Hello I have a Question.

[andreha]

Hello everyone, I'm new here and posted some topics a while ago some pointless and stupid if anyone remembers.

Anyway my question is:

What do you think the next phase of human soiciety/way of life is going to be like? Like with previous religions and empires, they all change and or dissapear eventually.

What do you think will happen to religions like christianity and islam eventually? Do you think it will stay forever or eventually be replaced by something else?

What I think is that in the next 200-400 years, as the world and all its cultures merge these theistic religions especially will be whittled down to nothing but a few cults and one philosophy or religion will dominate humanity. This also depends on if we don't go and nuke each other. It will probably be a mixture of humanism and budhism i think. Also this change would obviously be accelerated or fueled by the influence of technology, TV and scientific exploration.

But thats just what I think, I have nothing against others beliefs anymore. I've had enough of all the arguments.

So what do you think?

All of mankind will be destroyed. As Jesus Christ Himself once said:

Matt 24:35 - "[SIZE=+0]Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.[/SIZE]"

and

II Peter 3:12 - "[SIZE=+0]as you look forward to and hasten the coming of the day of God, by which the heavens will be set ablaze and dissolved and the elements will melt with fire[/SIZE]"

So, this earth is going to meet a very finite fiery end. There is also scientific evidence that it's going to happen.

 

[berachah]

Oh and if I was you I wouldn't compare your Gods relationship with humanity with the relationship between a parent and child. Surely it is far far far more complicated.

You cant throw that statement in and not expect a response...! The Bible is quite clear the family unit is designed and based on a heavenly pattern - its just that we humans have lost the plot. We make things complicated.

And it not by chance that the perception the vast majority of people have of God, mirrors the perception they have of their natural father.

Anyway back on topic pleash...

Something else to look forward to with the demise of Spirit led Christianity is that the love of people will deminish. The evil we now associate with barbaric tribes and civilizations will re-establish in modern society.

- sexual abuse of children and women will increase dramatically and indeed be accepted
- the law will benefit only the rich
- children will rebel against and reject parental authority outright
- pagan faiths, including human sacrifices will return.

Lawmakers will in turn:
-establish several penalties and sentences for even the most basic of crimes, with hard labour and slavery the norm
- Intrusive surveillance and monitoring of all citizens wil be mandatory with people eventually forced to have electronic chips (all in the interests of safety and crime prevention)
- Human rights will be a distant memory for all but the elite....

Copy, paste and save this for your grandchildren....they will see the beginning of these things for sure......

 

[Philothei]

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[Lutherin]

You cant throw that statement in and not expect a response...! The Bible is quite clear the family unit is designed and based on a heavenly pattern - its just that we humans have lost the plot. We make things complicated.

And it not by chance that the perception the vast majority of people have of God, mirrors the perception they have of their natural father.



Something else to look forward to with the demise of Spirit led Christianity is that the love of people will deminish. The evil we now associate with barbaric tribes and civilizations will re-establish in modern society.

- sexual abuse of children and women will increase dramatically and indeed be accepted
- the law will benefit only the rich
- children will rebel against and reject parental authority outright
- pagan faiths, including human sacrifices will return.

Lawmakers will in turn:
-establish several penalties and sentences for even the most basic of crimes, with hard labour and slavery the norm
- Intrusive surveillance and monitoring of all citizens wil be mandatory with people eventually forced to have electronic chips (all in the interests of safety and crime prevention)
- Human rights will be a distant memory for all but the elite....

Copy, paste and save this for your grandchildren....they will see the beginning of these things for sure......

At the first part or reply: Ok I have a answer but won't say it for the sake of the topic.

To the second: I think it will be the opposite to that as long as we do not run out of resources.

I think the end of said religions specially Islam and Christianity (perhaps hinduism too) will end a lot of fighting and ease the amount of resources spent on them. This will buy us more time if still haven't gone into space and found a wealth of minerals on other planets or something like that. Also the whole green peace thing should help.

As long as this process happens slowly it will be a benefit to humanity. I think humans will take the lessons learned from all the religions, combine them with a new type of humanism and live in reletive peace until aliens come or something. There probably will be little fights here and there though.

