Homosexual behavior due to genetics and environmental factors

[Washington]

'Writing in the scientific journal Archives of Sexual Behavior, researchers from Queen Mary's School of Biological and Chemical Sciences, and Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm report that genetics and environmental factors (which are specific to an individual, and may include biological processes such as different hormone exposure in the womb), are important determinants of homosexual behaviour.

Dr Qazi Rahman, study co-author and a leading scientist on human sexual orientation, explains: "This study puts cold water on any concerns that we are looking for a single 'gay gene' or a single environmental variable which could be used to 'select out' homosexuality - the factors which influence sexual orientation are complex. And we are not simply talking about homosexuality here - heterosexual behaviour is also influenced by a mixture of genetic and environmental factors.

This study looked at 3,826 same-gender twin pairs (7,652 individuals), who were asked about the total numbers of opposite sex and same sex partners they had ever had. The findings showed that 35 per cent of the differences between men in same-sex behaviour (that is, that some men have no same sex partners, and some have one or more) is accounted for by genetics. Rahman explains:

"Overall, genetics accounted for around 35 per cent of the differences between men in homosexual behaviour and other individual-specific environmental factors (that is, not societal attitudes, family or parenting which are shared by twins) accounted for around 64 per cent. In other words, men become gay or straight because of different developmental pathways, not just one pathway."

For women, genetics explained roughly 18 per cent of the variation in same-sex behaviour, non-shared environment roughly 64 per cent and shared factors, or the family environment, explained 16 per cent.
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[JT912]

I don't care what scientists have found or think they have found but to suggest that certain harmones in the womb causes homosexual behavior is completely ludacris. Any form of sexual perversion is the work of satan because that is what he does. He takes the precious things of God and perverts it. It is a perversion number one and number 2 it is a spiritual problem not biological. It is impossible because there has never, since time started on earth been such a thing as a homosexual gene. People aren't born with it, it is there choice usually due to some kind of abuse in their childhood which I mind you opens doors for satan to come in and attack oppress or even possess a person if they don't know Jesus. Please don't believe that nonsense. I don't have all the answers and I won't claim too, but let those with worldly thinking believe that God forbid the elect!

 

[Washington]

What you don't care is not relevant to the OP.

Your opinion of homosexuality is not relevant to the OP.

Your lack of answers is not relevant to the OP.

 

[Caylin]

I don't care what scientists have found or think they have found but to suggest that certain harmones in the womb causes homosexual behavior is completely ludacris. Any form of sexual perversion is the work of satan because that is what he does. He takes the precious things of God and perverts it. It is a perversion number one and number 2 it is a spiritual problem not biological. It is impossible because there has never, since time started on earth been such a thing as a homosexual gene. People aren't born with it, it is there choice usually due to some kind of abuse in their childhood which I mind you opens doors for satan to come in and attack oppress or even possess a person if they don't know Jesus. Please don't believe that nonsense. I don't have all the answers and I won't claim too, but let those with worldly thinking believe that God forbid the elect!

Is your spelling and grammar caused by satan or genetics?

 

[onemessiah]

I don't care what scientists have found or think they have found but to suggest that certain harmones in the womb causes homosexual behavior is completely ludacris. Any form of sexual perversion is the work of satan because that is what he does. He takes the precious things of God and perverts it. It is a perversion number one and number 2 it is a spiritual problem not biological. It is impossible because there has never, since time started on earth been such a thing as a homosexual gene. People aren't born with it, it is there choice usually due to some kind of abuse in their childhood which I mind you opens doors for satan to come in and attack oppress or even possess a person if they don't know Jesus. Please don't believe that nonsense. I don't have all the answers and I won't claim too, but let those with worldly thinking believe that God forbid the elect!

Okay, we'll take your opinion over scientific research...

 

[KCKID]

I don't care what scientists have found or think they have found but to suggest that certain harmones in the womb causes homosexual behavior is completely ludacris. Any form of sexual perversion is the work of satan because that is what he does. He takes the precious things of God and perverts it. It is a perversion number one and number 2 it is a spiritual problem not biological. It is impossible because there has never, since time started on earth been such a thing as a homosexual gene. People aren't born with it, it is there choice usually due to some kind of abuse in their childhood which I mind you opens doors for satan to come in and attack oppress or even possess a person if they don't know Jesus. Please don't believe that nonsense. I don't have all the answers and I won't claim too, but let those with worldly thinking believe that God forbid the elect!

