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ceres

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mollyj your advice was excellent on re-falling in love. :)

and to piggytail, if you give him an ultimatum it would not be permission. it is simply a second chance.... or at least a "last" change even if not second. she still has interest in making it work so we should encourage her in ways to make it work not tell her she should give up! i dont know if i could do it, but ive never been in that situation.....

I have further recommendations after thinking about this more. If he has cheated three times and been able to cover it up, even have sex with you at the same time as the others it is obvious that "acting nice" or "doing his part" is in no way an indication that he is doing what is right. From experience, we know that he can act nice and do wrong.

first thing, COUNSELING.

Secondly, what i said earlier, DOES HE INDICATE HE WANTS TO CHANGE? if so, this is what I would do. you should know where he is at all times, no time going out by himself, no working late without you calling the physical work place and checking at random times and intervals. cell phones will no work they could be answered anywhere/anytime. i think ACCOUNTABILITY is what your husband requires if he wants this marriage to work. if he loves you, he will understand, and he will want accountability because he would know that he has the possibility of falling into "wrong"/sin again if you are not helping him. if he wants that possibility of falling again, he will rebel. He will say to you "i need my space" or "i feel like you don't trust me." It isn't about that anymore. He no longer deserves space (what would he need it for anyway other than to cheat? he can spend time at home in your bedroom or living room by himself, and call that space) and he no longer deserves trust.

If someone had a problem with pornography and wanted to stop, what would it require? someone having "contol" over the porn-addicts computer access or however pornography was accessed. you need to have "control" over his access to women.... his "personal" time...

It would do no good to only fall in love with him again and trust him if he cannot control his addiction to having another woman. And a lot of the time it is an addiction, an emotional high. There are many reasons for this. The addict will make any excuse or reason to keep his space from accountability.

I know right now he is gone, but it is something to think about.
 
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Your responses have made a lot of sense.. I suppose looking back he always acted interested in me so I never knew what was going on.. but this time, after this last affair he finally admitted it fully.. I gave him the chance to leave right there.. I told him, "if you love this woman, because she is in love with you, you need to pack your bags. We can call her, she can pick you up, and then we can both move on. But if you want to stay we have to make some things clear." Well he told me that he wanted to stay, he realized he was wrong.. this and that.. one of my stipulations was that in order to have a future I had to stop worrying about the past.. I did not want to always wonder, were there others? I asked him to tell me who else there was that I did not know about.. he told me no one. 4 months later I got a call from the girl whom he had slept with several years ago.. she had just been saved and wanted to tell me what happened. I guess he forgot that one.

So, I confronted him about it and asked him why he did not tell me about her. he said he did not think it would help things.. I told him I believed he was full of cr*p, that he thought it would not help HIM and that is why he never told me about her. Things were rough there for a while after. God and I had an agreement, that if he cheated one more time, I was free to go with His blessing. I told hubby that as well. When I found out about the old affair hubby asked me if I was leaving.. I told him I would have to pray on that.

That even was 5 months ago. Since then, he has been around me all the time, always accountable for the most part, he never goes out.. always complimenting me.. I have been trying harder to get close to him again, to show him I care about him and to try to rekindle *something* within our relationship.. but I just am not sure if I am doing the best thing for myself and my kids. I know he loves me, and I love him, but I am still afraid he will do this again.

I guess I am just venting again.. my fear gets the best of me at times and then I have a tendancy to go over every single detail of every conversation and action that has happened over the last 9 years.

Whatever happens, I just want God's will to be done.

Thank you everyone again.
 
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Things are ok right now.. I have been working on homeschooling my son, which has been a challenge. he is only 5, and the stress of our move, dad at war, it was just too much to add school to it. He was having very bad fits at school. I took him out last week, and have been praying over him each morning, and throughout the day and he has really been a happy boy. I myself am bonding better with God now that I am back fully in prayer. Again, trying to get myself stable again, we will see from there. I have only heard from my husband a couple times asking me to send him things. We can't really talk at all.. I am thinking just keep my letters short and sweet.. I dont want to stress him out while he is there by bringing anything up. Other than that, things are ok here in our neck of the woods. Thank you for asking :)
 
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piggytail said:
By taking him back 3 times (or more) after cheating, you are basically giving him permission to do it time and time again. You owe it to yourself to get out of this "arrangement", and find yourself a Godly man who will keep himself for you and only you.

