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Lorie,
Have you tried a separation from him yet? Maybe sometime without him being around every day. Sometimes this helps to sort through your feelings without him being there all the time. Also during this time get some counceling for yourself and maybe later with him. Maybe try being friends for awhile without the intimacy which you had mentioned in a previous post.

I am a divorced person and I would suggest doing that first. Otherwise you are not setting a good example for your children as I'm sure they can sense things. I will not lie here. I was the one who wanted the divorce as I tried and tried to communicate with my X and he wouldn't listen or I got rude comments back. So I divorced him. (There were a lot of issues not just one, I know also with marrying quick that you don't always see through the rose colored glasses). Think of your children here though. Do they see a loving family or can they tell that you resent him? They need to be in a loving environment.
 
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Lorie, You keep coming and asking advice and saying that advice is not working. So, I decided I will give you some advice. I want you to sincerely follow it to the tee. I assume that you do not wish to be unhappy for the rest of your life, and that you are desperate. In that case you should be willing to try anything. If you are not willing to sincerely follow my advice then I do not know how else to help you.

Here goes:
First, you want a manly leader husband. You can bring this aspect out in a man by being a submissive surrendered wife. He will then naturally want to lead and protect you. It will take a while since you have already ingrained other ideas of a marriage into both your heads. By being submissive I mean to drastically start putting this into practice. Do not stop just cuz he does not start leading immeadiatley. I am sure he will come around.
Some ideas for surrendering are, start sitting at his feet on the floor when he goes online or watches tv at night. You can even massage his feet as you sit there. Lean your head against his leg. I know you hate this idea and probably find it humiliating, but you are not happy with your life the way it is right now, so how can it make anything worse?
Make meals he likes. Do not tell him how to dress. Do not tell him how to drive, and always let him drive. If he goes somewhere after work always say," Oh, I wanna come to," in a happy enthusiastic manner.
Do not tell him that you have to go somewhere or do something in a manner that conveys that you are in charge of anything, including your job. Do not correct the way he deals with the kids. Never interrupt him and try to look at him as he talks.
Start having sex. Be very vulnerable. Take some polaroid pics of you in sexy poses or make a video of you stripping and send them to him in the mail. Wear something sexy to bed. Prepare to be flat out rejected at first, but keep trying. After you are in bed at night, touch him lovingly. If he at all responds to this then do not reject his advances. Muster all the passion in the world and act like he is the grandest thing there is.
Do not demand sex, but make yourself plainly available and where he could not mistake your intent. Aim for having sex every night, yes, I said EVERY night. He may not respond at all at first as he tests the waters and your intent. He may not want sex that often, but the idea and submissive sexual attitude will greatly help your marriage.

If your marriage is boring and lifeless than quit wailing and liven it up. Squirt him with a squirt gun when he gets in the door. Light candles with dinner. Make a birthday cake and get some nice gifts and give him a pretend extra birthday party. If you make him feel like you are giving him complete love, acceptance and devotion, then he will start to change. If you are always happy and cheerful and thrilled to be in his prescence, he will want to be a strong man for you. If you pout, ignore him, avoid sex, control your own life, and tell him you feel nothing towards him then he is not going to turn into the man of your dreams.
Yes, you may not sincerely feel some of the things I am telling you to portray, but if you sincerely repent of your ungrateful, controling, lustful, discontent attitude, to your husband and to God, then God can start to work in your life and change your heart for real.
You said that you think God wants you to work this out on your own. That sounds like you are trying to make God into a wimp too, and that you can not even stand to be under His control.
Any guy that you marry will probably end up becoming a wimp in your eyes. You have to quit being the boss of anything. You need to see your husband as a capable man. He can hold a good job, but can't pay a single bill??? Come on! I don't believe that. If you come to your hubby with a repentant voice, heart , and attitude, and want to be a submissive uncontroling HAPPY wife, and you explain that paying the bills tempts you to be controling and to feel superior to him and then you give him ALL your checkbooks and credit cards, he could pay the bills. If he does not think you are serious, the lights may get shut off once or twice, big deal. Tell him you were trying to be the boss but you can't handle it, it is breeding discontent in your heart. If you want to buy something, politely ask him if you can have so much money for such and such. If he says no, then too bad. Go practice being content.

You have a very bad extreme problem, and it calls for great measures to rectify it.

If you do not like the idea of doing what I advised and are not willing and ready to repent, then I doubt anyone here is gonna be able to help you.

Oh, and try listening to your husband instead of starting and leading the home conversations. Respond eagerly to what he says. You can of course give compliments theat are sincere through the day. Always put him abiove the kids.

I feel you would be better off cutting down your hours at work or quiting work, since the men there tempt you and it seems to be unhealthy for you since you seem to be very controling and probably think you could support yourself without him. start depending on him more.
Also, I have news for you. Leaving is easier than sticking it out with some woman who does not love you and is constantly discontent. So your hubby sticking around does not mean he is a wimp. I am sure he is acting much wimpier than he would if he had a submissive surrendered wife, though.
You do not need the most exciting, sexiest, handsomest, etc. husband to be totally happy. It would be quite easy for any of us wives to find tons of things to be discontent with are husbands over. we make a concious effort to overlook the things we do not like, and to love our husbands even if they are not the cutest guy alive, the thinnest, the best in bed, or too quiet , or whatever. we are not all married to some super humans. we are married to some guy, just like you.
Some of us maybe did not marry the smartest, or most economical, or wealthiest guy. Some of us married atheiests, or people who never graduated from highschool.
If you want an exciting happy marriage then stasrt believing in it and put every ounce of effort into it.
If you are unwilling to give up your selfish standards, controlling, dominating personality, and are not willing to be a very vulnerable open wife, then just forget it.
 
