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Hi, i'm an atheist, I joined this forum not to attack but to understand.

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Not meaning to critisize, here, but I'm not certain these answers are quite what he's after.

"Because it's totally a good idea" isn't really a valid reason.

Also, remember belief isn't a choice, provide some reasons, maybe experiences, examples of stuff, maybe you'll spark off some ideas. I'm not trying to discourage you guys from answering his question, just merely suggesting you try a different route. :)

Good luck, yo.
 
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Hi all,

The reason I joined this forum is because I have some questions about Christianity, and faith in general.


I hope I'm not banned or seen as a troll here for asking this.


I'll start by asking, why should I believe in god?
I'll start by responding, why should I not believe in God?
 
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I'll start by responding, why should I not believe in God?


Why is the wrong question, you always end up with another why. The question should not be why, because you will not get the answer, e.g. 'why do bad things happen to good people', 'why was evil allowed', 'why do non-believers prosper'; there are a million 'why's'.

Are you God? Do you suppose that He is required to answer all the 'why's'. We have been given enough information to believe, and He will take care of us, He knows what we need, just give your heart to him and submit to him, and avoid self-importance, and self-righteousness, and you will find peace, and love, and harmony, and you will see His hand in your life, and you will rejoice, and life can be really, really good, because He will be with you and you will be Strong, and you will get Up, and you will change your patterns of Failure, and you will Improve.

Without Him, these things will be impossible, With Him all things are possible. Let go of yourself, what are you really holding on to, are you afraid He will make your life difficult? On the contrary, He makes your life better, much better. 'My yoke is light, and my burden is easy'; 'I do not desire sacrifice, but rather mercy'. Your chains will be broken, and your heart will become free, and you will feel Him, and you will rejoice, every day, because you have finally returned home.
 
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Not meaning to critisize, here, but I'm not certain these answers are quite what he's after.

"Because it's totally a good idea" isn't really a valid reason.

This is one of the better posts I've seen out of you, sir; however, I will take the opposing argument.

We can all give a zillion real "reasons." YoDude clearly has a good heart, and some people come to God exactly as he describes. I never could. I have a very different type of personality. God met me there.

Yet with all my reasons, including the purely logical path that lead me to God, NONE of that will "convince" anyone else of anything. We are created this way on purpose. It's an individual journey.

In the final analysis, Yodude is absolutely correct in what he's saying, that the only good we can really do is vouch for our experience, that believing in God is "totally a good idea." ('Cept ya need to stick in there that believing only serves to bring us into a real relationship w/ our Creator; that's the part that really helps.)

What God offers, even just in this life, is better than anything this world has to give.
 
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Hi all,

The reason I joined this forum is because I have some questions about Christianity, and faith in general.

I hope I'm not banned or seen as a troll here for asking this.

I'll start by asking, why should I believe in god?

Because He is real - Christianity is the real deal. I would have been dead many times were it not for Him intervening. I remember asking Jesus to help me with something I struggled as a child - and everything changed right there.
 
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I still say reading the book of John is the best course of action for the OP. It answers his question better than anyone on these forums ever will.
:thumbsup: Combine that with following your tagline, and I'd say it's a sure thing he'd find what he's looking for.
 
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I still say reading the book of John is the best course of action for the OP. It answers his question better than anyone on these forums ever will.
Why should he read the book of John since he doesn't believe in God or the Bible?
 
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Perplexed,
I've only read the last page but my take is that you are not being dealt with on the level you had sought after!

Excuse me. please, if I make the same mistake but I will try to help you. In November of 1967 I was still in your position. I had done a serious study of The Big Bang Theory and the Theory of Evolution and was left without any belief in what I had formerly accepted because my teachers had taught me it was the truth.

The end of my examination of the Big Bang Theory found that the theory, itself, defied all known truth of science. For example but not only, every explosion has a known set of requirements. First and foremost, you must have something to explode, where did it come from? Something had to be the cause!

That did not cause me the distress that the failure of any conclusive evidence for the Theory of Evolution caused me. With the failure of that I was one lost puppy and I began to seek after God, to test Him. In the middle of a dirt road in the heart of Vietnam, God spoke to me.

There is no evidence I can offer you, just as there was never any the chaplains could offer me to prove God. Just like my situation, you are the only one that can seek after God as your Saviour, making you the only person that can prove or disprove God to you. I and the other Christians here can pray for you and we can offer advise but the jourmey is your's to make.
 
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Perplexed,
I've only read the last page but my take is that you are not being dealt with on the level you had sought after!

Excuse me. please, if I make the same mistake but I will try to help you. In November of 1967 I was still in your position. I had done a serious study of The Big Bang Theory and the Theory of Evolution and was left without any belief in what I had formerly accepted because my teachers had taught me it was the truth.

