of Chriist is shown by telling the homosexual the truth about their sin pointing them to repentance and faiht, not by covering it up with suggestions that it is not sin.

So expolain people that do not choose homosexuality.

 

[savedfromdistruction]

Only from the one side of the Christian perspective it does.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm

What is someone supposed to do that is like this that is already born again?

The person who becomes a Christian from the homosexual lifestyle does the same thing that any other sinner does to get saved.They turn from their sin or they do not get saved.

 

[savedfromdistruction]

So expolain people that do not choose homosexuality.

I do not understand the question. Explain what exactly about people who do not choose the homosexual lifestyle?

 

[SoldierKG]

Tell me then where homosexuality in and of itself is considered a sin....