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Enigna,

Lets just say that there is no way in this life i would ever sit at any mans feet. I will not quit my job because i find myself in my work. I would go completly crazy if i was to stay home. That is not who i am. And as you know i have a very big problem with trying to be something i am not. the most submissive i would ever be with anyone would be a 50/50 relationship.

I know what you are saying about the listening and the squirt gun. (By the way he would never turn me down for sex) but when i try these things i feel physically ill. i grit my teeth and i have to leave the room for fear of someone seeing the look on my face.

I dont tell my husband what to do or anything like that in fact the only conversations we have is regarding the kids or the house etc.

Thanks for the specific action advice tho that is what i am looking for. i am a take action kinda girl. (in most things)

I guess the bottom line is i dont want to try anymore i think trying makes things worse. Trying brings it all up front all the time and it just makes me realize how bad it really is.

sorry for being the way i am but this is me and i guess i have to learn to work around they way i am and the way i feel.
 
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Lorie said:
see i dont think it is the thrill i am seeking i thnk it is the deepness of a relationship that i am looking for. I would love to be bored in a relationship with someone i loved.

Why not your husband? And before you say you don't love your husband, remember this: we CHOOSE who we love. You can choose to love your husband. You are married to him and God intends for you both to be the husband and wife to the other that He created you to be.

I pray that you and your husband can restore your marriage and that neither of you would look upon any another in a 'seeking love' type of way.
 
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Lorie said:
I guess the bottom line is i dont want to try anymore .

Not personally for you Lorie, but I must say that THIS is the very reason our families are falling apart today. Pure selfishness. People think it's all about 'ME' and they don't want to make it about anything else - not even their children and families and God.
 
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Lets just say that there is no way in this life i would ever sit at any mans feet. I will not quit my job because i find myself in my work. I would go completly crazy if i was to stay home. That is not who i am. And as you know i have a very big problem with trying to be something i am not. the most submissive i would ever be with anyone would be a 50/50 relationship.


Then you will never have the kind of marriage you want. You would rather cry in rest rooms and be lonely and be miserable than to sit at a man's feet. There is no way to help if you are only willing to give 50 percent. YOu are unwilling to change your work situation or to surrender yourself to your hubby but you want your hubby to be manly. You want to get a different outcome, but are only willing to put in the same input.

I do not go to work outside the home, and I sit at my husbands feet, and I have a happy marriage. I am willing to exchange being the leader and being in charge of my life for a relationship where I am adored and held by a masculine controlling man. as I have changed and submitted my husband haskept the balance by changing too. My husbnand is not a wimp, although we used to have a much different relationship. we have been married over 8 years, and I have changed a lot in that time.

You think your job is so important and what you really need, yet I do not see this fulfilling you. I see you lusting after guys at work, and trying not to be fully dependant on your husband. You seem unhappy. Your job did not fulfill you....

You have to seriously give if you want to seriously get.

IF you do not want to fix anything longer, becauise when you face the problem, you actually sdee how horrific it is; then why are you in here? This is a Christian forum.

P.S. If you read trashy romance novels, watch tv shows where there are sexy guys, etc. you will be tearing your own house down, and I just thought I would throw that out there cuz they breed lust. also, you should quit emailing that guy you had the affair with and quit being so friendly with guys at work.


why is it so sickening to play with your hubby? Why do you grit your teeth? It sounds like you treat him worse than a dog.
 
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Lorie said:
Enigna,

Lets just say that there is no way in this life i would ever sit at any mans feet.

Lorie,

Do you think your better than God? Do you remember that Jesus washed his disiples feet?
What is more humble than that? Jesus was submissive unto death.

Do you realize that we are all submissive to someone?

One day you will bow at the feet of Jesus, I hope you do not have this same attitude then.
 
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Mrs. Enigma said:
P.S. If you read trashy romance novels, watch tv shows where there are sexy guys, etc. you will be tearing your own house down, and I just thought I would throw that out there cuz they breed lust. also, you should quit emailing that guy you had the affair with and quit being so friendly with guys at work.

I cant even watch a romantic movie or listen to country music because of the way i feel. makes me cry.

the affair man asked me to see him again yesterday. I wont because i wont give my heart away again. it almost killed me the last time i gave it to him. (just an update)
 
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Lorie said:
that is my point my husband is not my lord and master and jesus is the only one i would do that for

Lorie,

You are not bowing at Jesus feet now!!!

You think that life is rough now, wait tell your sins are exposed.

God is not mocked, Lorie you will reap what you sow. It may be today, it may be down the road. But your children and all those you love and hold dear will know what you have done.
 
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Ache For Heaven said:
Lorie,

You are not bowing at Jesus feet now!!!

You think that life is rough now, wait tell your sins are exposed.

God is not mocked, Lorie you will reap what you sow. It may be today, it may be down the road. But your children and all those you love and hold dear will know what you have done.

I Know
 
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There's a saying about the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and over again, but expecting different results each time.

Lorie, I don't know why you started this thread. I don't know what kind of advice you are looking for. Now you are saying that you don't even want to try anymore. What was the point of this whole thread then, if you don't want to take any of the advice given to you because you don't want to try anything?

You can keep doing the same things you have been doing. But you will continue to receive the same results. Your life will never change.

My best advice at this point is to give your husband a divorce. You committed adultery, so he won't be affected by a divorce (in a Biblical way I mean, I'm sure he'll be emotionally affected, but I believe he will be better off). You're interested in having more affairs anyway, so if you're going to commit adultery again you may as well not be married when you do it. Then at least your husband will be able to move on with his life.

Good luck to you. I'm still praying for you.
 
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