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But there was the question of why Sylar would lie to protect Peter. He didn't. Nathan did that before Sylar killed him. By the time Sylar took Nathan's position (sometime during the war that was mentioned several times), Peter was already safe.

A coworker said the same thing. Peter specifically said Sylar though, and at that point even he didn't know that Nathan was really Sylar.

I have three theories on why Sylar protected Peter.
1. To protect himself. It was safer letting everyone else think he was dead. Though I bet it irritated him that his name was villified.
2. In order to get some time to gain powers that would let him defeat Peter, i.e. Claire. This is probably why he was ok with killing all of the others with special powers as well, he wanted to be the only one
3. If he did go after Peter, he'd blow his cover. He said Nathan had already turned against his kind when he killed him. That means the whole lie was already in place and if he had killed Peter, people would know he was lying about being Nathan. Or if he exposed Peter as the real bomb.

Those three, especially the first, make a lot of sense. Thanks :)
 
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I don't think Nathan (Sylar) was trying to protect Peter. From the way they reacted when they finally met, it seemed more like they hadn't seen each other in a long time.

The fact that future Hiro went to Nikki to find Peter and that Peter can turn invisible, I think it was more likely that Peter went into hiding and that Sylar was never able to catch Peter. It was only when Peter decided to confront Sylar that they come face to face.
 
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Speculation time....

If you saw the preview for next week, they mentioned a small girl being the only one who is able to stop Sylar.
What power could she possibly possess that we haven't seen anyone else have yet that could stop Sylar?

I would think if Hiro is ever able to regain full control of his powers again, he could stop time when he's faced with Sylar and just kill him when he's frozen.
 
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Speculation time....

If you saw the preview for next week, they mentioned a small girl being the only one who is able to stop Sylar.
What power could she possibly possess that we haven't seen anyone else have yet that could stop Sylar?

I would think if Hiro is ever able to regain full control of his powers again, he could stop time when he's faced with Sylar and just kill him when he's frozen.
Simple just like the x-men, she naturalizes special abilities.
 
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Here's an interesting speculation from one of the members from my message board:

Qwathings said:
Is that girl that they mentioned in next week's previews the one that got away from Sylar. Remember in an earlier episode Parkman was at the scene of one of Sylar's killings and found a little girl hidden in the house. Later Sylar tried to kill her but was stopped. If she is the same girl then maybe she has the power to misdirect Sylar's own power, which is why he killed someone else and not her. He can't sense how things work when she's around. So they have her stand nearby while someone kicks the stuffing out of Sylar.
 
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Simple just like the x-men, she naturalizes special abilities.
But that was what the Haitian does. I doubt they'd have a second character do the exact same thing.
 
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But that was what the Haitian does. I doubt they'd have a second character do the exact same thing.
I think the Haitian is more of they forget how to use there abilities. (IMHO)
 
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Wow. I between last night and today I watched seven episodes! I'm all caught up, though! What a great show!

I love Matt! Come on, he's one of those guys who's on the border. In the future he turned bad, but he also helped the "lesser" mutants escape. Although he did send claire to her demise...
 
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I think the Haitian is more of they forget how to use there abilities. (IMHO)

That still seems like basically the same thing, though. Either way it's taking away someone else's powers.

I love Matt! Come on, he's one of those guys who's on the border. In the future he turned bad, but he also helped the "lesser" mutants escape. Although he did send claire to her demise...

Ugh, I still don't like his character :p
 
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That still seems like basically the same thing, though. Either way it's taking away someone else's powers.
I agree, which is partly why I think her power is different. Don't know in what way, but I'm sure it's going to be great.

Ugh, I still don't like his character :p
What? What's not to like about Matt? He's a good guy.

My favorite is still Hiro. :)
 
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No, in this future he's already saved her. We saw her, remember? I'm guessing maybe he just thinks it looks cool?



I thought they said "girlfriend"?



It was always Sylar, I believe. It would explain his turning on everyone else. He's apparently killed Candice as well.



That's probably exactly why they did it - so they wouldn't have to find another actor.




I had exactly the same thought!



Ok, so I understood most of what was going on, but one thing confused me - why would Sylar lie to protect Peter???
Ok.. Peter has the scar because he was the bomb, and when you split an atom...there has to be some scarring from that...LOL. Even with Claire's powers, it might have left a mark. Sylar killed Nathan (cuz we saw him fly away) and he wasn't protecting Peter, he was protecting himself, making everyone think that he (Sylar) was dead. That way no one would suspect him as Nathan. He even fooled Peter, remember, because Peter thought he was sparing the Petrelli name from a scandal, but that wasn't it at all.

