Homosexual Debate Forum age restrictions ?

[Bianca87]

Sorry but "the tolerance movement" is no different than the world. And yes fundamentalism = Christianity, without it all Christianity is a tradition.

no mate, it's a faith.
let's just say we have two different religions ok? it's just a matter of names.
with Christianity i mean the belief and faith in Jesus as the son of God, you mean fundamentalism...fine. let's just call them X and Y for clarity's sake.

 

[ReformedChapin]

no mate, it's a faith.
let's just say we have two different religions ok? it's just a matter of names.
with Christianity i mean the belief and faith in Jesus as the son of God, you mean fundamentalism...fine. let's just call them X and Y for clarity's sake.

You must have faith in the right things. Faith in the trinue God which is represented in the scriptures. Without them you cannot justify the faith in the first place.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

He is talking to Timothy in that verse, nice one. I told you already, take a hermanutics course. I can suggest several online courses which will help a lot in your biblical understanding.

Alright. By that logic, Paul was ONLY telling that single church they can't be gay, seeing as all his writings are letters. Meaning homosexuality is completely okay!

Thank you for agreeing with us!

 

[Brieuse]

Ditto, I really hated it when some whiner would post that people like me are the reason why they are not Christian, and they reason why they are going to hell, and I don't care about their souls.

Haven't you wondered why they say it?

 

[ReformedChapin]

Alright. By that logic, Paul was ONLY telling that single church they can't be gay, seeing as all his writings are letters. Meaning homosexuality is completely okay!

Thank you for agreeing with us!

No, by my logic you must see what verse addresses every believer and what verse address a specific individual. That's why any hs graduate knows that one must read every text in context. Now that we are talking about logic, take a logic course as well...man you need to take a lot of courses.

Thank you for proving me right again.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Haven't you wondered why they say it?

the refusal of homosexuals to repent of their sin?

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

No, by my logic you must see what verse addresses every believer and what verse address a specific individual. That's why any hs graduate knows that one must read every text in context.

Thank you for proving my right again.

Sounds to me like some serious hypocrisy. That particular verse is addressed to all youth, not just Timothy, as were most of Paul's letters. Sounds like YOU'RE just picking and choosing in an attempt to use age as an excuse to put me down.

Actually, I'm almost positive of that. Since I saw a gal use that verse too DEFEND you. I didn't see you crying about how it only applied to Timothy then.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Sounds to me like some serious hypocrisy. That particular verse is addressed to all youth, not just Timothy, as were most of Paul's letters. Sounds like YOU'RE just picking and choosing in an attempt to use age as an excuse to put me down.

Actually, I'm almost positive of that. Since I saw a gal use that verse too DEFEND you. I didn't see you crying about how it only applied to Timothy then.

Read the whole Book in context. This book is written by Paul to address Timothy in how to handle different Church issues. You can see that in the beginning of the book when Paul says in the first book


Salutation

1:1 From Paul, 1 an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savior 2 and of Christ Jesus our hope, 1:2 to Timothy, my genuine child in the faith. Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord!

1:3 As I urged you when I was leaving for Macedonia, stay on in Ephesus 3 to instruct 4 certain people not to spread false teachings, 5 1:4 nor to occupy themselves with myths and interminable genealogies. 6 Such things promote useless speculations rather than God’s redemptive plan 7 that operates by faith. 1:5 But the aim of our instruction 8 is love that comes from a pure heart, a good conscience, and a sincere faith. 9 1:6 Some have strayed from these and turned away to empty discussion. 1:7 They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not understand what they are saying or the things they insist on so confidently.

1:18 I put this charge 25 before you, Timothy my child, in keeping with the prophecies once spoken about you, 26 in order that with such encouragement 27 you may fight the good fight. 1:19 To do this 28 you must hold firmly to faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and so have suffered shipwreck in regard to the faith. 1:20 Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I handed over to Satan 29 to be taught not to blaspheme.

You can see through the book, how paul instructs timothy to conduct himself in his ministry.

