Hello I have a Question.

[Lutherin]

Hello everyone, I'm new here and posted some topics a while ago some pointless and stupid if anyone remembers.

Anyway my question is:

What do you think the next phase of human soiciety/way of life is going to be like? Like with previous religions and empires, they all change and or dissapear eventually.

What do you think will happen to religions like christianity and islam eventually? Do you think it will stay forever or eventually be replaced by something else?

What I think is that in the next 200-400 years, as the world and all its cultures merge these theistic religions especially will be whittled down to nothing but a few cults and one philosophy or religion will dominate humanity. This also depends on if we don't go and nuke each other. It will probably be a mixture of humanism and budhism i think. Also this change would obviously be accelerated or fueled by the influence of technology, TV and scientific exploration.

But thats just what I think, I have nothing against others beliefs anymore. I've had enough of all the arguments.

So what do you think?

 

[drich0150]

Hello everyone, I'm new here and posted some topics a while ago some pointless and stupid if anyone remembers.

Anyway my question is:

What do you think the next phase of human society/way of life is going to be like? Like with previous religions and empires, they all change and or disappear eventually.

What do you think will happen to religions like christianity and islam eventually? Do you think it will stay forever or eventually be replaced by something else?

What I think is that in the next 200-400 years, as the world and all its cultures merge these theistic religions especially will be whittled down to nothing but a few cults and one philosophy or religion will dominate humanity. This also depends on if we don't go and nuke each other. It will probably be a mixture of humanism and budhism i think. Also this change would obviously be accelerated or fueled by the influence of technology, TV and scientific exploration.

But thats just what I think, I have nothing against others beliefs anymore. I've had enough of all the arguments.

So what do you think?

we are told as some point in the future of man that our cup of iniquity will overflow thus triggering the wrath of God./The end of days. Maybe your melting pot of religion could be that event or maybe it will happen much much sooner like the Maya believe. What ever the course of man, the important thing is, to ask yourself, are you faithful to the opportunities and gifts you have been given. Because no matter the course of man, you will be judged as an individual.

 

[Lutherin]

we are told as some point in the future of man that our cup of iniquity will overflow thus triggering the wrath of God./The end of days. Maybe your melting pot of religion could be that event or maybe it will happen much much sooner like the Maya believe. What ever the course of man, the important thing is, to ask yourself, are you faithful to the opportunities and gifts you have been given. Because no matter the course of man, you will be judged as an individual.

Ok so you believe/think that the world will end for us sooner or later, kinda like an extinction but caused by your God right? However you are not completely sure? Thats an answer, cool man.

Oh and yeah I guess I am, I do say thanks to the universe for all my luck(including my gifts) and I am using it.

 

[drich0150]

Ok so you believe/think that the world will end for us sooner or later, kinda like an extinction but caused by your God right? However you are not completely sure? Thats an answer, cool man.

Oh and yeah I guess I am, I do say thanks to the universe for all my luck(including my gifts) and I am using it.

I am unsure as to the date, because we are told no one will know when that day will be. Only the Father knows when that will be. I maybe unsure as to the when, but not the fact that it will happen, individually if not collectively.

 

[Blue Man]

Hello everyone, I'm new here and posted some topics a while ago some pointless and stupid if anyone remembers.

Anyway my question is:

What do you think the next phase of human soiciety/way of life is going to be like? Like with previous religions and empires, they all change and or dissapear eventually.

What do you think will happen to religions like christianity and islam eventually? Do you think it will stay forever or eventually be replaced by something else?

What I think is that in the next 200-400 years, as the world and all its cultures merge these theistic religions especially will be whittled down to nothing but a few cults and one philosophy or religion will dominate humanity. This also depends on if we don't go and nuke each other. It will probably be a mixture of humanism and budhism i think. Also this change would obviously be accelerated or fueled by the influence of technology, TV and scientific exploration.

But thats just what I think, I have nothing against others beliefs anymore. I've had enough of all the arguments.

So what do you think?

I think it's impossible to predict, but assuming America isn't destroyed and we decline slightly in economic power to become the 2nd super power of the world (behind China), I think you could be right. However, I also think that during times of extreme chaos, religion gets a boost of followers. Assuming we lose a major war, we'd see a large uprising of religion. Also assuming this isn't a nuclear war.

 

[solarwave]

In my opinion (which isn't well researched) I think the cultures of the world will mix together, but different areas will keep something of their old culture. Maybe there will be a World Government.

I think the major religions will probably remain but will have progressed in theology by learning from other religions. I believe all the religions will become more loving and understanding of each other. I doubt there will even be one world religion or philosophy, but it is possible.

 

[razeontherock]

one philosophy or religion will dominate humanity.

If you see this happen, know that the wrath of G-d is about to be poured out, without being diluted!

