Here’s how the first proteins might have assembled, sparking life

Larniavc · Sunday at 5:20 AM

Zaha Torte said:
So like how water turns into ice. Different forms.

No. Not at all. You are describing a phase change of state. States of matter are not part of ToE.

If you don’t understand why you need to have a greater understanding of the phases of matter before going any further.

The various states of matter are a fascinating topic but it’s not ToE.

NxNW · Sunday at 9:35 AM

AV1611VET said:
These four species are products of microevolution, not macroevolution.

As I understand it, the theory of evolution states that all change happens via speciation, and that every organism is the same species as its parents and offspring.

Given that, what's an example of macroevolution that happens within those constraints?

Hans Blaster · Sunday at 10:37 AM

Ophiolite said:
Are you unable to find any examples where scientists, not the media, have inflated the importance of their research?

I can think of a few, but the rest of us despise those people. (There is one in this space, but he isn't even an actual researcher on abiogenesis, just another creature of the DI.)

Hvizsgyak · Sunday at 12:57 PM

When Eye-Grabbing Results Just Don’t Pan Out

Is a drive to publish in prestigious scientific journals leading researchers to overstate their findings as the next big breakthrough?

www.sciencefriday.com

Has life been created in the laboratory?

No life has been created, there is no artificial life. There is only an artificial DNA, which can function as a natural one.

bioethicsobservatory.org

Can We Solve the Mystery of the Origin of Life by Creating Life in the Lab?

Origin-of-life projects continue to head off in dozens of directions to nowhere.

scienceandculture.com

Hans Blaster · Sunday at 2:06 PM

Hvizsgyak said:
When Eye-Grabbing Results Just Don’t Pan Out

Is a drive to publish in prestigious scientific journals leading researchers to overstate their findings as the next big breakthrough?

www.sciencefriday.com

Not the issue at hand.

Hvizsgyak said:
Has life been created in the laboratory?

No life has been created, there is no artificial life. There is only an artificial DNA, which can function as a natural one.

bioethicsobservatory.org

Not sure what the point of that was. It seemed like some sort of weird hand wringing about the ethics of escaped artificial life.

Hvizsgyak said:
Can We Solve the Mystery of the Origin of Life by Creating Life in the Lab?

Origin-of-life projects continue to head off in dozens of directions to nowhere.

scienceandculture.com

DI drivel.

Hvizsgyak said:

An actual OOL researcher (Lee Cronin) but unfortunately interviewed poorly by a podcaster who'd prefer to pontificate from his own lack of knowledge.

AV1611VET · Sunday at 3:01 PM

NxNW said:
As I understand it, the theory of evolution states that all change happens via speciation, and that every organism is the same species as its parents and offspring.

Given that, what's an example of macroevolution that happens within those constraints?

Macroevolution would be one kind (genus) giving birth to another kind (genus).

Or, more specifically, one population of genus producing another population of genus.

For instance, a population of Eohippus eventually giving rise to a population of Equus.

Hvizsgyak · Sunday at 5:10 PM

Hans Blaster said:
Not the issue at hand.

Not sure what the point of that was. It seemed like some sort of weird hand wringing about the ethics of escaped artificial life.

DI drivel.

An actual OOL researcher (Lee Cronin) but unfortunately interviewed poorly by a podcaster who'd prefer to pontificate from his own lack of knowledge.

I just love how you pooh pooh everyone and everything you don't agree with. These videos again are for the less fortunate who feel they don't always trust the long winded responses of many scientists when they claim some breakthrough has been made in a particular field of science when in actuality that wasn't the case.

Hans Blaster · Sunday at 5:18 PM

Hvizsgyak said:
I just love how you pooh pooh everyone and everything you don't agree with. These videos again are for the less fortunate who feel they don't always trust the long winded responses of many scientists when they claim some breakthrough has been made in a particular field of science when in actuality that wasn't the case.

You posted *one* video. Half of it was some nitwit (Lex Fridman) propounding on his own ignorance.

Ophiolite · Sunday at 5:57 PM

Hvizsgyak said:
I just love how you pooh pooh everyone and everything you don't agree with. These videos again are for the less fortunate who feel they don't always trust the long winded responses of many scientists when they claim some breakthrough has been made in a particular field of science when in actuality that wasn't the case.

And you continue, rather rudely, to refuse to provide an instance - with proper citations - where this is the case. May I expect such discourtesy and avoidance to continue?

Hvizsgyak · Sunday at 6:04 PM

Ophiolite said:
And you continue, rather rudely, to refuse to provide an instance - with proper citations - where this is the case. May I expect such discourtesy and avoidance to continue?

You bet .

MSN

Hvizsgyak · Sunday at 7:22 PM

Hans Blaster said:
Not the issue at hand.

Not sure what the point of that was. It seemed like some sort of weird hand wringing about the ethics of escaped artificial life.

DI drivel.

An actual OOL researcher (Lee Cronin) but unfortunately interviewed poorly by a podcaster who'd prefer to pontificate from his own lack of knowledge.

I really enjoy reading your comebacks. They are inspirational.

Hans Blaster · Sunday at 7:26 PM

Hvizsgyak said:
I really enjoy reading your comebacks. They are inspirational.

I hope it inspires you to make better media choices. Cheers.

River Jordan · Sunday at 8:25 PM

Hvizsgyak said:
You bet .

MSN

Apologies to @Ophiolite for interrupting, but what exactly is the problem with that article? Is it what I talked about earlier with you, where it's basically comes down to how scientists reach conclusions you don't like?

Zaha Torte · Sunday at 11:34 PM

River Jordan said:
I'm not sure what your point is. The newly generated species reproduce on their own and can't reproduce with their parent species. If that's not a new species, what do you think is a new species?

If you're actually denying that new species can arise, you're really out on your own island. IIRC even YEC organizations don't deny it (it's how two members of a "cat kind" can produce all the current species of cats after the flood).

My point is I don't see how selected breeding in a lab among similar species proves how humans came from mushrooms.

Hans Blaster · Monday at 12:02 AM

Zaha Torte said:
My point is I don't see how selected breeding in a lab among similar species proves how humans came from mushrooms.

That would be very silly. Mammals don't derive from fungi.

AV1611VET · Monday at 5:54 AM

Hans Blaster said:
Mammals don't derive from fungi.

Are we stardust?

River Jordan · Monday at 10:02 AM

Zaha Torte said:
My point is I don't see how selected breeding in a lab among similar species proves how humans came from mushrooms.

I don't either but I've never seen anyone make that argument.

AV1611VET · Monday at 10:39 AM

River Jordan said:
I don't either but I've never seen anyone make that argument.

What's interesting is that evolutionists can [allegedly] trace our lineage back millions of years to apes out of Africa, yet can't find us as offsprings of Shem, Ham, or Japheth.

Aaron112 · Monday at 10:45 AM

Zaha Torte said:
My point is I don't see how selected breeding in a lab among similar species proves how humans came from mushrooms.

It might be easy to see
if it's the right mushrooms being used at the time of studying it all.... no restrictions on right or wrong, true or false, fact or fairy tale. The (so-called) "proof" is in the hallucinations of the beholder(s).

Aaron112 · Monday at 10:47 AM

Ophiolite said:
And you continue, rather rudely, to refuse to provide an instance - with proper citations - where this is the case.

To me that's not something rude, just observations of possible truth without couching it in some way to make it less painful for the deluded. or to say another way - straight up honesty ! Blunt Honesty.

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