Homosexual marriage...what to do???

[WhatThe]

That's the thing that made me wise up to the fact that those who use the Bible to condemn homosexuality really have no case. As the Bible says in Matthew 12:33, "Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit." The predicted "bad fruit" for homosexuals were nothing but stereotypes, totally not borne out by real life. So if there is nothing wrong with it, why would it be arbitrarily condemned? God may have just as well forbidden people to wear orange clothing, or something else like that. I can't believe in such an arbitrary deity, so I can't believe a Biblical interpretation that condemns homosexuality.

Thanks Maneki
Glad to see that someone agrees with me.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Your so right! Loose all your friends and be a hypocrite by judging them based on their sins when you your self sin, treat homosexuality as the biggest sin ever even though there are clearly worse ones (from a human point of veiw, such as killing, stealing, etc) and christianity teachs that all sins are equal,

Then why do GLBT's literally try to attempt theology that demands that homosexuality is not a sin. These are people that should concern a Christian. No Apostles would go to a gay wedding anymore than they would knowingly eat food sacrificed to idols. Read their work on the subject of what Christians should do. Peter makes it clear that your old friends may not like your commitment to being a Christian but that is just too bad for them.

oh and by the way never go to anyones wedding because in >90% atleast one of the people in the relationship have probably had premarital sex so in gods eye they are married to the first person they had sex with so this marriage is invalid.

How did Jesus handle the adulterer? And, if the bride (a woman) and the groom (a man) were to declare that they are proud of their sin life and promte others to join in their sin life, NO Christian should be at their wedding.

*Oh also ALWAYS make stupid comparisions of gay marriage to other obviously worse things (see above comparisions to abortion and porn) order to vilify it and in an attempt get more supporters.

The Apostles gave us ample teaching to reject supporting those that openly justify sin and sinning. And, "porn" doesn't hurt anyone right? It is just a sexual taste. Are we to also include the desire for porn as a sexual orientation. Look up the word "orientation." Porn may indeed be a congenital condition.

*If you dont do this last most important one your not a "True Christian"

True Christians should not promote sin and sinning. That is a consistent message throughout the New Testament. There are dark reasons why those involved in sexual perversion try with all their might to normalize and popularize their behaviors. A study of how immorality spreads (going from bad to worse) and we are seeing the final stages played out in our society now. This is nothing new in the history of mankind, in and outside of the Bible.

 

[LittleNipper]

well i work with someone that is homosexual and i really consider him a good friend! he is such a nice person and is always willing to help me out when needed! well here is the thing....he will be getting married next year, actually a few weeks after me, well i don't really know if its considered a marriage or whatever to men getting married is.

my question to everyone is should i go to this wedding because he is a good friend or should i not because it would be considered supporting that lifestyle (which i do not). im just torn because he is a great friend and i don't want to hurt his feelings by not going.

i know that this is not for a year but ever since he told me he was getting married this question has been eating away at me. any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!

I would study the scriptures and pray for guidance from GOD. Some might consider going to the reception only. Personally, if this guy is really someone you care about and is your friend, I would be totally honest with him, but tell him privately (a public display serves only gossips). Don't make up some lame excuse. He should respect your decision more if you are totally above board. Witness to him, and allow the HOLY SPIRIT to speak through you. You are a much better friend if you are totally honest then if you are insincere or act cowardly. Do not expect things to be peachy. He may get very upset and could call you all sorts of things (might even throw you out). Understand that he is hurt but that your and his relationship to the LORD is far more important than temporal happiness or even his relationship with you.

Time has a way to shed light on the truth, and if this man is a true friend he will eventually understand your feelings/beliefs and see that your intent is not a threat but a concern for his eternity and your biblical witness. If not, then how much of a friend could he truly be, if only a fair weather friend.