In the original future, Sylar WAS the bomb, but future Hiro changed that when he went back in time and told Peter to save the cheerleader. Remember, he said he stabbed Sylar, but he regenerated. Saving Claire changed that, but our present Hiro left with Ando before the stabbing occured. That is why Sylar was not killed...yet. :)
 
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And the problem still remains - if Hiro stabs Sylar, it won't stop the bomb. I'm really curious how they deal with all of this.
Well the question is, why dose he go off.
If he has it under control, he shouldn't go off.
 
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In the original future, Sylar WAS the bomb, but future Hiro changed that when he went back in time and told Peter to save the cheerleader. Remember, he said he stabbed Sylar, but he regenerated. Saving Claire changed that, but our present Hiro left with Ando before the stabbing occured. That is why Sylar was not killed...yet. :)
That is what I thought as well, but based on the way things were discussed in the episode, it actually makes more sense that Peter was the bomb the entire time. Peter absorbs powers, while Sylar has to examine the brains. It isn't the number of powers that is the problem for Peter, but the fact that he takes the power of the nuclear guy.

Also, if Nathan had protected Peter by passing the blame to Sylar even in the original timeline, and if Hiro didn't see who it was who exploded, he could still have thought it was Sylar who was responsible, based on past experience with him (the failed stabbing attempt).

And the problem still remains - if Hiro stabs Sylar, it won't stop the bomb. I'm really curious how they deal with all of this.
What if Peter grabs the nuclear guy's power during his fight with Sylar? If Sylar was killed, then that battle doesn't happen, and Peter doesn't grab the power to lose control of it, or if he does, he isn't in a state where he'll have trouble with the control.

Well the question is, why dose he go off.
If he has it under control, he shouldn't go off.
Here's another thought, this pertains to the girl, Molly. What if she has a way of making powers uncontrollable? Remember, the organization works for the guy who WANTS New York to go boom. By making the power uncontrollable, it will make Sylar easier to kill, but also cause Peter to lose control and blow up.

Also, I had another thought about Ma Petrelli. What if she is the "tracking device" that Mr. Bennett and the others are going to destroy? What if her power involves being able to trace that isotope that everyone is getting injected with? They think they're going after a machine, only to learn it is a person.
 
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That is what I thought as well, but based on the way things were discussed in the episode, it actually makes more sense that Peter was the bomb the entire time. Peter absorbs powers, while Sylar has to examine the brains. It isn't the number of powers that is the problem for Peter, but the fact that he takes the power of the nuclear guy.

Also, if Nathan had protected Peter by passing the blame to Sylar even in the original timeline, and if Hiro didn't see who it was who exploded, he could still have thought it was Sylar who was responsible, based on past experience with him (the failed stabbing attempt).


What if Peter grabs the nuclear guy's power during his fight with Sylar? If Sylar was killed, then that battle doesn't happen, and Peter doesn't grab the power to lose control of it, or if he does, he isn't in a state where he'll have trouble with the control.


Here's another thought, this pertains to the girl, Molly. What if she has a way of making powers uncontrollable? Remember, the organization works for the guy who WANTS New York to go boom. By making the power uncontrollable, it will make Sylar easier to kill, but also cause Peter to lose control and blow up.

Also, I had another thought about Ma Petrelli. What if she is the "tracking device" that Mr. Bennett and the others are going to destroy? What if her power involves being able to trace that isotope that everyone is getting injected with? They think they're going after a machine, only to learn it is a person.
Have you ever seen the movie "Frequency?" I look at the time shifts in that way. Whatever changed in the past, effects the present right now, immediately. Just like Hiro going back to stop Charlie getting killed. He appeared in the photo immediately. Ando didn't feel anything different, but things had changed. That is why future Hiro didn't know that Claire had been saved. Now, how it changed that Peter became the bomb instead of Sylar... I guess we will have to wait on that one. I wish I coulda got a better look at that last comic that Isaac did...glad Mohinder believes everything now though.. :) Oh.. and good idea about Mama P. We still don't know what her power is. And little Molly must be pretty powerful for Sylar to try and get her 2x and then say he would find her later.
 
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I agree with you about the time thing (ie Frequency.. Good movie. ;)) but at the same time things seem to make a little more sense if Peter was always the bomb. Like you said, we'll just have to wait and see. ;)
 
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