Also I think most humans are good and life is generally getting better, I mean we got passed mainstream slavery, WW2 and racism is not nearly as bad as it used to be. Even that idiot Gorge bush is gone... I think the invasion of Iraq was nessesary, if those countries became stronger at this stage of humanity when Islam is still strong. The wars that would happen would take up far more resources and lives.

I bet if this whole evil government tries to rise, we'll crush them unless they keep us all happy for the duration of their rule. I mean look what happened to the Tsars.

I don't think the majority humans will be that stupid or weak to go back to being barbarians, or being made into slaves. Even if we did go to war the main reason will just be over reasources.

At any rate, unless we are hit by a giant asteroid, the sun goes supernova or WW3 happens we will survive and just become stronger and stronger. So no I will not copy and paste it for my grand children to read

Infact I actually thought of something about this world government people, the illumanati or whomever you call them. I'll post a topic on that soon.

 

[berachah]

To the second: I think it will be the opposite to that as long as we do not run out of resources.

What do you base your opinion on? Christians base their expectation on prophecies that were written thousands of years ago and which have continued to be fulfilled since they were written..

I think the end of said religions specially Islam and Christianity (perhaps hinduism too) will end a lot of fighting and ease the amount of resources spent on them. This will buy us more time if still haven't gone into space and found a wealth of minerals on other planets or something like that. Also the whole green peace thing should help.

As long as this process happens slowly it will be a benefit to humanity. I think humans will take the lessons learned from all the religions, combine them with a new type of humanism and live in reletive peace until aliens come or something. There probably will be little fights here and there though. [/quote=Lutherin]

History shows that 'civilized' society before Christianity was filled with awful abuse, hedenistic behaviour at the expense of others, slavery, human sacrifice to 'gods', witchcraft, violence and general evil. Over the years the Christian influence has led to the breaking down of many of these ills including slavery, child labour & abuse, the emancipation of women and freedom & equality of all people. The just civil laws of the past established through the principles of the Christian faith are gradually being removed...and many a person now speak of the law favouring the rich, of being unjust, of benefitting the criminal and not the victim. Wherever the Christian foundations are undone there is an immediate negative impact on society, yet this is conveniently ignored.

Society's with a Christian heritage are overwhelimingly more prosperous and succesful than society's with other faiths. Where Christian values and doctrines have been eroded (as has happened in the school and social environment of the USA, Europe and South Africa), the immediate response has been an increase in unruly and rebellious youth; a group without purpose and invariably hooked on some sort of mind altering substance.
Is society learning from the past...? I think not.

Also I think most humans are good and life is generally getting better, I mean we got passed mainstream slavery, WW2 and racism is not nearly as bad as it used to be. Even that idiot Gorge bush is gone... I think the invasion of Iraq was nessesary, if those countries became stronger at this stage of humanity when Islam is still strong. The wars that would happen would take up far more resources and lives.

Racism gained immense momentum when the "all people are equal before God" Christian idealogy was replaced by the false doctrine of evolution. (research what the full name of Darwins famous book was for further revelation)

I bet if this whole evil government tries to rise, we'll crush them unless they keep us all happy for the duration of their rule. I mean look what happened to the Tsars.

I don't think the majority humans will be that stupid or weak to go back to being barbarians, or being made into slaves. Even if we did go to war the main reason will just be over reasources.

The whole world is slowly being seduced, mouled and prepared for the final one world govt and society will embrace it with open arms. A gun free, state dependent and closely monitored population will have little choice in their own destiny. Failure to comply will result in strict and severe 'discipline'.

At any rate, unless we are hit by a giant asteroid, the sun goes supernova or WW3 happens we will survive and just become stronger and stronger. So no I will not copy and paste it for my grand children to read

Interesting choice.....the Bible prophesies the world will be destroyed the 2nd time by fire (1st time by the flood) and I dont think a giant burst from the sun is out of scientific probability. With regard to WW's I think you might find this website interesting. WW3 - World War Three in Detail, showing Start Date, Casualties, Leaders and More

Infact I actually thought of something about this world government people, the illumanati or whomever you call them. I'll post a topic on that soon.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Hello everyone, I'm new here and posted some topics a while ago some pointless and stupid if anyone remembers.