 

[Beanieboy]

ok, everyone is trying to compare sins...a sin is a sin wether it is lieing or killing, in God's eyes it is the same thing! yes publicly many of them are seen very differently. you wont go to jail for telling a lie...well not usually! im not trying to go to say that i support homosexuality. i do not support abortion but im not going to disown someone because they have had an abortion. i have always been taught hate the sin not the sinner. i try and love all of my brothers and sisters the same, believer or non believer.

Would you go with your friend to get an abortion is you didn't believe in it? Would your friend want you to go with them to get an abortion, knowing that you don't support them?

If I were to have an abortion, I wouldn't want you to come for emotional support, because I would know that you didn't support what I was doing.

Again, would you have wanted me to come to your wedding, bring my partner who obviously was against it, and I seemed unusually quiet and uncomfortable about it, because neither of us approved?

Why would you then, in turn, want to do that to your friend?

Tell him you problem: You don't support gay marriage, but you are his friend, and your wife is completely against it. See what he says.

Personally, I wouldn't want you there, nor would I really call you my friend.

 

[Dena Denise]

If you are invited, you buy a nice gift & go to his wedding because you are supporting your FRIEND. It doesn't mean you are condoning a gay lifestyle. It means you are a thoughtful & well mannered person who is sensitive to the feelings of others. To not attend if invited would hurt his feelings. Does this nice man deserve to have his feelings hurt? Would HE do that to YOU? Then why should you do that to him? He will STILL be gay whether you go or not & so you will not have accomplished a darn thing.

This only applies if you are invited of course. LOL

But if you are invited & refuse on the grounds that he is gay, are you going to tell him this? That its because he is gay? Or just make up an excuse not to go? Just curious.

 

[bshoe421]

If you are invited, you buy a nice gift & go to his wedding because you are supporting your FRIEND. It doesn't mean you are condoning a gay lifestyle. It means you are a thoughtful & well mannered person who is sensitive to the feelings of others. To not attend if invited would hurt his feelings. Does this nice man deserve to have his feelings hurt? Would HE do that to YOU? Then why should you do that to him? He will STILL be gay whether you go or not & so you will not have accomplished a darn thing.

This only applies if you are invited of course. LOL

This really is pretty much how i feel about it!

 

[Polycarp_fan]

But if you are invited & refuse on the grounds that he is gay, are you going to tell him this? That its because he is gay? Or just make up an excuse not to go? Just curious.

No differant than if this was a marriage hosted by Diana worshippers. A Christian should not go.

From Peter:

"For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.

They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you."

 

[quatona]

I remember the bible telling that Jesus had no problem hanging around with people who did "what pagans choose to do".

 

[Beanieboy]

If you are invited, you buy a nice gift & go to his wedding because you are supporting your FRIEND. It doesn't mean you are condoning a gay lifestyle. It means you are a thoughtful & well mannered person who is sensitive to the feelings of others. To not attend if invited would hurt his feelings. Does this nice man deserve to have his feelings hurt? Would HE do that to YOU? Then why should you do that to him? He will STILL be gay whether you go or not & so you will not have accomplished a darn thing.

This only applies if you are invited of course. LOL

But if you are invited & refuse on the grounds that he is gay, are you going to tell him this? That its because he is gay? Or just make up an excuse not to go? Just curious.

I think it is dishonest to go to a gay wedding and by being their, claim to support your friend, while not supporting gay marriage. It's not even logical.

I went to my friend's Passover Sabat. I'm not Jewish, but I care about her. She knows that I'm not Jewish, but as a Buddhist, I believe that there is more than one path to God. I approached it with the same reverence that a Jewish person would.

However, if I were Christian, and had a serious issue with the fact that she denied my Saviour as God, I think it would be hypocritical to go to the Sabbat, especially if she was unaware of my strong feelings against her denial of Jesus. I could go and pretend that I didn't have a problem. I could go and support her as a friend, but the support would be false. The entire time, I would be thinking about how it wasn't a "real" worship, because it disagreed with mine, and how my "support" is that I am simply choosing not to say what I am thinking.


