Maxine Waters Harasses ICE Agents: ‘Are You Going To Shoot An Elected Official?’

[Oompa Loompa]

Unless it happens at the Capital on January 6th, of course.

Are you saying that people were not in danger on January 6th? Or are you bringing it up to deflect away from the topic issues? I wouldn't blame you if you were, Mexican race riots and mass looting in Los Angeles is hard to defend.

 

[Desk trauma]

"Peaceful Protesters" tried blocking the road in my little Southern town outside Atlanta. My buddy had to get to a job and ran through the line. He pulled over after an officer waved him over. He asked the officer what would happen now. Officer said, "We can get the one that came through your windshield for breaking and entering, and the one you knocked all the way into a ditch on the other side of the road will get ticketed for leaving the scene of an accident."

Sounds reasonable.

Ah, we’re back to fantasizing about running people over. Didn’t take long.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Are you saying that people were not in danger on January 6th? Or are you bringing it up to deflect away from the topic issues? I wouldn't blame you if you were, Mexican race riots and mass looting in Los Angeles is hard to defend.

I'm just saying that it's a super fun little double standard be sobbing into your morning cereal that "disrupting in a secure zone or a law enforcement operation endangers people" when officials are trying to get a look at a detention facility that is potentially housing people who've been kidnapped by a police state... But when a bunch extremists and sore losers go whackers bonkers and disrupt a secure zone and law enforcement operation on January 6th for the purposes of lynching the VP and committing violence on the administration, you get super quiet.

Apparently supporting our law enforcement and military and demanding people show respect for them and their duties is a deeply held belief... But a deeply held belief that comes and goes.

Disrupting them when they're doing something of questionable legality that you happen to support? Super bad. Terrible. Awful.

Disrupting them when they're doing something indisputably legal and sanctioned, but not something you support? Now that's totally ok.

It's almost like you feel you should get a different set of rules than everybody else.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

But when a bunch extremists and sore losers go whackers bonkers and disrupt a secure zone and law enforcement operation on January 6th for the purposes of lynching the VP and committing violence on the administration, you get super quiet.

The only people that keep bringing it up are liberals. Not because conservatives are condoning the behavior or setting a double standard, but because it happened over 5 years ago and conservatives have moved onto more pressing issues while liberals cling to the single event as their whataboutism deflection tool to distract away from the the numerous, arguably worse examples that keep popping up.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

The only people that keep bringing it up are liberals.

Well, that and the rest of the world and historians. But go on.

Not because conservatives are condoning the behavior or setting a double standard,

Which they are and they are.

but because it happened over 5 years ago and conservatives have moved onto more pressing issues while liberals cling to the single event as their whataboutism deflection tool to distract away from the the numerous, arguably worse examples that keep popping up.

Uh, Liberals are bringing up those numerous, arguably worse examples that keep popping up. And, this may shock you, but a vast majority of us are able to very easily talk about the evil of multiple things at the same time, especially when it ties to a singular cause.

Though please, go on. I love hearing about how 5 years ago was such a long time ago and not worth talking about anymore. Especially coming from you, who still complains about Obama, Hillary, COVID, BLM, and vaccine mandates. Tell me again about how people who talk about things from 5 years ago can't move on and use topics from that era as a whataboutism deflection tool to distract from the terrible things going on today.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Well, that and the rest of the world and historians. But go on.

Nope, just liberals.

Which they are and they are.

Nope. They are not, and they are not. Give one example of a conservative saying, "What about January 6th" when the topic is clearly not about Jan 6th.

Though please, go on. I love hearing about how 5 years ago was such a long time ago and not worth talking about anymore.

I will when it is relevant. Like when pointing out hypocritical double standards and reinvented history.

 

[rambot]

"Peaceful Protesters" tried blocking the road in my little Southern town outside Atlanta. My buddy had to get to a job and ran through the line. He pulled over after an officer waved him over. He asked the officer what would happen now. Officer said, "We can get the one that came through your windshield for breaking and entering, and the one you knocked all the way into a ditch on the other side of the road will get ticketed for leaving the scene of an accident."

Sounds reasonable.

American policing eh?

But you don't live in a police state.

This reads as bad as my time getting harrassed for putting on a play in South Korea 20 years ago.

 

[Palmfever]

American policing eh?

But you don't live in a police state.