Anyway my question is:

What do you think the next phase of human soiciety/way of life is going to be like? Like with previous religions and empires, they all change and or dissapear eventually.

What do you think will happen to religions like christianity and islam eventually? Do you think it will stay forever or eventually be replaced by something else?

What I think is that in the next 200-400 years, as the world and all its cultures merge these theistic religions especially will be whittled down to nothing but a few cults and one philosophy or religion will dominate humanity. This also depends on if we don't go and nuke each other. It will probably be a mixture of humanism and budhism i think. Also this change would obviously be accelerated or fueled by the influence of technology, TV and scientific exploration.

But thats just what I think, I have nothing against others beliefs anymore. I've had enough of all the arguments.

So what do you think?

In the Gospel of Luke 18:8, Jesus says, "...when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?"

This could be an indication...

 

[solarwave]

I think the end of said religions specially Islam and Christianity (perhaps hinduism too) will end a lot of fighting and ease the amount of resources spent on them.

Why do you think that the major religions will go away? It seems this is very unlikely but that they will develop.

 

[Lutherin]

Ok first I don't deny that christianity did play a good role when it did and still does in some situations. I'm glad it came about... However now It's just starting to hold us back and giving people another reason to fight.

Oh and with the racism thing, here the core belief of white supremesists is that whites were made above the rest by god. Also racists used evolution as a basis in some parts too I do not deny that. So both christianity and evolution played a part in bringing about racism. If you deny that then thats your problem.

What I am saying is that the world will eventually not need it anymore... and it will go away slowly. What I am also saying is that I think it will just be replaced by something else which is better.

I can go now and pull out a ton of evidence contradicting almost everything you guys believe but hey its been done before and won't have an effect. So hey you can't expect me to believe the whole second coming of jesus and the end of the world that way.

Sigh...

We will just wait and see nobody is going to do anything about it so. Thats the bottom line...

I sure hope you guys are wrong though. Also good thing I am not alon e in thinking this...

Next topic will be in the other section where I can get input from non christians too. Sorry again for posting in the wrong place.

 

[solarwave]

Ok first I don't deny that christianity did play a good role when it did and still does in some situations. I'm glad it came about... However now It's just starting to hold us back and giving people another reason to fight.

In what why is Christianity holding humanity back? Fundementalist or perhaps Conservative Christianity may do, but this isn't the whole.

What I am saying is that the world will eventually not need it anymore... and it will go away slowly. What I am also saying is that I think it will just be replaced by something else which is better.

The world may not need it to explain how the world works, but that isn't the main point of Christianity anyway.

I can go now and pull out a ton of evidence contradicting almost everything you guys believe but hey its been done before and won't have an effect. So hey you can't expect me to believe the whole second coming of jesus and the end of the world that way.

Not all of us believe the same thing

 

[Harry3142]

Lutherin-

Unless Christ returns in the length of time you indicate, I believe that our societies will return to what many now consider to be primitive. Our natural resources are depleting, and without some of them, such as oil and natural gas, our transportation systems will come to a halt.

Today we depend on parts of the world to supply us with materials, natural resources and commodities which all require a vast transportation system to arrive at their destinations successfully. This simply will not last for very much longer. The vegetables that now take 24 hours to get from one point in the USA to another point, will eventually take weeks to make the same trip, and that will be without refrigeration.

I expect societies to eventually 'break up' into localized agrarian communities by the end of this century, such as were common 500 years ago. The means of getting from one locale to another will be more difficult, and more dangerous, so the individual societies will become self-sufficient in order to better cope with their own environmental conditions.

If you want to see how societies will be living shortly, study the Amish . As they are living now, so we will be living eventually.

 

[solarwave]

Lutherin-

Unless Christ returns in the length of time you indicate, I believe that our societies will return to what many now consider to be primitive. Our natural resources are depleting, and without some of them, such as oil and natural gas, our transportation systems will come to a halt.

Today we depend on parts of the world to supply us with materials, natural resources and commodities which all require a vast transportation system to arrive at their destinations successfully. This simply will not last for very much longer. The vegetables that now take 24 hours to get from one point in the USA to another point, will eventually take weeks to make the same trip, and that will be without refrigeration.