If you are a true friend, I would tell your friend that you don't approve of gay marriage, so you aren't sure whether you should go, or whether he would want you there in the first place. Then, you can make it his decision, since it is his wedding.

 

[Beanieboy]

well i work with someone that is homosexual and i really consider him a good friend! he is such a nice person and is always willing to help me out when needed! well here is the thing....he will be getting married next year, actually a few weeks after me, well i don't really know if its considered a marriage or whatever to men getting married is.

This is what I mean. Tell your friend, "I'm not sure what to do, since I don't approve of the gay lifestyle, and I don't know if its considered a marriage or whatever to men getting married is."

Then, he understands. If you were my friend, but used air quotes, saying things, like "Are you excited about you "marriage" or whatever you people are calling it these days", I wouldn't call you my friend, and probably ask you if you would like it if I made light of your "Marriage" where you "vow" to care for each "til death do you part", which basically means, until you get divorced.

If I found out someone, who I thought was a friend, didn't take my marriage seriously, I would be extremely offended and hurt for not knowing upfront, and would probably never want to talk to them again, because that would seriously damage my trust in them.

 

[dlamberth]

well i work with someone that is homosexual and i really consider him a good friend! he is such a nice person and is always willing to help me out when needed! well here is the thing....he will be getting married next year, actually a few weeks after me, well i don't really know if its considered a marriage or whatever to men getting married is.

my question to everyone is should i go to this wedding because he is a good friend or should i not because it would be considered supporting that lifestyle (which i do not). im just torn because he is a great friend and i don't want to hurt his feelings by not going.

i know that this is not for a year but ever since he told me he was getting married this question has been eating away at me. any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!

If you receive an invitation, be humble, loving and compassionate and go to the wedding. It's way more important to support your friend than it is your own fears. Supporting your friend does not necessarily mean that you support his lifestyle. You can't do anything about his life style. Yet you can do things to support your friend. And that's what's most important.

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[Rajni]

well i work with someone that is homosexual and i really consider him a good friend! he is such a nice person and is always willing to help me out when needed! well here is the thing....he will be getting married next year, actually a few weeks after me, well i don't really know if its considered a marriage or whatever to men getting married is.

my question to everyone is should i go to this wedding because he is a good friend or should i not because it would be considered supporting that lifestyle (which i do not). im just torn because he is a great friend and i don't want to hurt his feelings by not going.

i know that this is not for a year but ever since he told me he was getting married this question has been eating away at me. any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!

This is a tough one. Personally, I would sooner attend a gay wedding than one involving heterosexual Christians who have previously divorced and are now marrying someone else.



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[Beanieboy]

btw- sorry if I came off snarky. The fact that it is struggle at all shows that you have a good heart, and I appreciate that. There was a family tragedy this weekend, so I might sound harsher than I mean to be.

 

[bshoe421]

btw- sorry if I came off snarky. The fact that it is struggle at all shows that you have a good heart, and I appreciate that. There was a family tragedy this weekend, so I might sound harsher than I mean to be.

No worries! Im sorry to hear that! Hope everything is alright!

 

[Beanieboy]

No worries! Im sorry to hear that! Hope everything is alright!

Thanks. They are dealing with it (death).

However, since I was home for the funeral, I had some time to think. I don't even think that I would want a family member at a marriage of my partner if they were against gay marriage, didn't think two men getting married was "marriage" at all, or didn't take it seriously, the same way I wouldn't want them there if I was marrying a woman, and they didn't take it seriously, approve, etc, for whatever reason. I would want the gifts (straight people owe me big time.)

I would tell you friend the honest dilema that you are having. It is probably going to tax your friendship, but at least he will understand where you stand, and then you can work it out from there.

 

[WhatThe]

btw- sorry if I came off snarky. The fact that it is struggle at all shows that you have a good heart, and I appreciate that. There was a family tragedy this weekend, so I might sound harsher than I mean to be.

Sorry to hear about it BB

 

[Polycarp_fan]

This is a tough one. Personally, I would sooner attend a gay wedding than one involving heterosexual Christians who have previously divorced and are now marrying someone else.