5:1 Do not address an older man harshly 1 but appeal to him as a father. Speak to younger men as brothers, 2 5:2 older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters – with complete purity.

Of course all of this principles also apply to the general crowd since the gosple comamnds respect. But paul wouldn't have put any young idiot in charge, especially one that practices sin.

1:8 But we know that the law is good if someone uses it legitimately, 1:9 realizing that law 11 is not intended for a righteous person, but for lawless and rebellious people, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 1:10 sexually immoral people, practicing homosexuals, 12 kidnappers, liars, perjurers – in fact, for any who live contrary to sound teaching. 1:11 This 13 accords with the glorious gospel of the blessed God 14 that was entrusted to me

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Read the whole Book in context. This book is written by Paul to address Timothy in how to handle different Church issues. You can see that in the beginning of the book when Paul says in the first book


Salutation







You can see through the book, how paul instructs timothy to conduct himself in his ministry.



Of course all of this principles also apply to the general crowd since the gosple comamnds respect. But paul wouldn't have put any young idiot in charge, especially one that practices sin.

So was the letter in Romans. It was written to the Christians in Rome, not neccesarily all Christians. And you realize that when you read it in context.

I also notice you never pointed out the context of that ONE verse. Probably because it didn't agree with you eh? Also I can't help but notice that personal attack. You're getting sloppy. Admit for once that you're just hating. First for homosexuality, and now you're saying I'm an idiot or that being young makes me default for idiot unless I'm chosen by some great apostle?

In case you haven't noticed, you're not that much older than I am. You haven't made it past the bar that lets you decide seniority over me since you can't be my father: only an older brother maybe.

 

[ReformedChapin]

So was the letter in Romans. It was written to the Christians in Rome, not neccesarily all Christians. And you realize that when you read it in context.

I also notice you never pointed out the context of that ONE verse. Probably because it didn't agree with you eh? Also I can't help but notice that personal attack. You're getting sloppy. Admit for once that you're just hating. First for homosexuality, and now you're saying I'm an idiot or that being young makes me default for idiot unless I'm chosen by some great apostle?

In case you haven't noticed, you're not that much older than I am. You haven't made it past the bar that lets you decide seniority over me since you can't be my father: only an older brother maybe.

Again take a hermanutics course, one must realize that some statements trancedent truths while others address individuals.

And I know I'm no much older than you, you just need to take courses so you know what the heck you are talking about. Whether you're an idiot or not is not up to my to decide. Just support your statements with logic and depending on the budern of proof with evidence.

 

[*Starlight*]

Sorry but "the tolerance movement" is no different than the world.

This doesn't make sense... Tolerance movement is about accepting people even though they are different than you. And the world is our planet and everything on it...

And yes fundamentalism = Christianity, without it all Christianity is a tradition.

Fundamentalism is one of the many forms of Christianity.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Again take a hermanutics course, one must realize that some statements trancedent truths while others address individuals.

And I know I'm no much older than you, you just need to take courses so you know what the heck you are talking about. Whether you're an idiot or not is not up to my to decide. Just support your statements with logic and depending on the budern of proof with evidence.

I don't believe you're on too talk about evidence. I've never seen you quote any evidence besides "Well the Bible says so". I on the other hand TRY to explain it. Not just say "Nope, I'm right."

Also, it's too late. You've already called me an idiot or at the very least insulted me as such.

 

[Bianca87]

You must have faith in the right things. Faith in the trinue God which is represented in the scriptures. Without them you cannot justify the faith in the first place.

with the right things being what you believe in?
i don't need to justify my faith...faith cannot be justified or explained, it's irrational by definition.

 

[david_x]

This doesn't make sense... Tolerance movement is about accepting people even though they are different than you. And the world is our planet and everything on it...

The world is a reference to the bible. It pretty much just means what the majority of sinners think.

 

[eolculnamo2]

Now hold on, Just because I'm under 18 doesn't mean I'm not a baptized believer that's apart of the body of Christ. I strongly disagree with age restrictions.


1 Timothy 4:12
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity.

This is not only a message to the younger, but to the older as well. Let the younger people, like myself, give their input.

