Hocus Pocus ????

[simonthezealot]

Good Day, Lionroar

Sign me up for the new "Lourdes" debt card, don't leave earth with out one!

Apply now and recieve the new minted and cooled with Holy water coin with the image of John Teztel.



In Him,

Bill

When in the coffer a coin does ring, out from purgatory a soul does spring...

 

[simonthezealot]

Because he can draw from grace of Jesus Christ and the merits of the Saints.

Peace

Hi LR,

How does he draw it...Is it the "hocus pocus" that tyndale mentioned, which incidentally has it's origin in transubstantiation....

 

[Gary51]

When in the coffer a coin does ring, out from purgatory a soul does spring...

LOL...

 

[BBAS 64]

When in the coffer a coin does ring, out from purgatory a soul does spring...

STOP THE MINT....

New Design....

Imprinted on the back is the silly assertion of J.T...

I have a colectors item, no silly sayings....

Now I do not have to pay for candles

In Him,

Bill

 

[simonthezealot]

You should know that all who confess and in penance put alms into the coffer according to the counsel of the confessor, will obtain complete remission of all their sins.
--Johann Tetzel

 

[tulc]

If you're interested you could check out here:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14539a.htm
about him and here:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07783a.htm
for what the RCC teaches about indulgences.
tulc(sipping more great coffee)

 

[Uphill Battle]

Just wanted to say that the Vatican Catholic Church is by far more orthodox than most others and, unlike most, is a truly Apostolic Church by which God works through.

That is all.

because of course God requires a certain organization, or certain type of organization, with which to work through. /sarcasm

Lourdes is a Holy site and has seen many miracles and convertions to the Lord.

Your walking a dangerous path. Your in danger in commiting the unforgivable sin.

Peace

you can't know the number of times the "unforgivable sin" has been attached to "not believing as we do."



In regards to the OP... this should come as no shock. This is not a new thing. I can think of one Pope in the past who promised the same sort of thing if men would fight in the crusades.

 

[Dannager]

This proves that the pope is not infallible. He can’t offer relief from purgatory, because purgatory does not exist.

Nether should he pray to a lump of stone.

In other words, you're not Catholic.

Color me shocked.

 

[lionroar0]

you can't know the number of times the "unforgivable sin" has been attached to "not believing as we do."

LOL.

Hell must be full by now and the rest of us get to go to heck.

Seriously though. One thing is not beliving another is ascribing a belive to Satan.


Peace

 

[Uphill Battle]

LOL.

Hell must be full by now and the rest of us get to go to heck.

Seriously though. One thing is not beliving another is ascribing a belive to Satan.


Peace

I myself will attribute no teaching held by other sects of Christianity as "from Satan." I know Satan is a deciever. He deceives even Christians. There is always the possibility of being wrong, however. (we ALL need to acknowledge this, I don't think anyone really does.) So, best not to level that accusation.

 

[Gary51]

In other words, you're not Catholic.

Color me shocked.

No, I can't afford to be!!!

 

[PrincetonGuy]

Throughout the history of the Roman Catholic Church she has had some good Popes and some bad ones. I believe that Pope Benedict XVI is undoing very much of the outstanding work done by his recent predecessors and he is a horrible embarrassment to the portion of the Roman Catholic Church who has a solid knowledge of the Bible and the progress that was made by the reforms of the Second Vatican Council . I believe that Pope Benedict XVI will go down in history as one of the very worst Popes, certainly one of the worst in modern times.

 

[Gary51]

Yeah... I guess there were some good and some bad Popes... But not one of them was infallible.

And, some of the bad ones were really, really bad.

 

[tulc]

Yeah... I guess there were some good and some bad Popes... But not one of them was infallible.

...wouldn't that depend on what you mean by infallible and what their Church means?
tulc(just curious)

 

[lionroar0]

I myself will attribute no teaching held by other sects of Christianity as "from Satan." I know Satan is a deciever. He deceives even Christians. There is always the possibility of being wrong, however. (we ALL need to acknowledge this, I don't think anyone really does.) So, best not to level that accusation.

I concur.

Peace

 

[lionroar0]

tulc(sipping more great coffee)

Gonna go make some for myself now.

Peace

 

[Gary51]

...wouldn't that depend on what you mean by infallible and what their Church means?
tulc(just curious)

Definitions of Infallible on the Web:

• [SIZE=-1]
• incapable of failure or error;[/SIZE]

 

[lionroar0]

incapable of failure or error;

Which is not what the pope. He is only infallable in matters of faith and morals when teaching the faith. And even then he has to define it.

Peace

 

[mont974x4]

Which is not what the pope. He is only infallable in matters of faith and morals when teaching the faith. And even then he has to define it.

Peace

Except we know that the pope is fallible in such matters.

 

[lionroar0]

Except we know that the pope is fallible in such matters.

Hence the different icons.

Peace