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Homosexuality from a christian point of veiw.

What do you think of homosexuality?

  • it is wrong, immoral and un-ethical i shall try to convert peolple.

  • i disagree with it but as long as it dosent interfere with me...

  • im indifferent/ undecided

  • its ok with me whatever you wanna do God loves you

  • im gay and proud

  • other... (please specify in the forum if your opinion dosent generall fall under these options)


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Tangnefedd said:
The God of the Bible is a manmade construct!
Putting more exclamation points on a sentence makes it true. ;) J/K

If you don't believe in the God of the Bible, you (generic "you" for those who are looking to ban me) aren't a Christian. Christ Himself believed in the God of the Bible, and if you are a follower of Christ you will follow His example.

No matter how many people stand idly by, watching the homosexuals continue on in their lifestyles, God will judge them in the same manner as He will judge fornicators, and liars, and thieves.
 
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Well God didn't write the Bible. The authors who did viewed God from their own limited perspective. We live in an age very different to their own.

So many people have been damaged by people using the Bible as a stick to beat them with, that cannot be right and is unacceptable imo.
 
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Tangnefedd said:
Well God didn't write the Bible. The authors who did viewed God from their own limited perspective. We live in an age very different to their own.

So many people have been damaged by people using the Bible as a stick to beat them with, that cannot be right and is unacceptable imo.


well, seeins how I am not a christian and probably am or should be the last one to make a comment on the Bible, but if the bible is the inspired Word of God and is written by men who God inspired to write it, then didnt God write it? be it in proxy or whatever euphinism one might want to use, it would boil down to the Bible is the Word or expressed written mind of God David himself said numerous times in Psalms about how the Word was from God or of God. Told us to hide it (the word) in our hearts, use it for a lamp, every word is pure it sais. Maybe I am wrong but John said His word is the same yesterday, today and foreever so it dont matter what period it was written in, would it? the premise of it is still the same.

I would have to think if we are to use the Bible as His words to us to follow, if there is an error, wouldnt He by now pointed out a corrected version to follow instead? or an updated one that theres no doubt in christianity's mind thats of Him?

But again, i am not a christian so I may be in error.


anyways, sorry for going off topic since the topic was about homosexuals, not the truth of the Word.
 
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justanobserver said:
but if the bible is the inspired Word of God and is written by men who God inspired to write it, then didnt God write it? be it in proxy or whatever euphinism one might want to use, it would boil down to the Bible is the Word or expressed written mind of God David himself said numerous times in Psalms about how the Word was from God or of God.

In most mainstream Christian thinking, the Bible is both a human and divine product. The biblical authors were writing out of their experiences of God, and if we believe that those experiences were true (which I believe they were), then in that sense the Bible is inspired. However, the biblical authors also filtered their experiences of God, as we all do, through their particular cultural understandings, experiences, and prejudices. In that sense, the Bible is very human. Many Christian traditions see the Bible as authoritative not because it is the inerrant word of God (that is, in fact, a relatively modern idea), but because it is a site of encounter between the person and God. The Bible is God's word not because every word in it is literally dictated by God, but because when I read the Bible, and when I meditate upon the experiences of and with God recounted therein, God can use those words to speak to me now. But that is an interactive process, where God uses the words on the page to say something to me in this moment, not a process where the words on the page are themselves the words of God.
 
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"its ok with me whatever you wanna do God loves you
Not exactly. Loved. God so loved the world. John 3:16. Its past tense, God has shown how much He loves us by how He loved us. Jesus died for us whilst we were still sinners. Rom 5:8. whilst we were sinners He died for us. Jesus died as an atonement for our sins 1 John 4:10 . So its obviously not all OK with God.
 
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loriersea said:
In most mainstream Christian thinking, the Bible is both a human and divine product. The biblical authors were writing out of their experiences of God, and if we believe that those experiences were true (which I believe they were), then in that sense the Bible is inspired. However, the biblical authors also filtered their experiences of God, as we all do, through their particular cultural understandings, experiences, and prejudices. In that sense, the Bible is very human. Many Christian traditions see the Bible as authoritative not because it is the inerrant word of God (that is, in fact, a relatively modern idea), but because it is a site of encounter between the person and God. The Bible is God's word not because every word in it is literally dictated by God, but because when I read the Bible, and when I meditate upon the experiences of and with God recounted therein, God can use those words to speak to me now. But that is an interactive process, where God uses the words on the page to say something to me in this moment, not a process where the words on the page are themselves the words of God.

