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Can you help me find this quote I'm looking for by St. Francis Xavier, about believing whatever the Mother Church tells him, even if it's ~?
I know he's famous for sayin' somethin like give me a child until he's seven & ~.

I think you are thinking about the Ignatius of Loyola's comment which I'll paraphrase:

"I will see white when my eyes tell me I'm seeing black if the hierarchial mother church tells me to."
 
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I think you are thinking about the Ignatius of Loyola's comment which I'll paraphrase:

"I will see white when my eyes tell me I'm seeing black if the hierarchial mother church tells me to."


Much like Augustne's statement when he was fighting Pelagianism .

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]It was on Sunday, September 23rd, 417, that St. Augustine, being at Carthage, preached "at the table of Cyprian" that famous sermon against Pelagianism which concludes with these words:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]"My brethren, be of one mind with me. Wheresoever you find such men do not hide them, have no perverse pity. Refute those who contradict, and bring to us those who resist. For already two Councils have been sent to the Apostolic See at Rome concerning this matter, and rescripts have come from thence. The case is concluded; would that the error would soon cease also. Causa finita est, utinam aliquando finiatur error. [67][/FONT]
 
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Much like Augustne's statement when he was fighting Pelagianism .



[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]It was on Sunday, September 23rd, 417, that St. Augustine, being at Carthage, preached "at the table of Cyprian" that famous sermon against Pelagianism which concludes with these words:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]"My brethren, be of one mind with me. Wheresoever you find such men do not hide them, have no perverse pity. Refute those who contradict, and bring to us those who resist. For already two Councils have been sent to the Apostolic See at Rome concerning this matter, and rescripts have come from thence. The case is concluded; would that the error would soon cease also. Causa finita est, utinam aliquando finiatur error. [67][/FONT]​

And that is another one that is misrepresented in the form of an illusion by Roman Catholics.

Augustine does not say that Rome had decided the matter.
Augustine says those councils had already decided the matter and sent their decisions to Rome so they had a record.

See, context means everything.

Roman Catholics just love to misrepresent that one.
 
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I think you are thinking about the Ignatius of Loyola's comment which I'll paraphrase:

"I will see white when my eyes tell me I'm seeing black if the hierarchial mother church tells me to."
Maybe so. I coulda bet it was St. Francis Xavier, tho.
That Iggy was somethin' else, huh?
I don't wanna go all apocolyptic paranoid on everybody's party, but he sure put together one efficient crew of heavies, didn't he? Those guys are masters at organization.
 
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Maybe so. I coulda bet it was St. Francis Xavier, tho.
That Iggy was somethin' else, huh?
I don't wanna go all apocolyptic paranoid on everybody's party, but he sure put together one efficient crew of heavies, didn't he? Those guys are masters at organization.


Yeah, I have a friend of mine who immigrated from Sicily, who converted to Reformational/Biblical/Christian theology who related lots of stories of that bunch running around Sicily beating people and working with the Sicilian mafia to shakedown the peasant folk.

The more things change, the more they stay the same, huh.
 
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Maybe so. I coulda bet it was St. Francis Xavier, tho.
That Iggy was somethin' else, huh?
I don't wanna go all apocolyptic paranoid on everybody's party, but he sure put together one efficient crew of heavies, didn't he? Those guys are masters at organization.


I'll send you an article by an ex-catholic priest with inside experience with that organization.
 
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And that is another one that is misrepresented in the form of an illusion by Roman Catholics.

Augustine does not say that Rome had decided the matter.
Augustine says those councils had already decided the matter and sent their decisions to Rome so they had a record.

See, context means everything.

Roman Catholics just love to misrepresent that one.

“Let us not listen to those who deny that the Church of God is able to forgive all sins. They are wretched indeed, because they do not recognize in Peter the rock (3) and they refuse to believe that the keys of the kingdom of heaven, lost from their own hands, have been given to the Church. These are people who condemn as adulteresses widows who marry, and boast that theirs is a purity superior to the teaching of the Apostles!” (Augustine, Against the Letter of Mani, AD 396 aut 397)

“For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: ‘Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!’ The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these: ‑Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius. In this order of succession no Donatist bishop is found” (Letters of Augustine 53, 2 in The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers 1st series, 1:298).


THE CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY CHRIST MUST BE HEADED BY DIRECT SUCCESSOR OF PETER .

Here is one for you.