This reads as bad as my time getting harrassed for putting on a play in South Korea 20 years ago.

That was a joke.
If you didn't find any humor on it, who cares.
Just don't presume to project your response or experience on me.

 

[Palmfever]

Ah, we’re back to fantasizing about running people over. Didn’t take long.

No,
You are back there.
It was a joke and if you didn't care for it don't project your desires and depravity on me.
You went there. I have no desire to maim or kill.
You are right about one thing.
It didn't take you long.

 

[bèlla]

Ah, we’re back to fantasizing about running people over. Didn’t take long.

We had an incident like that yesterday and the news captured it. He drove through the crowd and people jumped out of the way. He didn’t wait for them to move. I would hate to think that he would run them over.

~bella

 

[Oompa Loompa]

"Peaceful Protesters" tried blocking the road in my little Southern town outside Atlanta. My buddy had to get to a job and ran through the line. He pulled over after an officer waved him over. He asked the officer what would happen now. Officer said, "We can get the one that came through your windshield for breaking and entering, and the one you knocked all the way into a ditch on the other side of the road will get ticketed for leaving the scene of an accident."

Sounds reasonable.

I think that a lot of these protesters dont understand that lawful and peaceful protest are only protected if they are lawful and peaceful. Of course, there are some situations in which civil disobedience is used to protest unjust laws (civil rights movement) but it still does not exempt a protester for facing criminal charges in the name of free speech. Impeding traffic is a crime and a huge safety concern. So those who block traffic should be arrested and fined.

 

[rambot]

No,
You are back there.
It was a joke and if you didn't care for it don't project your desires and depravity on me.
You went there. I have no desire to maim or kill.
You are right about one thing.
It didn't take you long.

I wonder if you think it says something that people can't tell that was a joke...

 

[Desk trauma]

No,
You are back there.

You made post 40 not me.

It was a joke and if you didn't care for it don't project your desires and depravity on me.

You’re the one who put the time into imaging a scenario where protesters were run over and how their serious injuries are to be laughed at, not me.

You went there. I have no desire to maim or kill.

Yet apparently find humor in the thought of it taking place.

 

[RileyG]

ICE is not violating the law. It's not like the border where the Biden administration for so long continually blocked Congressional visits. Maxine needs to make an appointment to visit a facility where dangerous terrorists and criminals are being held. Barging in and trying to cause disruption, especially at a time when there are violent protests in the area, puts everyone in danger.

Thanks for the input.

 

[essentialsaltes]

A half dozen Waymos burned on the weekend, but the city is and was certainly not on fire.
What country is she in now?

 

[DaisyDay]

because it happened over 5 years ago

2025 - 2021 < 5

 

[essentialsaltes]

As outlined in the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2024 (Public Law 118-47), Title V: General Provisions:

SEC. 527. (a) None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available to the Department of Homeland Security by this Act may be used to prevent any of the following persons from entering, for the purpose of conducting oversight, any facility operated by or for the Department of Homeland Security used to detain or otherwise house aliens, or to make any temporary modification at any such facility that in any way alters what is observed by a visiting member of Congress or such designated employee, compared to what would be observed in the absence of such modification:

ICE Insists That Congress Needs Its Permission To Conduct Oversight​

But that's not what the law says.​

This week, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) released new guidance on "facility visit and engagement protocol for Members of Congress and staff."

"ICE detention locations and Field Offices are secure facilities. As such, all visitors are required to comply with [identity] verification and security screening requirements prior to entry," it specified. "When planning to visit an ICE facility, ICE asks requests to be submitted at least 72 hours in advance."

This week, four members of Congress who visited the ICE Processing Center in Broadview, Illinois, were apparently denied access when they arrived. "We have reports that immigrants are being detained here without access to their attorneys, sleeping on the floor and without food," Rep. Chuy Garcia (D–Ill.), one of the members in attendance, alleged in a post on X.

The DHS replied from its official account, "Congressman, all members and staff need to comply with facility rules, procedures, and instructions from ICE personnel on site."

On Wednesday, Reps. Jerry Nadler and Dan Goldman (D–N.Y.) visited an office in Manhattan where migrants were allegedly being kept, only to be denied entry by Bill Joyce, the deputy director of the field office. Joyce denied it was a detention facility, saying that even though migrants were being kept on-site, ICE was simply "housing them until they can be detained."

It sounds to me like they are being "otherwise housed".