I for one am glad that our God does not have this attitude about US
 
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Sure, it's nice that God doesn't have that attitude about us, but I've been in her shoes. I'm former military (got out 3 weeks before my son was born.) A year later had our second child and went back to the states to so both sets of parents could see their grandkids. Because my husband was lonely, he had an affair with the next door neighbor. He was sorry, said it would never happen again. But it did, several times. He refused to go to counseling.

As humans, and there's human nature, how many times do we "turn the other cheek" so to speak, and keep on forgiving and this keep happening?

I came to the decision that I had to leave. My ex got engaged to someone else, wasn't even faithful to her. They broke it off, he remarried another woman and he's divorced from her after 2 years of marriage. He's on his 3rd marriage.

Me? I raised my kids for 8 years by myself until God blessed me with a wonderful man who I married 7 years ago.

Sorry to be long winded, but I think Emerald may come to that point. Does she continue to go through that? Or does she keep taking him back?

Emerald, I'll keep in you in my prayers. I've been there. But I do know you'll need strength because it's not easy to forgive and forget.

rookie
 
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Thank you all.. The past week has been interesting.. I started loosing major clumps of hair I have been so stressed! I have been so stressed out wondering what to do, how to feel, Gods will in all of this.. I spent the last seriously meditating on the word, and praying.. What I got from this, is that I am in a new season in my life. This is not meant to be a season of worry for me, or a season of stress but of growth. I learned that I have spent too much time worrying about what to do and where to go and that showed a lack of trust that God would show me the way when I was ready to take it and that it would be the right path! Over the next 9 months, I am to grow back into a close and personal relationship with God again. it will be a time to strengthen my roots, and will foster my faith. When I am ready, he will show me what I am to do, and whatever it is, I will be able to handle it after this season is over and I enter the next.

So.. it seems strange to say, but it is all about me right now. I can't expect to do anything right if I am not right with my Father first :)
 
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Please read the book "Love Must Be Tough" by Dr James Dobson. It addresses the exact issues you are having and provides good advice.

You have Biblical grounds to divorce him. It sounds to me like he wants the benefits of marriage without the committment. Unless he has shown signs of regret and Godly sorrow over his previous affairs, you can expect him to continue to betray you.

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Emerald, I know that YOU can see that this is not the time for the divorce that others seem to advocate. They don't seem to hear you saying that your husband IS doing the right things but that you don't yet feel right. Don't let them discourage you. You are working on you and your relationship with God right now and that is best but especially now that you can't work on much with your husband. God will work on him too. Pray and stay in His word.

Oh btw, Emerald may never have to forgive again because God CAN work miracles. But you know what...my Bible says seventy times seven...
 
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Just wanted to update you all.. I havenot been around much the last week since I have been working really hard on some web sites I am building for some extra holiday money.. but things are ok.. I have been working on myself more lately which is a good thing.. my hubby sent me a letter which was confusing. In one sentence he said how much he missed me and loved me, and then in the next said that he was not as sad as the other guys who have not been able to come home for 2 weeks to see family, since he is used to our distance. Maybe I am reading too much into that one.. who knows.. but at any rate, I am doing well as are my children.. hoping to save enough money to fly home so we don't have to spend Christmas by ourselves. Well.. back to work! Thank you ALL for your prayers and thoughts!
 
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Wo would you like to be on dead doors and your;ll husdand brang s his gril frend to see you. And you are getting ready for a 4 by-pass on you iwere a lone i had know one but me . I beg god to take me , I make peace with eveyone even said i'm sorry to a few. i gave up . and want happen i wake up and a am living . boy did that make me mad. to fgiv. i face it ever days . but if he is truetly sorry for want he did ,them he souldn't mind puting god in the mddle of his marrege . my didn't it hard cause we are human i fight with it all the time .i am sick and dieding and my husband dosen't care'
 
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