Homosexuality: Right or Wrong? (read pg1)

[Ohioprof]

I'm just glad that for all eternity, the only place I'll be hearing "its ok to be gay" from is from that giant pillar of smoke ascending from the lake of fire where all the unrepentant go.

Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Keep the commandments of God. repent of homosexuality, covetousness, pride, idolatry, and all of these:

Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Mat 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

Again, I do not agree with any of this.

 

[Ohioprof]

You are dead wrong. Happy Birthday.

Thank you for the birthday wish.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I would just like to take a moment to thank the Lord that, due to your own choice of unbelief, none of you will be in heaven. (believers excluded from that statement)

Luk 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.


Mat 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Careful!

Those scriptures might come back to bite YOU some day!

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I'm just glad that for all eternity, the only place I'll be hearing "its ok to be gay" from is from that giant pillar of smoke ascending from the lake of fire where all the unrepentant go.

Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Keep the commandments of God. repent of homosexuality, covetousness, pride, idolatry, and all of these:

Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Mat 15:20 These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

A lovely, and typical "Christian" sentiment.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear ChaliceThunder,

A lovely, and typical "Christian" sentiment.

Yes indeed,
Rev 14:8, Rev 14:9, Rev 14:10, Rev 14:11, Rev 14:12, Mat 15:18, Mat 15:19, Mat 15:20 are all from the Bible and the revelation and teaching of Jesus Christ. I think you will find almost all people recognise Christians beiieve the Bibical testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

[Trashionista]

Anyone who thinks Jesus came to bring us dogma has missed his message completely.

Word.

 

[Trashionista]

No point. Many things are obvious to the beholder.

Re-read my point.

I have never been married, just watching married people interacting will not give me enough knowledge to understand the experience of knowing what marriage is.

The only wisdom is in knowing you know nothing, rings true. Just as you will never know truly if being homosexual is despicable, as you are not homosexual. At least I'd certainly hope not, as that is a ton of self-hate radiating if true. Not to mention glowing discrimination against fellow man.

To get back to the Toronto issue, YOU don't understand what it means to be a Torontonian if you don't live here. I don't live in New York - I may be a short plane ride away, but no matter how much I visit, I will never truly be a New Yorker unless I live there. There is a huge divide between suburbia and Toronto proper - as anyone who saw the last federal election results would realize. So, you don't really have an objective opinion on Toronto.

Men and women of God are supposed to discriminate between truth and lies and between sin and righteousness.

You don't discriminate in a proper way. You alienate.

Good.

Yes, it is pretty awesome.

 

[Trashionista]

What do I suggest?

That homosexuality should not be tolerated in society. Isn't that your entire point by insinuating that Toronto is frog soup?

Why should a person be living outside the standards of the God who made them?

Gee whiz. Maybe they don't believe in God? Therefore making this point moot.

What do you think God's compassion is about? Do you think a just judge would let the man who raped and murdered your child go free becasue He is compassionate? After all, all he did was break a rule.

Murder & rape infringes upon basic human rights. Two homosexual men engaging in consentual [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] or anal sex isn't something that infringes upon one's right to say no. It isn't something that is particularly bothersome to me if done in the privacy of one's home, and I don't see why it should bother YOU so very much that you feel the need to rant againt an entire metropolis.

Consentual sex is not against the law - which is why a judge couldn't hold it up in court. Rape, however, or the taking of another human's life goes against the Right to Say No and the Right to Live. Therefore, against the law. Again, this point is moot.

Why am I not surprised?

I hold contemporary and relevant views? Could be why.

 

[Zecryphon]

Again, I do not agree with any of this.

Happy Birthday, Prof!

 

[Zecryphon]

You are dead wrong. Happy Birthday.

Please Axe! Not another thread about universalism. I can't take it again! LOL

 

[Floatingaxe]

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Re-read my point.

I have never been married, just watching married people interacting will not give me enough knowledge to understand the experience of knowing what marriage is.

The only wisdom is in knowing you know nothing, rings true. Just as you will never know truly if being homosexual is despicable, as you are not homosexual. At least I'd certainly hope not, as that is a ton of self-hate radiating if true. Not to mention glowing discrimination against fellow man.

To get back to the Toronto issue, YOU don't understand what it means to be a Torontonian if you don't live here. I don't live in New York - I may be a short plane ride away, but no matter how much I visit, I will never truly be a New Yorker unless I live there. There is a huge divide between suburbia and Toronto proper - as anyone who saw the last federal election results would realize. So, you don't really have an objective opinion on Toronto.

I know TO.

You don't discriminate in a proper way. You alienate.

People alienate themselves from their Father.

 

[Floatingaxe]

That homosexuality should not be tolerated in society. Isn't that your entire point by insinuating that Toronto is frog soup?

Frog soup? What's that?

Gee whiz. Maybe they don't believe in God? Therefore making this point moot.

It's always a better choice to choose the good life in God.

Murder & rape infringes upon basic human rights. Two homosexual men engaging in consentual [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] or anal sex isn't something that infringes upon one's right to say no. It isn't something that is particularly bothersome to me if done in the privacy of one's home, and I don't see why it should bother YOU so very much that you feel the need to rant againt an entire metropolis.

Moral relativism stinks to high heaven!

God is the one you offend...it's HIS RIGHT TO SAY NO! Who cares, eh?