“If all men throughout the world were such as you most vainly accuse them of having been, what has the chair of the Roman church done to you, in which Peter sat, and in which Anastasius sits today?” [Against the Letters of Petilani 2:118 [A.D. 402]

“Whosoever shall have separated himself from the Catholic Church, no matter how praiseworthy such a person may fancy his life has been, yet for that one crime of having cut himself off from the unity of Christ he shall not have eternal life, buth the wrath of God shall abide with him for ever.” St Augustine of Hippo (“Letter 141” c. early 5th century)

 
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quote=Trento;“Let us not listen to those who deny that the Church of God is able to forgive all sins. They are wretched indeed, because they do not recognize in Peter the rock (3) and they refuse to believe that the keys of the kingdom of heaven, lost from their own hands, have been given to the Church. These are people who condemn as adulteresses widows who marry, and boast that theirs is a purity superior to the teaching of the Apostles!” (Augustine, Against the Letter of Mani, AD 396 aut 397)
Whew, for those first two sentences I thought you were talkin' about us!
BTW, how did those people get keys in their hands? Do you have a set?

“For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: ‘Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!’ The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these: ‑Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius. In this order of succession no Donatist bishop is found” (Letters of Augustine 53, 2 in The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers 1st series, 1:298).


THE CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY CHRIST MUST BE HEADED BY DIRECT SUCCESSOR OF PETER .
You mean, according to Augustine it must be.
But Trento, even he allows for the possibility of broken continuity.
Here's one for you: if Peter was the figure of the whole church, look how he wasn't defeated, but he made serious errors that needed correction. His forte was getting it right one minute, and goofing up the next. His genius was his persistance & enthusiasm. That is what was undeafeatable. That is what is indefeatable about the Body of Christ, the ecclesia. The livingstones that form the foundation and the rest of the church is only one metaphor that serves to illustrate structure, but the metaphor that illustrates the dynamic is "ecclesia" - the called out ones. It is what we are called out of that we disagree about.

Here is one for you.
“If all men throughout the world were such as you most vainly accuse them of having been, what has the chair of the Roman church done to you, in which Peter sat, and in which Anastasius sits today?” [Against the Letters of Petilani 2:118 [A.D. 402]
Sounds personal... I mean between those two. Could you be more direct?

“Whosoever shall have separated himself from the Catholic Church, no matter how praiseworthy such a person may fancy his life has been, yet for that one crime of having cut himself off from the unity of Christ he shall not have eternal life, buth the wrath of God shall abide with him for ever.” St Augustine of Hippo (“Letter 141” c. early 5th century)
It's a bit self serving to declare that one has seperated one's self from the church. And I didn't leave because I fancied my life praiseworthy, I left because of the lack of praiseworthiness of the RC.
Matter of fact, I wouldn't stick around a group that was concerned about their praiseworthyness for very long, anyway.
Gratitude is a whole different world view than duty.
 
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To everyone who keeps referring to the "Roman" Church, or the "Roman Catholic" Church: The Roman Rite is only one of many Rites that make up the Catholic Church (although it may be the largest). The Catholic Church is a communion of churches with two things in common: Doctrine and being in communion with the bishop of Rome. The are Roman Catholics, Marionite Catholics, Byzantine Catholics, Syriac Catholics, Malankarese Catholics, Coptic Catholics, Chaldean Catholics, Armenian Catholics, and many many more. But, as a rule, the name of the Church is simply the "Catholic Church".

Just a little information to throw into the void that is this thread.
http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/catholic_rites_and_churches.htm
 
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“Let us not listen to those who deny that the Church of God is able to forgive all sins. They are wretched indeed, because they do not recognize in Peter the rock (3) and they refuse to believe that the keys of the kingdom of heaven, lost from their own hands, have been given to the Church. These are people who condemn as adulteresses widows who marry, and boast that theirs is a purity superior to the teaching of the Apostles!” (Augustine, Against the Letter of Mani, AD 396 aut 397)

“For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: ‘Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!’ The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these: ‑Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius. In this order of succession no Donatist bishop is found” (Letters of Augustine 53, 2 in The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers 1st series, 1:298).


THE CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY CHRIST MUST BE HEADED BY DIRECT SUCCESSOR OF PETER .

Here is one for you.

“If all men throughout the world were such as you most vainly accuse them of having been, what has the chair of the Roman church done to you, in which Peter sat, and in which Anastasius sits today?” [Against the Letters of Petilani 2:118 [A.D. 402]

“Whosoever shall have separated himself from the Catholic Church, no matter how praiseworthy such a person may fancy his life has been, yet for that one crime of having cut himself off from the unity of Christ he shall not have eternal life, buth the wrath of God shall abide with him for ever.” St Augustine of Hippo (“Letter 141” c. early 5th century)



Yes, let's look at what Augustine says, without his comments being put through the Roman spin machine.

Rome claims that the "keys to the kingdom" were given exclusively to Peter and the Roman popes.