The end of my examination of the Big Bang Theory found that the theory, itself, defied all known truth of science. For example but not only, every explosion has a known set of requirements. First and foremost, you must have something to explode, where did it come from? Something had to be the cause!

That did not cause me the distress that the failure of any conclusive evidence for the Theory of Evolution caused me. With the failure of that I was one lost puppy and I began to seek after God, to test Him. In the middle of a dirt road in the heart of Vietnam, God spoke to me.

There is no evidence I can offer you, just as there was never any the chaplains could offer me to prove God. Just like my situation, you are the only one that can seek after God as your Saviour, making you the only person that can prove or disprove God to you. I and the other Christians here can pray for you and we can offer advise but the jourmey is your's to make.
 
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Perplexed,
I've only read the last page but my take is that you are not being dealt with on the level you had sought after!

Excuse me. please, if I make the same mistake but I will try to help you. In November of 1967 I was still in your position. I had done a serious study of The Big Bang Theory and the Theory of Evolution and was left without any belief in what I had formerly accepted because my teachers had taught me it was the truth.

The end of my examination of the Big Bang Theory found that the theory, itself, defied all known truth of science. For example but not only, every explosion has a known set of requirements. First and foremost, you must have something to explode, where did it come from? Something had to be the cause!

That did not cause me the distress that the failure of any conclusive evidence for the Theory of Evolution caused me. With the failure of that I was one lost puppy and I began to seek after God, to test Him. In the middle of a dirt road in the heart of Vietnam, God spoke to me.

There is no evidence I can offer you, just as there was never any the chaplains could offer me to prove God. Just like my situation, you are the only one that can seek after God as your Saviour, making you the only person that can prove or disprove God to you. I and the other Christians here can pray for you and we can offer advise but the journey is your's to make.
 
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Hi all,

The reason I joined this forum is because I have some questions about Christianity, and faith in general.

I hope I'm not banned or seen as a troll here for asking this.

I'll start by asking, why should I believe in god?
Hey there PerplexedAthiest o/

I know you posted this a few days back so hope I'm not too late to respond. I am still trying to find a way I feel is accurate and truthful to answer this question, without waxing lyrical about a thousand and one things, because to me whenever someone asks this, it always brings to mind so many things and I just never feel that individually any of them are enough to warrant a belief or acceptance, yet together they all form what is (for me anyhow) a fairly well substantiated truth.

I came to belief in God because I felt that if this idea and notion which Christianity is based on is true, then it must be well substantiated. I mean, you don't just believe things to be true based on a whim. You either accept your own research, experiences and tests or you accept those of others who you hold in a position of trust and reliability. I mean, I'm not a scientist, and even if I was I would very likely only be one of one or two main fields. However methods of inquiry are open to everyone, and as such I whipped open a Bible that I had been given for a birthday by my girlfriend (who is now my wife) and just looked at something in it, and then went to the internet to see what I could find. At this stage I was an atheist through and through having no time for any notion of God or gods, not even willing to listen to my family on them and dismissing any encouragement to learn more from essentially anyone. I think it was only because I was prompted by someone I cared about profoundly and respected, that I even did this.

So anyhow, I started out with my skeptical skills and just began looking things up and reading. The actual specifics of my views and beliefs have changed a fair bit as I refined and learned more. However something that occurred to me from the outset, was that irrespective of the identity of the designer of the universe, I was struck with a real impression that there was a designer. For a summary of the evidence I feel forms a substantially believable and solid basis for belief in God, I would suggest you check out this site, and listen to some of the podcasts or watch some of the debate videos - at least that way your current world-view is well represented and you can hear some of the arguments and criticisms you currently hold against theism both put forward and discussed.

One thing I would like to say is that it was only after I went on my research spree, that I came across a passage in the Bible which basically was a command from God to do precisely what I had done:

1 Thessalonions 5:21
"Test everything. Hold on to the good."

This was quite encouraging to me, as it felt relevant and practical, and time-agnostic. I mean, it was basically saying "You should search for the truth." which is why to me your initial question sort of carried a mental subtitle of "Why should I believe in the truth?" which I feel is what other posters have echoed when they have said, "Because He (God) is real." and so forth. They are all saying, you should believe what is true, and your methods for finding out what is true, are the very same that everyone else has and I think God specifically made it this way, and then gave us that command, to test all that we encounter, and to hold on to that which we find to be good (truthful).

It has been quite common since my conversion to Christianity some years ago, to keep stumbling upon things that I find are echoed in the Bible, and that is a great reassurance to me.
 
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