Here is the quote that changed forever my view of EGW

[Dave-W]

I have no idea, I thought SDA was anti Charismatic.
Evangelicals sometimes consider a divide from Charismatic beliefs pertaining to Spiritual gifts etc.

I assumed SDA is a conservative Evangelical denomination.
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Are there different doctrines among SDA?

I am not sure if the difference between the various wings of the SDA are doctrinal or just emphasis and culture.

I do know there is a small wing called "The Celebration Churches" that is fully charismatic but most of the SDA is anticharismatic, especially the traditionalist sector. John Carter (SDA evangelist) is a leader in the Evangelical wing but seems to be somewhat pro-charismatic. He speaks openly of miracles happening at his outreach events. www.cartereport.org

 

[BobRyan]

I have no idea, I thought SDA was anti Charismatic.
Evangelicals sometimes consider a divide from Charismatic beliefs pertaining to Spiritual gifts etc.

I assumed SDA is a conservative Evangelical denomination.

Are there different doctrines among SDA?

SDAs believe in the 1Cor 12 gifts - but we do not believe that was passes for spiritual gifts in many popular settings is the real deal. So then you don't see speaking in tongues or faith healing among SDAs -- but we believe that the NT church had those gifts and that God could give that to someone today - in its real form.

And we believe all doctrine and tradition should be tested "sola scriptura".

 

[BobRyan]

I do know there is a small wing called "The Celebration Churches" that is fully charismatic

I have attended a number of "celebration churches" and none of them were "fully charismatic" though they had possibly a handful of visitors and new members that were.

 

[BobRyan]

The paragragph that Changed my life........@ page 83 paragraph 4, you will find the following quote " What troubled the obstinate Smith was not so much the specific theology of Jones and Waggoner so much as Ellen Whites Role in supporting it. The venerable editor had understood her to condemned the position on the basis of a vision in 1856 when Waggoner's father had advocated the same Idea. (That was the problem).....It preplexed Smith that Ellen White could do an about face and endorse what she fromerly opposed. He was sure there had to be a conspirisy afoot.https://books.google.com/books?id=5...ce=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

no page 83 at that link

 

[now faith]

SDAs believe in the 1Cor 12 gifts - but we do not believe that was passes for spiritual gifts in many popular settings is the real deal. So then you don't see speaking in tongues or faith healing among SDAs -- but we believe that the NT church had those gifts and that God could give that to someone today - in its real form.

And we believe all doctrine and tradition should be tested "sola scriptura".

That makes good sense to me, because it is right out of God's Word.

To over emphasize the gifts that everyone in Church has them is not what Paul taught.

To somehow say they were done away with has no Biblical foundation.

So much that is taught is based on theory of God's Word ,in doing this it requires interpretation beyond what the Author has written.

A theory is a presumptuous conclusion , that is based on ignorance of a subject.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

no page 83 at that link

you have to click on the link and then go to page 83, it will not take you there automatically

 

[BobRyan]

Well I paged down at that link and it only took me to something in the 70's

Then I tried again just now and it said "pages 34 through 104 are not shown in this preview"