And what makes that "description" any different than any other religion? :scratch:
 
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loriersea said:
In most mainstream Christian thinking


Which is not in line with the teachings of Christ.


loriersea said:
However, the biblical authors also filtered their experiences of God, as we all do, through their particular cultural understandings, experiences, and prejudices.

Please point out scriptures that are obviously prejudicial and outdated.


loriersea said:
but because when I read the Bible, and when I meditate upon the experiences of and with God recounted therein, God can use those words to speak to me now. But that is an interactive process, where God uses the words on the page to say something to me in this moment, not a process where the words on the page are themselves the words of God.

You are creating an image of God that you want, hence, this is an act of idolatry.
 
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Abbadon said:
I voted "other".

I figure homosexuality is as immoral as heterosexuality. They just lust after their own gender instead of the opposite. When the OT was written, they didn't have very good cleanliness standards. Technically, I should have dug a hole some distance away a few minutes ago to do my business, and happy couples around the world shouldn't have sex when the woman is having her period. But that didn't happen. We can afford to do stuff, like wear polyester, eat dairy and meat from the same animal at the same time, and other things, that the Jews of the OT couldn't. It's as immoral as anything else (take that any way, actually, all ways), but Christ forgives us of our sins. And noone's oging to go the rest of thier life without sinning after accepting Christ's forgiveness.
I agree with him
 
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Blizzard1 said:
Homosexuality from another point of view,

It was created to give Christians something to obsess over, even thought it doesn't affect them at all.
Love thy neighbour; we're encouraged to 'fuss' over others.
 
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butxifxnot said:
Is saying something is wrong having a phobia of it now? Are you a heterophobe?
I do not have an irrational fear of or contempt for heterosexuals. I also do not advocate discrimination against heterosexuals. I do not advocate or support discrimination against any minority. I don’t use my religion to prop up my personal prejudices. I do not compare the state of being a heterosexual to being a sin. So the answer is no.


It's what I would want! Don't judge me! :rolleyes:
I would not be surprised….



If this were 200 years ago, we could be talking about slavery or racism right here. Again, just because society thinks something is right doesn't make it so.
so you are saying that racism and slavery are moral and just and the fact that society now views such things with disdain has no baring on the morality of these activities.


Let's see, I can be honest and say I've stolen, or I can lie and say I haven't...
Either way I've sinned...
still you put gays and lesbians in a catch 22 and no matter what you get to say nasty things about gays and lesbians.


Sin is transgression of the Law. There are two laws, buddy.
that division being laws you want to inflict on others and laws you find inconvenient and wish to pretend don’t apply to you.


Study what you are talking about instead of this load of trash that has been fed to you about "inconsistencies". There was the ceremonial laws and the laws used to govern the nation of Israel as a theocracy (written and given by Moses ie Moses' law) versus God's law/ the Ten Commandments (which He would not even entrust to Moses to write: God wrote it Himself)
God didn’t write the bible? :scratch:

anyway... back this strnage "divison" of the law:
of course there is an actual list in the new testament detailing which of the laws of the old testament can be ignored and which as still in effect…no…wait…no such list exists.





But obviously the “ceremonial” laws are clearly defined as such and the moral laws are similarly clearly defined…no…seems they aren’t defined at all…



well at the very least they aren’t sitting right next to each other…well…no…wait I guess they are….


Surely you can see a difference between speeding and murder. The difference is similar; one violates the laws of the land, the other the Laws of God/morality/conscience (whatever you want to call them) which happen to be enforced by the laws of the land.


which is why murdering a homosexual is not a sin….because of your so called “Laws of God/morality/conscience” and Leviticus 20:13…or is this one those inconsistencies you say don’t exist?
 
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