(Yawn)

 

[Aerika]

Interesting, especially the variances in the statistics between male and female.

genetics accounted for around 35 per cent of the differences between men in homosexual behaviour

For women, genetics explained roughly 18 per cent of the variation in same-sex behaviour

I think it reinforces or suggests :

"The bottom line is that chromosomal constitution does not determine gender: the fact of being predominantly XY does not necessarily obligate a person to be male."

Gender, it seems, is more arbitrary than we may want to think it is, and the components that make up our definitions of "girl" and "boy" are far more complex than it would first appear. At conception, the human embryo is completely "bipotential" so far as its reproductive and sexual future is concerned. It is, essentially, a blank slate, and the simplest, most passive series of events will result in a girl. In other words, formation of female organs and genitalia seems to be a sort of default mode, whereas male differentiation requires active changes at several key steps in the process. The first of these occurs at two to three weeks of gestation, when the influence of the SRY gene locus (also known as testes-determining factor), which is found on the Y chromosome, will cause male gonads to form. In the absence of the SRY gene, those very same cells will start the process of becoming ovaries.



A fetus can veer from a "normal" course of development at any stage. One could, for instance, respond to the SRY gene but fail to produce MIS, resulting in a situation where both testicles and fallopian tubes form. There have been cases throughout history in which babies were born with classic hermaphroditism-that is, possessing both female and male reproductive organs and secondary sexual characteristics. But it is more common for disjunction to occur at a new phase of development so there is complete congruity of gender up to a specific point.

the womb also plays a role.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/153258/the_second_question/index.html

It's an interesting read.

 

[Maren]

I don't care what scientists have found or think they have found but to suggest that certain harmones in the womb causes homosexual behavior is completely ludacris. Any form of sexual perversion is the work of satan because that is what he does. He takes the precious things of God and perverts it. It is a perversion number one and number 2 it is a spiritual problem not biological. It is impossible because there has never, since time started on earth been such a thing as a homosexual gene. People aren't born with it, it is there choice usually due to some kind of abuse in their childhood which I mind you opens doors for satan to come in and attack oppress or even possess a person if they don't know Jesus. Please don't believe that nonsense. I don't have all the answers and I won't claim too, but let those with worldly thinking believe that God forbid the elect!

I think you should rethink trying to learn science from a book that claims insects have 4 legs (Leviticus 11:20-23).

 

[KCKID]

I think you should rethink trying to learn science from a book that claims insects have 4 legs (Leviticus 11:20-23).

But surely, that was just a typo by the Levitican author, wasn't it?

 

[Bootstrap]

But surely, that was just a typo by the Levitican author, wasn't it?

I think "on all fours" is just a fixed expression. In English, people can walk "on all fours" even though we don't have four legs.

I'm pretty sure that people who regularly ate insects were familiar with them and knew how to count legs.

Jonathan

 

[Drwhat]

Hi,
there yet could well turn out to be a genetic trait in some people [especially in the entertainment business,lol] towards being homosexual, heck some guys seem to like killing, just ask a president or fifty. However if your doing your best as a commited Christian to sin less then an acting homosexual should start cleaning up there act and acting much less. Just like a hetrosexual person fornacating, or the act of fantasy in touching yourself, it's all sin. That's what we do as people, we sin and were all good at it even the sin of telling other's that we don't sin, there's plenty who do that they are commonly called Christians but they shouldn't be kinda like that filthy rich computor boss of a famous company being called a sucess.

 

[Aerika]

I think "on all fours" is just a fixed expression. In English, people can walk "on all fours" even though we don't have four legs.

I'm pretty sure that people who regularly ate insects were familiar with them and knew how to count legs.

Jonathan

No, by the time of Leviticus, they were civilized and sacrificing animals.

