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Hell Isn't Necessary

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Being saved is that you are with God and his begotten Son Jesus. Not being saved means you are not with them. Hell doesn't neccessary mean it is a place it can mean the condition of death. You no longer exist. If you are saved you are saved from death and instead given eternal life.



Psalms 9:17 - The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Isaiah 14:15 - Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Matthew 16:18 - And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Luke 16:23 - And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

2 Peter 2:4 - For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Revelation 1:18 - I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
 
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webboffin said:
Being saved is that you are with God and his begotten Son Jesus. Not being saved means you are not with them. Hell doesn't neccessary mean it is a place it can mean the condition of death. You no longer exist. If you are saved you are saved from death and instead given eternal life.
Revelation 14

11 "And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."
 
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When we receive our resurected bodies, we will never die again, it will be un uncoruptable body, it will not decay. We that are saved will receive this body before the millenium kingdon starts, those who are not saved will receive it at the second resurection and they will be thrown in the Lake of Fire after that, they will also receive a body that will not decay, an imortal body, and they'll spend eternity there with that body. I believe that will be different levels of punishment there, the wicked will probably suffer more than the not-so-wicked, but it'll be a place of suffering for all.
 
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sethsmommy said:
God is a loveing God but that is why he sent Jesus to die for us so that we don't have to go there but that is mans choice if they belive and accept that he died for them then you are saved from hell but hell is for a reason why would God want someone in heaven if they don't belive on his word and belive in him...Thank about it..it makes since...
You are right
Judith 16:17 - in the day of judgment the Lord will take vengeance on the wicked and they shall weep in pain forever. Hell is a place that sinners have prepared for themselves by rejecting God, who desires all people to be saved in His Son Jesus Christ. God sends no one to hell.
Because of our power of God given Free Will to choose for ourselves. He sends none of us to Hell it is a place that we freely choose to go by rejecting Him.
The Lord's desire is for all of His children to make it to Heaven but the reality remains that not all will. Since the fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, and they were perfect, but still He created them with Free Will, it is evident that some will choose the negative and flase path that leads away from His Love and Grace....But it is their own choosing that does so not that of the Father.
 
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debiwebi said:
You are right
Judith 16:17 - in the day of judgment the Lord will take vengeance on the wicked and they shall weep in pain forever. Hell is a place that sinners have prepared for themselves by rejecting God, who desires all people to be saved in His Son Jesus Christ. God sends no one to hell.
Because of our power of God given Free Will to choose for ourselves. He sends none of us to Hell it is a place that we freely choose to go by rejecting Him.
The Lord's desire is for all of His children to make it to Heaven but the reality remains that not all will. Since the fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, and they were perfect, but still He created them with Free Will, it is evident that some will choose the negative and flase path that leads away from His Love and Grace....But it is their own choosing that does so not that of the Father.

Thanks for backing me up so many people don't belive in hell and for one belive if you don't belive in hell you don't belive God's word its there in his word he speaks of Hell more then once...
 
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sethsmommy said:
Thanks for backing me up so many people don't belive in hell and for one belive if you don't belive in hell you don't belive God's word its there in his word he speaks of Hell more then once...
I think what happens is that people negate scripture because they can find scripture that says something that when taken out of context may appear differently....
But whenever you are talking about doctrines in the Bible even as a sola scripturist which BTW I used to be (I wasn't always Catholic so I can see both sides of the fence), You must take all of the scripture on the subject and put it together and then also determine certain things too. For instance, in what context is the scripture being said and to whom at the time, these all are to be taken into account when trying to determine what all the scripture on a subject has to say...not just some.
This only fosters the idea to many that the Bible is not a cohesive book and that it contradicts itself when in fact it does not......
And thank you as well it is so nice to see that my brothers and sisters from both sides of the fence shall we say can see what the Lord has written in the Bible I just wish that some of us didn't have a hard time accepting it. I think that is the only way that they themselves can accept Christianity to tell you the truth.
As it says in 1 Peter 3:16? I think that is it (tell me if I am wrong) that all scripture is inspired of God. So we do not negate what is Inspired of the Lord.....
 
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