 

[Lutherin]

Some good answers thanks keep em coming...

It's impossible to know for sure obviously, but it should be the next natural direction humanity will follow. Since its the information age, its become too easy for people to question their or any other religion. This specially goes for young people who are the future.

@ Solarwave you are right in saying that it will be different from one part of the worl to the other... But just how different will be hard to ditermine.

 

[razeontherock]

FWIW, right in our outreach section people's eyes are being opened to the similarities across widely different Faiths. I hold this to be a good thing ...

 

[berachah]

Lutherin,

You are a lot closer to the truth than you may realise. Spirit filled Christianity will eventually dwindle down and become a marginalized and persecuted group. Even mainstream churches will turn against these believers and even hasten their persecution and rejection from society, causing such believers to blend into world society without much evidence of their faith at all (besides personal relationships)

No doubt a gene will be "discovered" that reveals such believers are mentally defective and are in fact hindering humanity's progress or revelations will be made known that such people are carrying out acts of peversity or other evil or they will be considered fanatics and anti social groups. One way or the other Christians will be hated..

The remaining face of Christianity will be much like that of the Catholic / Anglican etc churches now - all man's good works and little of God. Eventually these compromised vestiges of Christianity will merge into a future one world interfaith body and any remaining spiritual value (for the kingdom of God) they had will be stripped away. They will become social and welfare bodies no different from any other faiths, probably even worse..

But thanks be to God, because Christ will revive the Body and re-establish His Body. This is prophesied and nothing can change this outcome.

In between we will still see a number of revivals, a worldwide catastrophe (probably a major war) that ushers in the final days. Nature will go out of sync in the most dramatic ways. (this, not from global warming or the like but because evil men gain authority while Christianity is reduced)

The united nations will rise up and gain ascendancy eventually establishing rule over the entire world and ushering in the anti-christ. The middle class will disappear and slavery will be re-introduced. So begins a miserable time for most of humanity except for the rich elite.

Just some of the downsides for a world without Christ.....

 

[Lutherin]

Beracha: What you said sounds like a plot to a hollywood movie. To be honest with you, I highly doubt that will ever happen. Perhaps it could have happend in the past like with hitler and the Nazis.

To be even more honest It sounds so far fetched and sad that I cannot and do not want to take it seriously.

But, the bottom line is that we all will just have to wait and see, because nobody is going to do anything about it.Not even this God of your's is going to do anything since its part of his/her plan right?

Anyway on a lighter note I am from SA too!!

 

[berachah]

Beracha: What you said sounds like a plot to a hollywood movie. To be honest with you, I highly doubt that will ever happen. Perhaps it could have happend in the past like with hitler and the Nazis.

It will happen as I said...of that I am absolutely certain...I could reveal these out of the Old Testament, but as you say it seems so far fetched it would not be believed....but you asked the question. God revealed these things to me during a 40 day fast...Saw many other things beyond this realm.

To be even more honest It sounds so far fetched and sad that I cannot and do not want to take it seriously.

Like the Bible says, "woe to them in that day....there will be times such as never before" including the WWII.

But, the bottom line is that we all will just have to wait and see, because nobody is going to do anything about it.Not even this God of your's is going to do anything since its part of his/her plan right?

Anyway on a lighter note I am from SA too!!

Actually that is the part from the devil's plan...man gave the devil authority over this world and humanity by rejecting God....("we become slave to whomsoever we choose to obey") ..only He is such a good God He decides to intervene in spite of our stupidity and rejection of Him.....Now that's love...

I have left SA for Ozz....

 

[heron]

as the world and all its cultures merge these theistic religions especially will be whittled down to nothing but a few cults and one philosophy or religion will dominate humanity. This also depends on if we don't go and nuke each other. It will probably be a mixture of humanism and budhism i think. Also this change would obviously be accelerated or fueled by the influence of technology, TV and scientific exploration.

Right now there are some efforts to prevent people from harming each other for different beliefs. This could lead toward some structured solutions that are more generic, but will not change what is in people's hearts.

You have noticed that kingdoms/empires change, and I think we are all a little naive to this right now... historically, this happens much more often than we would like to admit.

As for religion changing, I don't see as much changing with Christianity. Change, of course yes. But the premise has always been that when doubt arises on a topic, the answer is drawn from the original texts. So while the pendulum swings one direction or another, it is always attempting to land in the middle.

This is probably true of some other religions too: change, but pulling back when it goes too far.

Your predictions show a good observation of the culture, though. I see some groups of people approaching life very aimlessly. When a person loses sight of a goal or a core belief, then they are more easily pulled by external forces.

A person can resist dominance and rules, but then what they find in their realm of freedom becomes their dominator.