But what does Augustine say about the "keys":

and they refuse to believe that the keys of the kingdom of heaven, lost from their own hands, have been given to the Church.


Before his passion the Lord Jesus, as you know, chose those disciples of his, whom he called apostles. Among these it was only Peter who almost everywhere was given the privilege of representing the whole Church. It was in the person of the whole Church, which he alone represented, that he was privileged to hear, ‘To you will I give the keys of the kingdom of heaven’ (Mt 16:19). After all, it isn’t just one man that received these keys, but the Church in its unity. So this is the reason for Peter’s acknowledged preeminence, that he stood for the Church’s universality and unity, when he was told, ‘To you I am entrusting,’ what has in fact been entrusted to all---Sermon 295
You see, Augustine, and the church fathers established no personal exclusive reception of the "keys" in Peter the person, nor in the bishops of Rome.

Did you get this:
After all, it isn’t just one man that received these keys, but the Church in its unity.
Peter, was a figure, a metaphor, a symbol of the church in the view of the church fathers, so that the "keys" as Augustine says were given "to ALL".

And that is the consensus of the church fathers, as opposed to the false claims of Rome.

Here is another one for you.

we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: ‘Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it!’
Now, readers notice that Augustine says Peter was "bearing in a figure of the whole Church", which is consistent with the citation above I just made from Augustine, and consistent with the consensus of the church fathers, of Peter being symbolic of the church in unity, and has nothing to do with the Roman bishops being the sole successors of Peter, or that Peter personally received the "keys to the kingdom" exclusively.

Now, the passage "Upon this rock I will build My church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it", is claimed by Rome to be applied to the person of Peter, and the bishops of Rome.

Now, [staff edit] are fond of pulling out the snippets as cited here, and after running them through the Roman spin machine, expect people to read a pro-Roman papacy spin into it.

However, when we look at what Augustine and the church fathers said in context concerning that passage, a far different picture than the illusion [staff edit]Catholicism[/staff edit] tries to paint comes to the surface.

And I tell you...‘You are Peter, Rocky, and on this rock I shall build my Church, and the gates of the underworld will not conquer her. To you shall I give the keys of the kingdom. Whatever you bind on earth shall also be bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth shall also be loosed in heaven’ (Mt 16:15-19). In Peter, Rocky, we see our attention drawn to the rock. Now the apostle Paul says about the former people, ‘They drank from the spiritual rock that was following them; but the rock was Christ’ (1 Cor 10:4). So this disciple is called Rocky from the rock, like Christian from Christ...Why have I wanted to make this little introduction? In order to suggest to you that in Peter the Church is to be recognized. Christ, you see, built his Church not on a man but on Peter’s confession. What is Peter’s confession? ‘You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ There’s the rock for you, there’s the foundation, there’s where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer----[SIZE=-1]John Rotelle, Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine [New Rochelle: New City Press, 1993], Sermons, Vol. 6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327[/SIZE]


When we look further into Augustine and the church fathers, so we see what they mean when using terms like "the chair of Peter", "primacy" or others that Roman illusionists like to pull out of context, we see, as with Augustine above, and the consistent consensus of the church fathers that the "Rock" that the Church is built upon, as Augustine says, is not a man, but Christ and the confession of Peter, "Thou art the Christ the Son of the Living God".

Also, when we look at what Augustine and the church fathers meant when saying:
that the Church of God is able to forgive all sins.
again a far different picture than what Rome paints arises.

In the following Augustine explains what he means:

Before his passion the Lord Jesus, as you know, chose those disciples of his, whom he called apostles. Among these it was only Peter who almost everywhere was given the privilege of representing the whole Church. It was in the person of the whole Church, which he alone represented, that he was privileged to hear, ‘To you will I give the keys of the kingdom of heaven’ (Mt 16:19). After all, it isn’t just one man that received these keys, but the Church in its unity. So this is the reason for Peter’s acknowledged pre–eminence, that he stood for the Church’s universality and unity, when he was told, ‘To you I am entrusting,’ what has in fact been entrusted to ALL.

I mean, to show you that it is the Church which has received the keys of the kingdom of heaven, listen to what the Lord says in another place to all his apostles: ‘Receive the Holy Spirit;’ and straightway, ‘Whose sins you forgive, they will be forgiven them; whose sins you retain, they will be retained’ (Jn 20:22-23). This refers to the keys, about which it is said, ‘whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven’ (Mt 16:19). But that was said to Peter. To show you that Peter at that time stood for the universal Church, listen to what is said to him, what is said to all the faithful, the saints: ‘If your brother sins against you, correct him between you and himself alone’ ---
[SIZE=-1]On the Saints, Sermon 295[/SIZE]
So we see that Augustine is not describing sacerdoral/priestly absolution of sins at all, but that everyone in the Church is to forgive their brother.