 

[imind]

I don't care what scientists have found or think they have found but to suggest that certain harmones in the womb causes homosexual behavior is completely ludacris. Any form of sexual perversion is the work of satan because that is what he does. He takes the precious things of God and perverts it. It is a perversion number one and number 2 it is a spiritual problem not biological. It is impossible because there has never, since time started on earth been such a thing as a homosexual gene. People aren't born with it, it is there choice usually due to some kind of abuse in their childhood which I mind you opens doors for satan to come in and attack oppress or even possess a person if they don't know Jesus. Please don't believe that nonsense. I don't have all the answers and I won't claim too, but let those with worldly thinking believe that God forbid the elect!

lol. never mind reality.

this is an example where faith can be dangerous. to close one's eyes to what actually is in favor of, and only becuase of, whats written in one's holy book. this is not a healthy faith, IMO.

 

[KCKID]

I don't care what scientists have found or think they have found but to suggest that certain harmones in the womb causes homosexual behavior is completely ludacris.

Facts please. And the word is 'ludicrous'.

Any form of sexual perversion is the work of satan because that is what he does. He takes the precious things of God and perverts it.

Facts please.

It is a perversion number one and number 2 it is a spiritual problem not biological.

Facts please.

It is impossible because there has never, since time started on earth been such a thing as a homosexual gene.

Facts please.

People aren't born with it, it is there choice usually due to some kind of abuse in their childhood which I mind you opens doors for satan to come in and attack oppress or even possess a person if they don't know Jesus.

Facts please. By the way, of the few homosexuals that I've met and known, NONE were abused as children.

Please don't believe that nonsense. I don't have all the answers and I won't claim too, but let those with worldly thinking believe that God forbid the elect!

You're real short on facts, JT912, and extremely long on biased opinion. Do you not realize that while you claim not to have all the answers you did in fact offer answers in all of your above statements? They were devoid of any facts but they were YOUR answers nevertheless.

No offense, but either put up or shut up on this matter. This is a very REAL issue to those whom homosexuality affects. Meaningless banter is just that.

 

[lawtonfogle]

I don't care what scientists have found or think they have found but to suggest that certain harmones in the womb causes homosexual behavior is completely ludacris. Any form of sexual perversion is the work of satan because that is what he does. He takes the precious things of God and perverts it. It is a perversion number one and number 2 it is a spiritual problem not biological. It is impossible because there has never, since time started on earth been such a thing as a homosexual gene. People aren't born with it, it is there choice usually due to some kind of abuse in their childhood which I mind you opens doors for satan to come in and attack oppress or even possess a person if they don't know Jesus. Please don't believe that nonsense. I don't have all the answers and I won't claim too, but let those with worldly thinking believe that God forbid the elect!

Yes, just like how Satan perverted the Bible. Most don't realize it, but it actually condemns heterosexuality. But Satan perverted that so that we would all believe that it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, and that homosexuality was condemned. Satan even perverted our genes so that we mush have some heterosexual relations to even survive. But we're about to have a break though. Defy Satan, support cloning and homosexual relationships.


Doesn't the "Blame Satan: You are allowed to blame Satan on you next move." card work so well?

 

[DMagoh]

I think you should rethink trying to learn science from a book that claims insects have 4 legs (Leviticus 11:20-23).

But surely, that was just a typo by the Levitican author, wasn't it?

[NOTE: Not a comment for the OP, just these two responders.]

So Maren & KCKID... regardless of what side of the debate anyone is on, what do you base your Christianity on if you think the Bible is full of errors and, just plain wrong about things. Did Christ really die and arise on the 3rd day? Or is that just that silly book again?

 

[KCKID]

[NOTE: Not a comment for the OP, just these two responders.]

So Maren & KCKID... regardless of what side of the debate anyone is on, what do you base your Christianity on if you think the Bible is full of errors and, just plain wrong about things. Did Christ really die and arise on the 3rd day? Or is that just that silly book again?

I meant to get back with you on this post previously, not that I have a whole lot to say.