How many times was it that Jesus said we are to forgive our brothers (and sisters)?

I have met many, many "divorced Christians" and every single one of them was broken and contrite about their "SIN", their adultery. I know that no Church I have ever been in will except an unrepentant couple be considered "married." They are considered to have a civil union and are held in that regard. Except, of course, the ones that were the victims of an adulterous spouse. They have nothing to repent of.

I've also never seen an Adultery Pride Parade.

From Peter:

"For you have spent enough time in the past doing what pagans choose to do—living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.

They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you."

And as we can see throughout the New Testament, if you DO engage once again in the aforementioned behaviors, there is an Advocate awaiting a contrite heart.

Let's here from the king of infamous adultery himself on that:

Psalm 51

When the prophet Nathan came to him after David had committed adultery with Bathsheba.

Have mercy on me, O God,
according to your unfailing love;
according to your great compassion
blot out my transgressions.

Wash away all my iniquity
and cleanse me from my sin.

For I know my transgressions,
and my sin is always before me.

Against you, you only, have I sinned
and done what is evil in your sight,
so that you are proved right when you speak
and justified when you judge.

Surely I was sinful at birth,
sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Surely you desire truth in the inner parts;
you teach me wisdom in the inmost place.

Cleanse me with hyssop, and I will be clean;
wash me, and I will be whiter than snow.

Let me hear joy and gladness;
let the bones you have crushed rejoice.


Hide your face from my sins
and blot out all my iniquity.
Create in me a pure heart, O God,
and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

Do not cast me from your presence
or take your Holy Spirit from me.

Restore to me the joy of your salvation
and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me.

Then I will teach transgressors your ways,
and sinners will turn back to you.

Save me from bloodguilt, O God,
the God who saves me,
and my tongue will sing of your righteousness.

O Lord, open my lips,
and my mouth will declare your praise.

You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it;
you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings.

The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit;
a broken and contrite heart,
O God, you will not despise.

(In your good pleasure make Zion prosper;
build up the walls of Jerusalem.

Then there will be righteous sacrifices,
whole burnt offerings to delight you;
then bulls will be offered on your altar.)

 

[Beanieboy]

Yyyyyyeah, and all of that has to do with the OP and his dilema because....?

 

[HannahBanana]

btw- sorry if I came off snarky. The fact that it is struggle at all shows that you have a good heart, and I appreciate that. There was a family tragedy this weekend, so I might sound harsher than I mean to be.

I know we've never talked before, but I just wanted to offer my condolences. I hope you're doing okay emotionally.

 

[HannahBanana]

How many times was it that Jesus said we are to forgive our brothers (and sisters)?

Many, many times. Which is why it makes such little sense to me that you're so harsh and unforgiving towards homosexuals.

I have met many, many "divorced Christians" and every single one of them was broken and contrite about their "SIN", their adultery. I know that no Church I have ever been in will except an unrepentant couple be considered "married." They are considered to have a civil union and are held in that regard. Except, of course, the ones that were the victims of an adulterous spouse. They have nothing to repent of.

And this has what to do with homosexuality, exactly? Also, have you ever considered the fact that divorce is extremely hard to deal with, emotionally, for most people, which might be why all of the divorced Christians that you met were "broken and contrite." I mean, who are you to say that they were "broken and contrite" just because what they did was a sin?

I've also never seen an Adultery Pride Parade.

That's because adultery harms others, while homosexuality does nothing of the sort. Therefore, adulterers should not be proud of what they've done, while homosexuals have every right to be proud of who they are.

From Peter:

And where exactly in that passage did he mention homosexuality?

And as we can see throughout the New Testament, if you DO engage once again in the aforementioned behaviors, there is an Advocate awaiting a contrite heart.

Let's here from the king of infamous adultery himself on that:

Again, adultery has nothing to do with homosexuality. So basically you're comparing apples and oranges here (either that or you're going off on some odd tangent).