Consentual sex is not against the law - which is why a judge couldn't hold it up in court. Rape, however, or the taking of another human's life goes against the Right to Say No and the Right to Live. Therefore, against the law. Again, this point is moot.

It's not moot to the Lawgiver, God Almighty, who judges you. Homosexuals are moral criminals to God.

Everyone is guilty of breaking every commandment by committing one offense. Being unrepentant about it ensures judgment.



I hold contemporary and relevant views? Could be why.[/quote]

 

[RMDY]

There is nothing in scripture that says penguins exist either... whats your point?

1Ti 1:9 knowing this: that law is not laid down for a righteous [person] but for lawless and insubordinate [persons] (Analytical Literal version)

Rom 3:23 For all sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Mat 5:17 "Do not suppose that I came to tear down [fig., abolish] the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to tear down _but_ to fulfill.

Mat 22:37 Then Jesus said to him, "'You will love the LORD your God with your whole heart [fig., your entire inner self] and with your whole soul and with your whole understanding.' [Deut 6:4,5]
Mat 22:38 "This is [the] first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 "But a second [one is] similar to it, 'You will love your neighbor as yourself.' [Lev 19:18]
Mat 22:40 "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Joh 4:22 "_You*_ prostrate yourselves in worship before what you* do not know; we prostrate ourselves in worship before what we know, because salvation is from the Jews.
Joh 4:23 "_But_ an hour is coming and now is when the true worshipers will prostrate themselves in worship before the Father in spirit and truth, for indeed the Father is seeking such to be prostrating themselves in worship before Him.
Joh 4:24 "God [is] Spirit [or, [is] as to His essence Spirit], and it is necessary [for] the ones prostrating themselves in worship before Him to be prostrating in worship in spirit and truth."

Gal 5:25 Since we are living in [or, by] the Spirit, let us also be keeping in line with [fig., be living in conformity with] the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not continue becoming conceited, provoking [or, irritating] one another, envying one another!

Gal 5:16 But I say, be walking about [fig., conducting yourselves] in [or, by] the Spirit, and you* shall by no means fulfill [or, carry out] the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusts contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit contrary to the flesh. Now these are hostile to one another, so that what you* should be desiring, these [things] you* are not doing.
Gal 5:18 But since you* are led by the Spirit, you* are not under [the] Law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, sexual sin, impurity [or, immorality], flagrant sexual immorality,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, witchcraft, hostilities [or, feuds], quarrels, jealous rivalries, angry outbursts, selfish ambitions, divisions [or, discords], heretical sects,
Gal 5:21 envies [or, jealousies], murders, drunkennesses, drunken orgies, and the [things] like these; which I forewarn you*, just as I also warned [you*] before that the ones practicing such [things] will not inherit [the] kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is: love, joy, peace [or, freedom from anxiety], patience, kindness, goodness [or, generosity], faith,
Gal 5:23 gentleness [or, considerateness], self-control. Against such there is no law.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Please Axe! Not another thread about universalism. I can't take it again! LOL

Howdy, Zecryphon! GBY!

 

[RMDY]

There's also nothing in the Scripture that says airplanes or wheelchairs should exist. Should we do away with them?

Food is for the stomach and the stomach is for food, but God will do away with both of them. Yet the body is not for immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord is for the body. 1 Corinthians 6:13

 

[Trashionista]

Frog soup? What's that?

Frog in a cauldron ring a bell?

It's always a better choice to choose the good life in God.

So you believe. Not everyone feels the same way. Why should they be held to the same standard if they don't believe what you do? [Within relative reason.]

Moral relativism stinks to high heaven!

In your view, maybe. But you seem to think you know Toronto as well, so I'll take thism comment for what its worth.

God is the one you offend...it's HIS RIGHT TO SAY NO! Who cares, eh?

Well, if someone doesn't believe in God, [which was the original scenario I gave], this wouldn't be very applicable, no?

It's not moot to the Lawgiver, God Almighty, who judges you. Homosexuals are moral criminals to God.

And I disagree.

Everyone is guilty of breaking every commandment by committing one offense. Being unrepentant about it ensures judgment.

The lesser of two evils? Homosexuality vs. murder? Homosexuality vs. forcible rape? So, a if by chance, a repentant Adolf Hitler is somehow more "moral" than a homosexual who doesn't repent? Puh-lease.

 

[Trashionista]

I know TO.

You think you do. Key difference.

People alienate themselves from their Father.

And they're allowed to.

 

[RMDY]

Quirk,

Gal 5:16 But I say, be walking about [fig., conducting yourselves] in [or, by] the Spirit, and you* shall by no means fulfill [or, carry out] the lust of the flesh.

Food is for the stomach and the stomach is for food, but God will do away with both of them. Yet the body is not for immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord is for the body. 1 Corinthians 6:13

 

[RMDY]

The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.
1 John 3:8

 

[Floatingaxe]

The lesser of two evils? Homosexuality vs. murder? Homosexuality vs. forcible rape? So, a if by chance, a repentant Adolf Hitler is somehow more "moral" than a homosexual who doesn't repent? Puh-lease.

Yes, you are right. A truly repentant Hitler gets a penthouse suite at the Waldorf Celestia over an unrepentant anyobe---in particular a homosexual.

According to the word of God.