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Putting more exclamation points on a sentence makes it true.Tangnefedd said:The God of the Bible is a manmade construct!
Tangnefedd said:The God of the Bible is a manmade construct!
Apparently.Dracon427 said:Is cuddling, kissing, hugging, and expressing undieing love, "Yuk?"
Tangnefedd said:Well God didn't write the Bible. The authors who did viewed God from their own limited perspective. We live in an age very different to their own.
So many people have been damaged by people using the Bible as a stick to beat them with, that cannot be right and is unacceptable imo.
justanobserver said:but if the bible is the inspired Word of God and is written by men who God inspired to write it, then didnt God write it? be it in proxy or whatever euphinism one might want to use, it would boil down to the Bible is the Word or expressed written mind of God David himself said numerous times in Psalms about how the Word was from God or of God.
Not exactly. Loved. God so loved the world. John 3:16. Its past tense, God has shown how much He loves us by how He loved us. Jesus died for us whilst we were still sinners. Rom 5:8. whilst we were sinners He died for us. Jesus died as an atonement for our sins 1 John 4:10 . So its obviously not all OK with God."its ok with me whatever you wanna do God loves you
loriersea said:In most mainstream Christian thinking, the Bible is both a human and divine product. The biblical authors were writing out of their experiences of God, and if we believe that those experiences were true (which I believe they were), then in that sense the Bible is inspired. However, the biblical authors also filtered their experiences of God, as we all do, through their particular cultural understandings, experiences, and prejudices. In that sense, the Bible is very human. Many Christian traditions see the Bible as authoritative not because it is the inerrant word of God (that is, in fact, a relatively modern idea), but because it is a site of encounter between the person and God. The Bible is God's word not because every word in it is literally dictated by God, but because when I read the Bible, and when I meditate upon the experiences of and with God recounted therein, God can use those words to speak to me now. But that is an interactive process, where God uses the words on the page to say something to me in this moment, not a process where the words on the page are themselves the words of God.

loriersea said:In most mainstream Christian thinking
loriersea said:However, the biblical authors also filtered their experiences of God, as we all do, through their particular cultural understandings, experiences, and prejudices.
loriersea said:but because when I read the Bible, and when I meditate upon the experiences of and with God recounted therein, God can use those words to speak to me now. But that is an interactive process, where God uses the words on the page to say something to me in this moment, not a process where the words on the page are themselves the words of God.
I agree with himAbbadon said:I voted "other".
I figure homosexuality is as immoral as heterosexuality. They just lust after their own gender instead of the opposite. When the OT was written, they didn't have very good cleanliness standards. Technically, I should have dug a hole some distance away a few minutes ago to do my business, and happy couples around the world shouldn't have sex when the woman is having her period. But that didn't happen. We can afford to do stuff, like wear polyester, eat dairy and meat from the same animal at the same time, and other things, that the Jews of the OT couldn't. It's as immoral as anything else (take that any way, actually, all ways), but Christ forgives us of our sins. And noone's oging to go the rest of thier life without sinning after accepting Christ's forgiveness.
I do not have an irrational fear of or contempt for heterosexuals. I also do not advocate discrimination against heterosexuals. I do not advocate or support discrimination against any minority. I dont use my religion to prop up my personal prejudices. I do not compare the state of being a heterosexual to being a sin. So the answer is no.butxifxnot said:Is saying something is wrong having a phobia of it now? Are you a heterophobe?
I would not be surprised .It's what I would want! Don't judge me!![]()
so you are saying that racism and slavery are moral and just and the fact that society now views such things with disdain has no baring on the morality of these activities.If this were 200 years ago, we could be talking about slavery or racism right here. Again, just because society thinks something is right doesn't make it so.
still you put gays and lesbians in a catch 22 and no matter what you get to say nasty things about gays and lesbians.Let's see, I can be honest and say I've stolen, or I can lie and say I haven't...
Either way I've sinned...
that division being laws you want to inflict on others and laws you find inconvenient and wish to pretend dont apply to you.Sin is transgression of the Law. There are two laws, buddy.
God didnt write the bible?Study what you are talking about instead of this load of trash that has been fed to you about "inconsistencies". There was the ceremonial laws and the laws used to govern the nation of Israel as a theocracy (written and given by Moses ie Moses' law) versus God's law/ the Ten Commandments (which He would not even entrust to Moses to write: God wrote it Himself)
Surely you can see a difference between speeding and murder. The difference is similar; one violates the laws of the land, the other the Laws of God/morality/conscience (whatever you want to call them) which happen to be enforced by the laws of the land.
And when is this love going to start?Montalban said:Love thy neighbour; we're encouraged to 'fuss' over others.