Here's my problem, I believe in evolution, and it brings up doubts especially in the OT...

[TLK Valentine]

It was your assertion.

How many different languages do you need to hear it in? Adam did not die on the day he ate the fruit... even though God said he would.

If it's not coming through in your native language, it seems unlikely you'd get it in another.

 

[Extraneous]

You're not paying attention to the conversation. Not a harsh crack on you, it's really just an observation.

Could it be that the problem the OP is having with the Old Testament is that it's coming from the assumption that it's a literal, word-for-word understanding of the nature of God?

But wouldn't that only be possible if God were capable of being pigeonholed and defined in human language?

Is God capable of being so easily caged? I kind of doubt that He is.

But there are those who like their gods small and easily controlled; who am I to deny them their security?




You're so quick to assume I haven't done so -- or that I don't continue to do so...



Better questions: Do I want to live forever? Where was I before I was here? Would I wish to return?

I follow the word in my heart, as God promised. I don't need to prove my doubts, because the Lord has worked in my own life. That's my proof. The word. We all come to this conclusion eventually.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The Scriptures are all about God communicating His revelation to mankind within our limitations.

And mankind's numerous and varied failures to get the message... So what's one more?

 

[TLK Valentine]

I follow the word in my heart, as God promised. I don't need to prove my doubts, because the Lord has worked in my own life. That's my proof. The word. We all come to this conclusion eventually.

That wasn't what we were talking about.

No offense, friend, but if I wanted to hear your testimony, I'd have asked for it.

 

[Extraneous]

That wasn't what we were talking about.

No offense, friend, but if I wanted to hear your testimony, I'd have asked for it.

It answers your last post. I guess i was way ahead of you.

 

[TLK Valentine]

It answers your last post. I guess i was way ahead of you.

Keep guessing, friend.

 

[Extraneous]

Keep guessing, friend.

I have already died. How can you be ahead of me? You see only material strongholds, but i see spiritual. The bible teaches us that the material is only temporary, but the spiritual is eternal. What you see is actually an illusion. This may be a more like science fiction to you than science, but i assure you that the greatest frontier is in front of your face. You look at the age of rocks, i look at the rock of ages. My friend, i am so blessed. Thank you for giving me a chance to express it.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I have already died. How can you be ahead of me? You see only material strongholds, but i see spiritual. The bible teaches us that the material is only temporary, but the spiritual is eternal. What you see is actually an illusion. This may be a more like science fiction to you than science, but i assure you that the greatest frontier is in front of your face. You look at the age of rocks, i look at the rock of ages. My friend, i am so blessed. Thank you for giving me a chance to express it.

Starting to sound like you would've taken the chance to express it publicly regardless of what I or anyone else would have to say about it...

verily, my friend, you have your reward.

 

[Extraneous]

Starting to sound like you would've taken the chance to express it publicly regardless of what I or anyone else would have to say about it...

verily, my friend, you have your reward.

Not the case here.

 

[Extraneous]

TKL Valentine-

What you just did was misapply a scripture. It didn't apply to me at all, because it applies to those who boast in their good deeds. I have nothing to boast in, and that's why i'm boasting. What i have has been given to me freely. I earned nothing.

 

[redleghunter]

How many different languages do you need to hear it in? Adam did not die on the day he ate the fruit... even though God said he would.

If it's not coming through in your native language, it seems unlikely you'd get it in another.

Ok understand you like drive by theology. Welcome to Christian Forums.

 

[redleghunter]

And mankind's numerous and varied failures to get the message... So what's one more?

To each as God gives light. Some 100 fold, some ten and some 1.

Those who much is given much is expected.

 

[PsychoSarah]

If the above isn't pride...then what is.

XD sir, I am just very aware of my strengths and weaknesses. I found it funny, because I know pride isn't the issue. I am impatient. I am quick to anger. I am pretty darn lazy. If I put the 7 sins in order from most to least present in my person, they would go Wrath, Sloth, Gluttony, Envy, Greed, Lust, and Pride. My concern for what others think of me is dangerously low, and I have chronic self-loathing. If I had more pride, I would probably be a happier person. Quite frankly, if I believed in an afterlife, I probably would have killed myself years ago. As it were, the fear of complete oblivion stays my hand.

Do not mistake brutal, honest insight into my person for pride just because I found the suggestion that pride of all things is causing me problems funny. It's super funny to me because I am doomed to an extreme self-awareness of how much I hate myself. Every accomplishment I have ever had feels like garbage, or barely meeting expectations.

 

[PsychoSarah]

The above has to be the most bizarre statement I've seen on CF to date.

You haven't seen much then. My point is that, for a single deity creating the universe to be so intuitive that nonbelievers have no excuse, there were a lot of civilizations that had no inclination towards that conclusion.

 

[Jimmy D]

Also, perhaps you need to drop the biblical bias that favors you. The world isn't obviously created by any particular deity; if that was the case, Judaism and perhaps Christianity would have been among Native North and South Americans prior to Europeans going there.

The above has to be the most bizarre statement I've seen on CF to date.

I agree with Sarah, it seems strange that Noah's descendants were so quick to forget the destruction God brought down on mankind with the flood. It's almost as if it didn't happen.

 

[TLK Valentine]

TKL Valentine-

What you just did was misapply a scripture. It didn't apply to me at all, because it applies to those who boast in their good deeds. I have nothing to boast in, and that's why i'm boasting. What i have has been given to me freely. I earned nothing.

So don't let me stop you boasting.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Ok understand you like drive by theology. Welcome to Christian Forums.

Got nothing, hmm?

 

[TLK Valentine]

To each as God gives light. Some 100 fold, some ten and some 1.

Those who much is given much is expected.

Nice platitudes. May they serve you well.

 

[redleghunter]

You haven't seen much then. My point is that, for a single deity creating the universe to be so intuitive that nonbelievers have no excuse, there were a lot of civilizations that had no inclination towards that conclusion.

How would you know that?

 

[redleghunter]

Got nothing, hmm?

No, you handed in an incomplete report. I am being nice and giving you extra white space to complete your thought before giving you an "F".