And when Augustine says:

“Whosoever shall have separated himself from the Catholic Church, no matter how praiseworthy such a person may fancy his life has been, yet for that one crime of having cut himself off from the unity of Christ he shall not have eternal life, buth the wrath of God shall abide with him for ever.”
Augustine was not speaking of the Roman Catholic church as being "The Catholic Church" at all, as the [staff edit] would have you believe, but is speaking of the geniune Church of Christ in it's universality, not Rome.




 
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To everyone who keeps referring to the "Roman" Church, or the "Roman Catholic" Church: The Roman Rite is only one of many Rites that make up the Catholic Church (although it may be the largest). The Catholic Church is a communion of churches with two things in common: Doctrine and being in communion with the bishop of Rome. The are Roman Catholics, Marionite Catholics, Byzantine Catholics, Syriac Catholics, Malankarese Catholics, Coptic Catholics, Chaldean Catholics, Armenian Catholics, and many many more. But, as a rule, the name of the Church is simply the "Catholic Church".

Just a little information to throw into the void that is this thread.
http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/catholic_rites_and_churches.htm


So the theory goes.

The sure,. inerrant Apostolic Tradition that is recorded and preserved in the Holy Scriptures says differently.;)
 
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Yes, let's look at what Augustine says, without his comments being put through the Roman spin machine.

Rome claims that the "keys to the kingdom" were given exclusively to Peter and the Roman popes.

But what does Augustine say about the "keys":





You see, Augustine, and the church fathers established no personal exclusive reception of the "keys" in Peter the person, nor in the bishops of Rome.

Did you get this:

Peter, was a figure, a metaphor, a symbol of the church in the view of the church fathers, so that the "keys" as Augustine says were given "to ALL".

And that is the consensus of the church fathers, as opposed to the false claims of Rome.

Here is another one for you.



Now, readers notice that Augustine says Peter was "bearing in a figure of the whole Church", which is consistent with the citation above I just made from Augustine, and consistent with the consensus of the church fathers, of Peter being symbolic of the church in unity, and has nothing to do with the Roman bishops being the sole successors of Peter, or that Peter personally received the "keys to the kingdom" exclusively.

Now, the passage "Upon this rock I will build My church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it", is claimed by Rome to be applied to the person of Peter, and the bishops of Rome.

Now, [staff edit] are fond of pulling out the snippets as cited here, and after running them through the Roman spin machine, expect people to read a pro-Roman papacy spin into it.

However, when we look at what Augustine and the church fathers said in context concerning that passage, a far different picture than the illusion [staff edit]Catholicism[/staff edit] tries to paint comes to the surface.

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When we look further into Augustine and the church fathers, so we see what they mean when using terms like "the chair of Peter", "primacy" or others that Roman illusionists like to pull out of context, we see, as with Augustine above, and the consistent consensus of the church fathers that the "Rock" that the Church is built upon, as Augustine says, is not a man, but Christ and the confession of Peter, "Thou art the Christ the Son of the Living God".

Also, when we look at what Augustine and the church fathers meant when saying:
again a far different picture than what Rome paints arises.

In the following Augustine explains what he means:

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So we see that Augustine is not describing sacerdoral/priestly absolution of sins at all, but that everyone in the Church is to forgive their brother.

And when Augustine says:

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Augustine was not speaking of the Roman Catholic church as being "The Catholic Church" at all, as the [staff edit] would have you believe, but is speaking of the geniune Church of Christ in it's universality, not Rome.




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Exactly.

His Church is not bound by denominational titles and we are all gifted and called according to His will to obey the call of the Great Commission....not just the select few.
 
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THE CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY CHRIST MUST BE HEADED BY DIRECT SUCCESSOR OF PETER .



Well, the church fathers considered ALL genuine believers in Christ to be the direct successors of Peter, and that there is no one "head" of the Church except Christ.

As is seen from Augustine's commentaries I cited in the previous posts, and represents the consensus of the church fathers all of the Apostles are equal in all respects. Each receives the authority of the keys, not Peter alone.

But the [staff edit] will object, doesn’t Augustine accord a primacy to the apostle Peter?
Does he not call Peter the first of the apostles, holding the chief place in the Apostleship?
Don’t such statements prove papal primacy?

While it is true that Augustine and church fathers have some very exalted things to say about Peter, it is clear that neither Augustine or the consensus of the fathers held to the Roman Catholic view of papal primacy.