I guess I base my Christianity on Jesus Christ (not a bad start, eh?) because I WANT so much to believe in Jesus and WHAT He represented. I don't care too much for the God of the Old Testament. As I've said before, I find it difficult to believe that God and Jesus are even related. I don't see a whole lot of demonstrated love by God but Jesus is another matter. I can't relate to God but I CAN relate to Jesus. Perhaps that's why He came in human form and lived amongst us mere mortals. I trust the Jesus of the Gospels even though I don't pretend to fully understand the meaning of it all. Perhaps one day I will but meanwhile it's a learning process for me. For 18 years I thought I pretty well knew it all. That's when I was baptized and afterward became quite a reasonable scholar of the Bible. Now I'm almost back to square one.

I suggest that 'Christianity' has confused so many people for so long that they have little CLUE as to what that belief system is all about any more ...that's if they ever did. I realize that we're all referred to as 'sheep' and Jesus as the Shepherd but that surely doesn't mean that we have to flounder around in some 'holy stupor' and turn off our brains in the process ...? And yet, no offense intended, but I find too many - certainly not all - of the 'anti-gay' posts to be almost robotic in content and devoid of any meaningful thought process. Many in fact are simply no more than an endless stream of repetetive scriptures (mere words) that don't address the REAL issue of homosexuality anyway.

As rhetorical as this might sound - and I know that it does - I believe that Christians need to concentrate on the 'love' aspect of being a 'Christ-follower' such as applying themselves to what Jesus asked of them. He NEVER commanded them to hate or criticize their homosexual brothers and sisters but He did command them to care for the poor, the wretched, the unloved, the unlovely, the least among us. I don't know if any homosexuals are among that list but they might be. It hardly matters since we're ALL worthy of love and respect and acceptance. Why should anyone even care that someone else might have a sexual attraction toward someone of the same gender? Which of the two has the problem?

I don't know where I am right now in my Christian walk ...floundering, perhaps, but mainly so because I have a reasoning mind and I continually question 'Christianity' per se. I don't understand where the 'anti-gay' Christians are coming from, for instance. I don't think like them at all. I've come to realize that one's Christian walk may be quite different from another's Christian walk.

Sorry I can't answer your question as academically as I would like, DM.

 

[Aerika]

[NOTE: Not a comment for the OP, just these two responders.]

So Maren & KCKID... regardless of what side of the debate anyone is on, what do you base your Christianity on if you think the Bible is full of errors and, just plain wrong about things. Did Christ really die and arise on the 3rd day? Or is that just that silly book again?

To be candid, Christ offered his salvation, sacrifice, and was ressureccted long before the New testement existed. I know of no reason to believe that God's salvation and sacrifice ( John 3 16 ) excludes those that question the accuracy of the Bible. In fact, why would you even need a belief in the New Testement at all to receive God's salvation?

 

[MarkSB]

It is impossible because there has never, since time started on earth been such a thing as a homosexual gene. People aren't born with it, it is there choice usually due to some kind of abuse in their childhood which I mind you opens doors for satan to come in and attack oppress or even possess a person if they don't know Jesus.

I agree that satan is a trickster, but in some ways I tend to think homosexuality is a sort of bondage. Pretty much any disorder or spiritual affliction involves a defect of character (ie genes) + some sort of environmental/social triggers.

For example, I am an alcoholic. I have an addictive personality, but I wasn't always a full-blown addict until I went through some hard times in gradeschool and started turning to the wrong places to 'solve' my problems. I've been told that once I started drinking it was almost inevitable that I would become an alcoholic. I was susceptible to it because of my personality, problems at home and other environmental triggers, ect. led to the addiction. This is not to say it wasn't my choice to drink and abuse the way I did, for that I hold myself accountable.

Now, I had this old friend from highschool. He always had a more feminine personality (he didn't act gay, he just talked kind of like a girl sometimes). When he was a kid his dad used to rough up his mom and he had to stand up for his mom most of the time. Some of my other friends have said that was when he 'started' to change. After highschool he dated a couple girls, few years ago found out he came out of the closet. Like you said, childhood abuse must've contributed to it. But I think the personality traits were there in the first place, it just took some environmental factors to bring them out. Of course, there has to be some sort of choice along the way I would think.

 

[JCFantasy23]

I believe it's likely genetic in some cases, it seems to run in my family.