If revisions are needed to be made, then let them be that if anyone acts inappropriately in these forums, they can be banned from then.

The Bible talks strongly about the abilities of the youth.
Just because someone is young doesn't make them foolish.

Ecclesiastes 4:13
Better a poor but wise youth than an old but foolish king who no longer knows how to take warning.

If the youth aren't allowed to fight for what they believe now, what will make them want to ever fight.

Paul, an apostle of Christ and a very important man, asked Timothy this:

2 Timothy 2:3:
Suffer hardship with me, as a good soldier of Christ Jesus.
He invited him to be a soldier of Christ even though he was young. To not let younger people participate would be a very, very big mistake.

Maybe some compromise could be arranged before this happened.

I know you'll block me, but consider what you do before you do it. It's not right to judge somone based on gender or race, why age?

 

[david_x]

Age has no bearing in the church. There are young people that know more about the bible then some of the very old people.

 

[imind]

Yes, they aren't trained or mature enough to handle these though issues (unless in special cases).

neither are some of the 'adults'.

I strongly disagree, especially with the lack of rational arguments

lol. the only rational arguement blames liberals for something or other.

No, because that does not break the rules. Lying about your age and denomination are against forum rules and the agreement with CF.

regardless of the rules, its still disingenuous.

For the most point, I no longer even post on a thread that is more than 30 posts long because of the degradent nature of the personal attacks from the homosexual community here.

you're 'attacked' by both the gay and straight community here, and deservedly so.

But that's beside the point that this isn't about debating but about God's truth.

and gods truth is supposed to be conveyed with self righteousness, pride, and arrogance?

Gay Christian is an oxymoron, that's like saying a killer Christian.

lol. not any more so than considering you a christian.

And yes fundamentalism = Christianity, without it all Christianity is a tradition.

funny then to consider all the different manifestations of fundamentalism over the years. yet yours is 'the best'!!

 

[Kimberlyn]

I am becoming more and more alarmed about the number of minors posting on sexual inuendo and controversial debates on this forum.

Some of the personal information and input they offer is really inappropriate.

I am going to add any under 18 who posts here on my ignore list and hope CF decides to look into this and revise the rules.

Now hold on just a minute! So, you're assuming that anyone under the age of 18 is going to post questionable things? I'm fifteen years old, and i love Jesus with all of my heart, and i would never post anything like what you're saying. A fifty year old is just as capable of posting suggestive and inapropriate things on here as a teenager, and i'm sure many of them do. Why not just take care of those who have posted bad things instead of depriving all young people of an opportunity to speak out on what they believe?

I'm sure you already know 1 Timothy 4:12.

 

[Kimberlyn]

Now hold on, Just because I'm under 18 doesn't mean I'm not a baptized believer that's apart of the body of Christ. I strongly disagree with age restrictions.


1 Timothy 4:12
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity.

This is not only a message to the younger, but to the older as well. Let the younger people, like myself, give their input.

If revisions are needed to be made, then let them be that if anyone acts inappropriately in these forums, they can be banned from then.

The Bible talks strongly about the abilities of the youth.
Just because someone is young doesn't make them foolish.

Ecclesiastes 4:13
Better a poor but wise youth than an old but foolish king who no longer knows how to take warning.

If the youth aren't allowed to fight for what they believe now, what will make them want to ever fight.

Paul, an apostle of Christ and a very important man, asked Timothy this:

2 Timothy 2:3:
Suffer hardship with me, as a good soldier of Christ Jesus.
He invited him to be a soldier of Christ even though he was young. To not let younger people participate would be a very, very big mistake.

Maybe some compromise could be arranged before this happened.

I know you'll block me, but consider what you do before you do it. It's not right to judge somone based on gender or race, why age?

Yep...I think you about covered it.

 

[BAFRIEND]

Yep...I think you about covered it.

Except that you forgot the part about the fact that alot of parents would not appreciate adult strangers speaking to their kids about sex and homosexuality online and that in some jurisdictions you can be charged with a felony for it.

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!"

He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.

2KINGS.