This is because their comments apply to Peter alone. They have absolutely nothing to do with the bishops of Rome.
How do we know this? Because Augustine and the fathers do not make that application in their comments. They do not state that their descriptions of Peter apply to the bishops of Rome. The picture [staff edit] try to paint is that because some of the fathers make certain comments about Peter—for example, that he is chief of the apostles or head of the apostolic choir—that they also have in mind the bishop of Rome in an exclusive sense. But they do not state this in their writings.

That is but preconceived notions that is back engineered into their writings where they do not exist.

Did they view the bishops of Rome as being successors of Peter? Yes.

Did they view the bishops of Rome as being the exclusive successors of Peter? NO!

The consistent view of Augustine and the early fathers was that all the bishops of the Church in the East and West were the successors of Peter. They ALL possess the chair of Peter. So when they speak in exalted terms about Peter they do not apply those terms to the bishops of Rome.
 
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Exactly.

His Church is not bound by denominational titles and we are all gifted and called according to His will to obey the call of the Great Commission....not just the select few.

:thumbsup:

One thing you can count on when seeing [staff edit] when they make their citations from the church fathers, they take them out of context and back engineer the preconceived notions of Rome that disctinctively evolved from the dark ages onward, into them where they do not say what the Roman spin machine tries to create.
 
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You mean, according to Augustine it must be.


As seen already, Augustine does not say what the Roman illusionists try to make him say at all.

There is no single "head of the church", except Christ, and Christ ALONE.

ALL are the direct successors of Peter by virtue of being reciprients of the "keys of the kingdom" by correct belief.

But Trento, even he allows for the possibility of broken continuity.
Here's one for you: if Peter was the figure of the whole church, look how he wasn't defeated, but he made serious errors that needed correction. His forte was getting it right one minute, and goofing up the next. His genius was his persistance & enthusiasm. That is what was indeafeatable. That is what is indefeatable about the Body of Christ, the ecclesia. The livingstones that form the foundation and the rest of the church is only one metaphor that serves to illustrate structure, but the metaphor that illustrates the dynamic is "ecclesia" - the called out ones. It is what we are called out of that we disagree about.

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As seen already, Augustine does not say what the Roman illusionists try to make him say at all.

There is no single "head of the church", except Christ, and Christ ALONE.


ALL are the direct successors of Peter by virtue of being reciprients of the "keys of the kingdom" by correct belief.


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Apparently you do not have much faith that Jesus prayer is very effective.
("I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail"), and Matthew 16:18
or John 21:15–17 ("Feed my sheep . . . "), Luke 22:32

Jesus builds the Church upon the person of Peter.

15He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven

After Peter communicated the Father’s revelation, Jesus renamed Simon to Peter, declared that He would build the Church upon the rock of Peter, gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven, and invested Peter with the singular authority to infallibly bind and loose (since what Peter binds or looses on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven).

Only Peter knew Christ to be the Son of God. The other “disciples” got it wrong That is why Jesus conferred upon Peter alone the special privileges of the keys and the singular authority to bind and loose.It was precisely because God gave Peter a divine revelation and Peter was able to infallibly communicate that revelation that Jesus chooses to build His Church upon Peter. God intruded into the mind of Peter and gave Him this infallible truth, and Peter was able to orally communicate that truth infallibly to Jesus and the other apostles. As Jesus indicates, it was not because of Peter’s own abilities or worthiness. It was also not because of Peter’s faith.

Jesus is the ultimate authority, He has delegated to Peter the authority to rule the Church in His place as His Vicar, through the power of the keys. Jesus delegates His authority to Peter, but does not relinquish it. Jesus is still in charge, and Peter is directly accountable to Jesus for his actions. Jesus gave us many parables about how the Master would leave his land to his subjects, and then come back and render an account (see Mt 21:33-44; 25:14-30; Mk 12:1-11; Lk 16:1-10; 19:11-27; 20:9-18). This is precisely what Jesus will do with the leaders He has placed over the Church, beginning with Peter and his successors. Peter himself knew this all too well when he wrote “For the time has come for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?” (1 Pet 4:17).


Augustine


"Among these [apostles] Peter alone almost everywhere deserved to represent the whole Church. Because of that representation of the Church, which only he bore, he deserved to hear ‘I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of heaven’" (Sermons 295:2 [A.D. 411]).

"Some things are said which seem to relate especially to the apostle Peter, and yet are not clear in their meaning unless referred to the Church, which he is acknowledged to have represented in a figure on account of the primacy which he bore among the disciples. Such is ‘I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven,’ and other similar passages. In the same way, Judas represents those Jews who were Christ’s enemies" (Commentary on Psalm 108 1 [A.D. 415]).
 
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