I expect societies to eventually 'break up' into localized agrarian communities by the end of this century, such as were common 500 years ago. The means of getting from one locale to another will be more difficult, and more dangerous, so the individual societies will become self-sufficient in order to better cope with their own environmental conditions.

If you want to see how societies will be living shortly, study the Amish . As they are living now, so we will be living eventually.

In 20 years we could have fusion power which is pretty much perfect.

 

[berachah]

Ok first I don't deny that christianity did play a good role when it did and still does in some situations. I'm glad it came about... However now It's just starting to hold us back and giving people another reason to fight.

From what exactly?
Because a few people subvert the gospel for personal gain or prejudicial behaviour, does that make the doctrine itself to be at fault. Applying this same logic to capitalism, (the accumulation for wealth at the expense of others) medicine, (the prescribed use thereof is the third biggest killer in the USA) sport (the cause of injury and death) or any other indeavour would mean to say they also hold mankind back.

What I am saying is that the world will eventually not need it anymore... and it will go away slowly. What I am also saying is that I think it will just be replaced by something else which is better.

The world does not have answer to man's problems. Mankind's latest effort is the UN - their first act being the establishment of modern day Israel. And how succesful that has been...

Soon this independent governing will 'progress' to man having a spirituality that excludes God. Its the new age thinking where man finds his own path to god and is in fact god. The doctrine is "do what thy will".

Its a failed recipe that has been played out in cycles throughout the history of mankind.....doomed to failure and there are dire consequences.

I can go now and pull out a ton of evidence contradicting almost everything you guys believe but hey its been done before and won't have an effect. So hey you can't expect me to believe the whole second coming of jesus and the end of the world that way.

Sigh...

I'd love to see some of the evidence....

Most Christians have come from a place of unbelief and God has intervened in our lives to show us things beyond the shadow of this natural life.

At the end of this age we will all stand before God, accountable for the things we have done in this life, whether good or bad. That is the reality. If you feel you have lived a life without wrongdoing thats great......the rest of us know we falll way short and we trust that the sacrifice of Christ will present us blameless before God.

By then it is too late to find a solution....our destiny is determined by our choices on this side of the curtain of life.

 

[Harry3142]

solarwave-

We might have fusion power, but at what cost? Would it be affordable as a means of powering transports, such as trucks, trains and ships? I doubt it.

 

[solarwave]

solarwave-

We might have fusion power, but at what cost? Would it be affordable as a means of powering transports, such as trucks, trains and ships? I doubt it.

Yes, if it all works well then it would make more energy then it used up which would be used to make electricity. There are few if any downsides if it all goes smoothly.

 

[berachah]

Once industrialists have made enough money out of fossil fuels they will divert their attention to natural sources of energy (wind, solar, water, osmosis, tidal, ethanol etc) and with limited advances in current technology there will be an abundance of energy available.......

 

[lucaspa]

What I think is that in the next 200-400 years, as the world and all its cultures merge these theistic religions especially will be whittled down to nothing but a few cults and one philosophy or religion will dominate humanity. ... It will probably be a mixture of humanism and budhism i think. Also this change would obviously be accelerated or fueled by the influence of technology, TV and scientific exploration.

Well, that's what atheists hope, anyway. It could come to pass unless Christianity gets its act together and makes it clear that it rejects god-of-the-gaps theology. GOTG is the only way that "science" can whittle down religion.

OTOH, I see no reason why the number of people who have personal experience of deity should decrease. And it is this, more than anything, which forms the basis of theism. So even if humanism makes strides, there is going to be a significant minority of believers around, all of whom have personal experience of deity that nothing else can diminish.

 

[lucaspa]

However now It's just starting to hold us back and giving people another reason to fight.

It's not Christianity that is holding us back, but Fundamentalism. That's a new religion that worships a literal, inerrant Bible.

So both christianity and evolution played a part in bringing about racism.

Actually, neither had a part in "bringing about" racism. Racism existed before either Christianity or evolution. Instead, racism corrupted both Christianity and evolution to serve racism.

What I am saying is that the world will eventually not need it anymore... and it will go away slowly.

But that assumes that Christianity is not based in reality. That people do not really have a relationship with the risen Christ. But what if people do? Then Christianity sticks around because individuals have overwhelming personal evidence that it is true.