No, there is nothing from God saying that being gay has anything to do with suppressing God's truth.
Please do not try to characterize my beliefs, and let me speak for myself.
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No, there is nothing from God saying that being gay has anything to do with suppressing God's truth.According to God's Word, there is.
I asked about the homosexuals here. You're definitely in the do not believe column.
- Moriah bes not homosexual for the record. (It does have an atypical sexual orientation but it bes asked not to discuss this on CF.) So it can readily empathize with what gays put up with since itself bes persecuted and vilified likewise over things it cannot choose or unchoose or change about itself.
- It has no disdain for God's actual word as absolute truth.
- It has tremendous disdain for human arrogance wed to ignorance what cannot tell the "map from the territory" -- which bes to say cannot tell the difference between the actual WORD and their mere INTERPRETATION of it, but insists the latter constitutes the former and that others' disagreement constitutes apostasy or disdain for the Word.
- Conviction bes an internal and private process, not a matter to be subjected to someone else's dictation. A person receives conviction when THEY PERSONALLY come to comprehend something as being wrong ... NOT because someone else beats them over the head with harrumphing and blustering opinions. Particularly when these MUST be accompanied by lying mischaracterizations of others' thoughts, views and intents.
- So please just stop all that nonsense before it even gets started. It won't fly here where ppls have intelligent minds and do not buy party lines sold to them on a float made from guilt flavored puffs of hot air.
Your reading of the Bible IS interpretation. So is everyone's. The act of reading is an act of interpretation.Moriah, Moriah, Moriah. If I were not an extremely patient person, your "IT" references would have annoyed the snot out of me by now.
But note, I'm not talking about interpretation. And all this talk about something being open to interpretation does nothing more than reinforce what God says about folks suppressing the truth and beinggiven over to their sinful desires.
There is no "onslaught of homosexual fornication."[/quore]
Sure there is. Go to midtown Atlanta. Go to Amsterdam. Go to San Francisco. Go to New York City. Go to Des Moines. Go to Po Dunk USA. Theres an onslaught.
That is purely your imagination talking. There are just gay people living our lives, as everyone lives their lives.
Yep, just gay folks who suppressed the truth and who have been given over to their sinful desires.
There have been gay people marrying our spouses as long as there have been heterosexuals marrying their spouses. Being gay is not a disease, not a "sinful behavior," not something that suddenly appeared on earth. Gay people are just people, like everyone else.
Who said anything about being gay being sinful behavior? Look closely at where it says homosexual fornication.
Moriah, Moriah, Moriah. If I were not an extremely patient person, your "IT" references would have annoyed the snot out of me by now.
But note, I'm not talking about interpretation. And all this talk about something being open to interpretation does nothing more than reinforce what God says about folks suppressing the truth and beinggiven over to their sinful desires.
Your reading of the Bible IS interpretation. So is everyone's. The act of reading is an act of interpretation.
If if there is a source, I wouldn't trust it. Studies like this usually use functional magnetic resonance, which is fairly new and widely criticized for being too indirect of a measurement of brain activity.
An interesting thought here: my pastor told me about a study that shows a gay-sex experience changes a person's thought processes. I don't know the full extent of it though.
What study? Please cite your source.
Well no, and yes.
First off, it bes not those that recognize the presence of interpretation muddying the waters who evince that, but again, those who insist their interpretations equate to absolute perfect 100% incontrovertible grasp of the perfectly 100% objective view of the mind of God Himself. By setting their narrow parameters upon His living, expansive, dynamic Word, they suppress the truth themselves. Then they go around accusing everyone else of being the ones doing what THEY THEMSELVES have actually done, simply because they bes miffed that others will not kowtow to their repetitious assertions that their views constitute the Word.
People in cities have been having sex since cities first appeared in the world. It's not a sudden onslaught. There are just more people in cities to have sex.There is no "onslaught of homosexual fornication."[/quore]
Sure there is. Go to midtown Atlanta. Go to Amsterdam. Go to San Francisco. Go to New York City. Go to Des Moines. Go to Po Dunk USA. Theres an onslaught.
Yep, just gay folks who suppressed the truth and who have been given over to their sinful desires.
Who said anything about being gay being sinful behavior? Look closely at where it says homosexual fornication.
Loving a spouse within a same-sex marriage is not "fornication."
Sorry but there exists no hermetically sealed vacuum chamber where the Holy Spirit mysteriously supplants your own mind's reality-parsing functions. If the Holy Spirit operates discernment in someone He operates through that person's mind, not bypassing that person's mind. A person's own mind and perceptions CANNOT be hermetically sealed and contained in a safe vacuum where they will not affect things for they BES the very medium upon which and through which the Spirit of God (or any other spirit) bes operative.See ya lack the Holy Spirit so you have no understanding of the things of the Spirit.
Those absent the Holy Spirit interpret. we Who know Christ know Truth because it is discerned in our sirits by Him and completely aligned with the FULL of His Word.
That bes your interpretation of what you read, yes.I prefer to let God's Word speak for Itself. And in doing so, It shows that the onslaught of sexual immorality of which homosexual fornication is a part, is the direct result of God having passed judgment and giving people over to the sinful desires of their hearts.
Christians in the early 19th century decried the loss of morals among youth at the time. I was just reading through a primary source from that time in which the Christian author lamented how many young people were engaging in fornication.I prefer to let God's Word speak for Itself. And in doing so, It shows that the onslaught of sexual immorality of which homosexual fornication is a part, is the direct result of God having passed judgment and giving people over to the sinful desires of their hearts.
People in cities have been having sex since cities first appeared in the world. It's not a sudden onslaught. There are just more people in cities to have sex.
Loving a spouse within a same-sex marriage is not "fornication."
More suppression of the truth. Keep on testifying and showing why God's Word is true.
I am neither dazed nor confused. You do not know that I lack the Holy Spirit. You don't know me and cannot judge me or my relationship with God.See ya lack the Holy Spirit so you have no understanding of the things of the Spirit.
Those absent the Holy Spirit interpret. We who know Christ know Truth because it is discerned in our spirits by Him and completely aligned with the FULL of His Word.
I understand that your world of trying to understand and interpret with your own mind have left you dazed and confused as to the way of Christ.
But those in Christ expect those not indwelled by the Holy Spirit to act that way.
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