Homosexual dileverence is possible!

[SilentShout]

Sexual abuse = Confusion. I was confused. Gays are confused! Don't tell me I'm wrong, when I know that I am not. And only God knows who's going to hell, you should let him decide. As for me, sorry I wasn't straight.

 

[davedjy]

Well, there is absolutely no way to change your sexual orientation, so it must've been some psychology move.

Even the poster boys for Exodus International and that other one Deserts something that "claimed to be healed" went back into the "homosexual lifestyle".

You saying you got healed, doesn't prove much to this conversation, esp. when the ex gay ministries cannot pony up any $ evidence $ that anyone was healed, just examples of everyone leaving depressed or suicidal, and fake, scam testimonies on their website.

 

[davedjy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f78pA8jsRvE

Further proof that you don't know of what you speak.

 

[SilentShout]

You have a lot of hate in your heart, when all I am trying to do is tell you my story. I KNOW WHAT I SPEAK OF. Please stop telling me this. I don't like Exodus, Nor any other "Ex Gay Ministry" because they are clearly in it for the money. And yes, It was a psychological move. Your heart is just so hardened that you have it in your mind you cannot change. Did I change in one night? Of course not! It took a long time. But it was God's will. I don't know what this 'church' it is you go to, but they need to start actually preaching the Bible, and not lies. Thanks and thats all I have to say. I am praying for you. I'm obviously leaving because you are trying to start arguments, and I will not argue with you. God will do what God will do with you, it's totally out of my hands. But honestly if I was back in your position, so confused and obviously godless. I would be pretty scared.

Have a nice day.

 

[davedjy]

You have a lot of hate in your heart, when all I am trying to do is tell you my story. I KNOW WHAT I SPEAK OF. Please stop telling me this. I don't like Exodus, Nor any other "Ex Gay Ministry" because they are clearly in it for the money. And yes, It was a psychological move. Your heart is just so hardened that you have it in your mind you cannot change. Did I change in one night? Of course not! It took a long time. But it was God's will. I don't know what this 'church' it is you go to, but they need to start actually preaching the Bible, and not lies. Thanks and thats all I have to say. I am praying for you. I'm obviously leaving because you are trying to start arguments, and I will not argue with you. God will do what God will do with you, it's totally out of my hands. But honestly if I was back in your position, so confused and obviously godless. I would be pretty scared.

Have a nice day.

God has already dealt with me. He accepts me and the other gays on this site and loves us unconditionally. Furthermore, He created our sexual orientations, and He is a God of radical diversity.

Even if you were "healed" that does not make any claim.

You are 16 and you have heard of Exodus and other gay ministries and your post count is 10? LOL

 

[savedandhappy1]

Yes, He also wouldn't quote biased translations of Scriptures... I'm sure He also wouldn't call gay sexual relations in "abomination", esp. after knowing how many OTHER physically unclean things were an abomination in Leviticus...

One sin being an abomination doesn't make another sin less and/or not an abomination.

That would be like saying that even tho the scriptures say murders, liars, idolitry, adultery, etc., will not inherit the Kingdom of God, and murder is the worst of the things listed that God doesn't really mean it on the other things in the list.

Unless something, like the shellfish in the OT, and the no meat is unclean in the NT is found then what was an abomination in the OT is in the NT. To make it even clearer and to have no misunderstanding on this issue it was spoke of in both testaments, but we have done been down this road.
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[davedjy]

One sin being an abomination doesn't make another sin less and/or not an abomination.

That would be like saying that even tho the scriptures say murders, liars, idolitry, adultery, etc., will not inherit the Kingdom of God, and murder is the worst of the things listed that God doesn't really mean it on the other things in the list.

Unless something, like the shellfish in the OT, and the no meat is unclean in the NT is found then what was an abomination in the OT is in the NT. To make it even clearer and to have no misunderstanding on this issue it was spoke of in both testaments, but we have done been down this road.
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Again, you have not proved this to be a sin. There is no mention of "homosexuality" in the bible in the original Hebrew and Greek language. Read my Leviticus 18 thread, it was pagan orgy/ritual that was condemned, otherwise there would've been a word used for lesbians.

Again, you have not proved that this is a sin, and also on the claim that one that only has attraction towards men and not women being gay, proves it is an orientation, not some "sinful desire".

 

[HisKid1973]

How about showing me where He blessed, affirmed and encouraged men laying with men or women laying with women. Or wasn't it valid back them..

 

[davedjy]

How about showing me where He blessed, affirmed and encouraged men laying with men or women laying with women. Or wasn't it valid back them..

do some reasearch, please! I cannot keep responding to one thousand threads.