 

[Lutherin]

Its easy to change whats in a childs heart. Also what I have noticed is that Atheists, Agnostics and non-believers general are more common in developed countries with higher levels of education and comfortable lifestyle.

It's very evident here in SA, people who grew up or have grown up in previously disadvantaged surroundings are far more religious. The Athieists and such only start showing up in the middle class and up.

Oh and @ Barachah. So God started this whole thing knowing it was going end like this? How pointless.

Anyway what I have realised so far about this God or the Universe in my case is that whatever it is its pure evil, pure good, in-personal(at least on a human level) and everything else inbetween all at the same time and pointless trying to follow or worship.

So I guess the bottom line really is that we will just have to wait and see. First theres 2012 to get past.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Its easy to change whats in a childs heart. Also what I have noticed is that Atheists, Agnostics and non-believers general are more common in developed countries with higher levels of education and comfortable lifestyle.

It's very evident here in SA, people who grew up or have grown up in previously disadvantaged surroundings are far more religious. The Athieists and such only start showing up in the middle class and up.

Oh and @ Barachah. So God started this whole thing knowing it was going end like this? How pointless.

Anyway what I have realised so far about this God or the Universe in my case is that whatever it is its pure evil, pure good, in-personal(at least on a human level) and everything else inbetween all at the same time and pointless trying to follow or worship.

So I guess the bottom line really is that we will just have to wait and see. First theres 2012 to get past.

If you understood what's going on 'here below' you would see the sense to it all. It is amazing how 'Christians' still think this whole thing is all about them. It isn't. God's purpose is the restoration of His spirit kingdom, seriously damaged in the rebellion, and His name and authority which was defamed as well. The salvation of mankind is only part of it. God has given hints about when the 'end' will come and the kingdom restored. I believe we are close (we are always 'close'). One of the signs is the flight of the church to a 'place of safety', and the 'famine of the word', which of course would occur when true Christians are no longer an active part in the nominal church. When you see the so-called Christian church fall apart spiritually and morally you'll know the end is close ('the end will not come except there be a falling away first'-Jesus words).

 

[solarwave]

Its easy to change whats in a childs heart. Also what I have noticed is that Atheists, Agnostics and non-believers general are more common in developed countries with higher levels of education and comfortable lifestyle.

Does this prove that atheism is true or could it mean something else?

A very interesting book I read which is to do with psychology and world views suggests that atheism/skepticism can be part of the journey towards a truer understanding of God, as strange as that might sound.

 

[berachah]

Oh and @ Barachah. So God started this whole thing knowing it was going end like this? How pointless.

God started the whole thing giving man paradise, a freewill and every warning possible. He doesnt want robots who have programmed to do as told. he wants a relationship where man willingly accepts the guidance, grace of love of his Creator.

If you have kids you will understand this principle.
If you tell a child not to touch a hot plate on the stove he can choose to listen or ignore you. If he ignores you and gets burnt he will run to you and as a loving parent you will anoint the wound and comfort the child. You see....the parent did not plan the pain, but was there when the comfort and care was needed. God makes a way for us in spite of our disobedience.

Now if the child hardens its heart and blames the parent for his circumstances and suffering, says if you were a real and loving parent you would never have let this happen to me, or says why didnt you stop this evil; then you will have the equivalent of an ungrateful & arrogant athiest.

 

[Lutherin]

Oh and @ Barachah. So God started this whole thing knowing it was going end like this? How pointless.

God started the whole thing giving man paradise, a freewill and every warning possible. He doesnt want robots who have programmed to do as told. he wants a relationship where man willingly accepts the guidance, grace of love of his Creator.

If you have kids you will understand this principle.
If you tell a child not to touch a hot plate on the stove he can choose to listen or ignore you. If he ignores you and gets burnt he will run to you and as a loving parent you will anoint the wound and comfort the child. You see....the parent did not plan the pain, but was there when the comfort and care was needed. God makes a way for us in spite of our disobedience.

Now if the child hardens its heart and blames the parent for his circumstances and suffering, says if you were a real and loving parent you would never have let this happen to me, or says why didnt you stop this evil; then you will have the equivalent of an ungrateful & arrogant athiest.

Ok I'm sorry I started it but this is throwing the thread off on a tanget. So lets stop this one about free will it will just go in circles. You most likely will not convince me and I probably won't convince you.

Oh and if I was you I wouldn't compare your Gods relationship with humanity with the relationship between a parent and child. Surely it is far far far more complicated.

Anyway back on topic pleash...

 

[OldWiseGuy]

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[OldWiseGuy]

I wouldn't compare your Gods relationship with humanity with the relationship between a parent and child. Surely it is far far

You are correct. The WHOLE theme of the bible is the that of the relationship between God and His 'loved one'. When the church finally gets it they will be shocked, amazed, and shamefaced.