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Meatros · Dec 19, 2003

TruthTraveler said:
Why? Because your a HOMO?

Dude, was that necessary? Did it make you feel all warm?

bmount1217 · Dec 19, 2003

Being able to answer a question and being able to give the correct answer to a question are very different things. I can answer any possible question - I am just not arrogant enough to say that all my answers will necessarily reflect reality.

I applaud your faith

Pete Harcoff · Dec 19, 2003

Modus said:
The measuring of light is horribly inaccurate.

How so?

Scientists have been able to slow light to a dead stop with the right conditions as well as speed it up more than a factor of 100.

Actually, light has not been speed up by a factor of 100 (those so-called "speed of light broken" stories from a couple years back were a case of media hype and misunderstanding of the experiment involved). And as far as slowing down light, that doesn't help the creationist case.

And unless these experiments apply to the vacuum of space, it doesn't matter what scientists do to the speed of light. After all, just because an experiment can be done under specific conditions that affect the speed of light, doesn't mean that it will apply outside of those conditions.

TruthTraveler · Dec 19, 2003

Meatros said:
What is his PhD in and where did he get it?

No Clue
[size=-1]Patriot University

They made a page just for Hovind LOL
http://www.patriotuniversity.com/PriceOfTruth.asp
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ForeRunner · Dec 19, 2003

bmount1217 said:
What cause your so called "expansion of dense materials"?...nothing? it jsut happened?

That is one of the possibilities. The universe just may be a quantum fluctuation where 4 of the dimensions falied to stop expanding. Stuff "kust happens" all the time.

bmount1217 · Dec 19, 2003

Pete wheres is this evidence...without posting links please

Meatros · Dec 19, 2003

TruthTraveler said:
No Clue
[size=-1]Patriot University

They made a page just for Hovind LOL
http://www.patriotuniversity.com/PriceOfTruth.asp
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No clue, eh?

That's exactly what I thought. Now, riddle me this: Is Patriot University accredited?

(quick, do a google search!)

TruthTraveler · Dec 19, 2003

Meatros said:
Dude, was that necessary? Did it make you feel all warm?

What other reason would he ignore a YEC Conservative Christian for?

STAY IN CANADA!

Modus · Dec 19, 2003

is it always just a bunch of bickering in these threads. This is my first day actually participating on this forum and so far I am not impressed with the way people (expecially christians) are talking. Lets have an intellegent disscusion please.

Sheseala · Dec 19, 2003

shh! pretend I didn't post here!

Physics_guy · Dec 19, 2003

The measuring of light is horribly inaccurate. Scientists have been able to slow light to a dead stop with the right conditions as well as speed it up more than a factor of 100. ill get references in a little bit.

YEah, you do that - and make sure you show me how individual photons has been "sped up" to more than a factor of 100. I did graduate school work in particle physics with Chiao at Berkeley who is one of the leading experts on superluminal travel (i.e. movement of particles at speeds greater than the speed of light in a vacuum) - so far there is absolute no evidence that any information can ever travel at faster than the speed of light in a vacuum, and there is a lot of reason why it cannot.

Please learn a little bit more about the subject before you start spouting nonesense.

bmount1217 · Dec 19, 2003

Forerunner...I got a better idea....God the creator Expanded the dense matter? Possible? The quantum fluctation had to start from something...Ive never seen a car start itself

ForeRunner · Dec 19, 2003

Modus said:
The measuring of light is horribly inaccurate. Scientists have been able to slow light to a dead stop with the right conditions as well as speed it up more than a factor of 100. ill get references in a little bit.

Light slows down and changes shape all the time, that is why you can see clear objects, it is called refraction. c is thre speed of light in a vaccum.

Meatros · Dec 19, 2003

TruthTraveler said:
What other reason would he ignore a YEC Conservative Christian for?

STAY IN CANADA!

I can see why he'd ignore you; you have nothing to offer except insults and ignorance.

Tell me though, let's flip this around, why should anyone *not* ignore you?

TruthTraveler · Dec 19, 2003

Meatros said:
No clue, eh?

That's exactly what I thought. Now, riddle me this: Is Patriot University accredited?

(quick, do a google search!)

Meatros · Dec 19, 2003

TruthTraveler said:

Yes, I already know what it looks like, but tell me, is it accredited?

ForeRunner · Dec 19, 2003

bmount1217 said:
Forerunner...I got a better idea....God the creator Expanded the dense matter? Possible? The quantum fluctation had to start from something...Ive never seen a car start itself

That IS one of the possibilities, but that also begs the question of where did god come from... is he a quantum fluctuation?

TruthTraveler · Dec 19, 2003

Meatros said:
why should anyone *not* ignore you?

Because my Mentors are my Tormentors!

Words to live by.

Pete Harcoff · Dec 19, 2003

Modus said:
is it always just a bunch of bickering in these threads. This is my first day actually participating on this forum and so far I am not impressed with the way people (expecially christians) are talking. Lets have an intellegent disscusion please.

Actually, there is intelligent discussion here (browse around the forum, and you'll find some threads; check for posts by TrueCreation, a good example of a creationist discussing things properly). Occationally, however, threads degenerate into a bunch of meaningless rhetoric (sorry about that, btw).

However, you're not the first person to note this happening and not the first person to admonish other creationists, either.

TruthTraveler · Dec 19, 2003

Meatros said:
Yes, I already know what it looks like, but tell me, is it accredited?

LOL, looks at it.

In one word NO.

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