Hell is not found in the Bible.

[Diamond7]

As far as I know Dante never called his work Scripture.

That is why we need to be careful.

 

[timothyu]

That is why we need to be careful.

Exactly but immediately we are told that tradition trumps truth. That is why the elites, be they secular or religious, have always prioritized controlling the narrative, their narrative.

 

[Lukaris]

Matthew 10:28

 

[Erose]

That is why we need to be careful.

Careful about Dante’s writings? In all honesty, people should meditate on the four last things, including Gehenna/Hell. It will do them well, and there really isn’t anything wrong with it. One thing Dante illustrates in the Inferno is it is not a place you want to end up at. So focus on what you need to stay away from it.

 

[timothyu]

When did a poet's writings become doctrine?

 

[Diamond7]

When did a poet's writings become doctrine?

In the dark ages.

 

[Erose]

In the dark ages.

Which part of Dante that wasn't doctrine before Dante became doctrine afterwards?

Here is the definition of hell, as per the Catholic Catechism: This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called "hell."

 

[timothyu]

Which part of Dante that wasn't doctrine before Dante became doctrine afterwards?

So you are saying Dante was influenced by that which took advantage of his work? Amazing how a controlled narrative can become self nourishing.

 

[Erose]

So you are saying Dante was influenced by that which took advantage of his work? Amazing how a controlled narrative can become self nourishing.

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[timothyu]

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Not really. Just one of many examples where culture overrides scripture.

 

[Diamond7]

Which part of Dante that wasn't doctrine before Dante became doctrine afterwards?

Dante's portrayal of the afterlife in the Divine Comedy, particularly his depiction of hell and heaven, has had a profound and lasting impact on Western art, literature, and culture. His vivid and imaginative descriptions of the punishments and rewards awaiting souls in the afterlife have inspired countless works of art, including paintings, sculptures, and illustrations, as well as literary works by other authors.

Dante's vision of hell, in particular, has been influential in shaping popular perceptions of the underworld. His portrayal of the nine circles of hell, each reserved for different sins and populated by various tormented souls, has become a staple of Western cultural imagination. Similarly, his vision of heaven as a place of perfect happiness and fulfillment has inspired countless artists and writers to imagine their own versions of paradise.

Dante's influence on Christian theology and spirituality cannot be overstated, and his vision of the afterlife continues to captivate and inspire people today.

 

[BobRyan]

Dante's depiction of Hell in his literary work, "The Divine Comedy," is not found in the Bible.

Ok so Dante is not a Bible writer. I think that is very true -- the things he made up originate to some extent - with him.

While the Bible does contain descriptions of punishment for the wicked, such as the "lake of fire" in Revelation, Dante's portrayal of Hell includes many elements and levels that are not described in the Bible.

Agreed. He was a very creative writer.

Dante's vision of Hell is based on his own personal beliefs and experiences, as well as the teachings of his time, which included both Christian and classical sources.

I think they call that "syncretism"

His depiction of Hell is primarily a work of fiction, intended to convey moral and theological ideas through vivid imagery and allegory.

amen.

Therefore, the concepts and imagery of Dante's Hell are not explicitly found in the Bible, and his work should not be interpreted as a literal representation of the Bible's teachings on Hell.

Very true!

 

[timothyu]

Dante's influence on Christian theology and spirituality cannot be overstated

Didn't they used to call that false witness or perversions or corrupters or counterfeiters or something of the like? Artistic licence is now theology and tradition?

 

[BobRyan]

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It is kind of like how sciences creation has been brought into the Bible to usurp, God's true creation description found in The Bible.

Indeed - evolution has a doctrine on origins much more suitable for someone withe a non-God world-view

 

[BobRyan]

Matthew 10:28

I love that text.

 

[d taylor]

Indeed - evolution has a doctrine on origins much more suitable for someone withe a non-God world-view

This involves more than just evolution. This is about all of God's creation described in The Bible, science lies about all of it.

 

[BobRyan]

This involves more than just evolution. This is about all of God's creation described in The Bible, science lies about all of it.

Well I would not go that far. There is a lot of observable science when it comes to biology, physics, astronomy, aerodynamics, computer science, engineering, medicine etc that is proven to be reliable.

Fake stores about how a bunch of prokaryotes will come up with a rabbit or a horse given "a sufficient amount of time and chance" is just very poor story telling and is really bad couterfet doctrine on origins as compared to the Bible.

 

[d taylor]

Well I would not go that far. There is a lot of observable science when it comes to biology, physics, astronomy, aerodynamics, computer science, engineering, medicine etc that is proven to be reliable.

Fake stores about how a bunch of prokaryotes will come up with a rabbit or a horse given "a sufficient amount of time and chance" is just very poor story telling and is really bad couterfet doctrine on origins as compared to the Bible.

I would, as taking God's given creation in The Bible demands that. But sadly many who are Biblical creationist have been taken in by the lies of science.

Just like the voters of New York's 3rd congressional district, were taken in by the lies of George Santos and voted this liar into office. Creationist have inserted sciences lies into the Bible, not actual literal words, but by their faulty interpretations. To have The Bible agree with science (and its lies) in many areas.

 

[Chaleb]

Therefore, the concepts and imagery of Dante's Hell are not explicitly found in the Bible, and his work should not be interpreted as a literal representation of the Bible's teachings on Hell.

Jesus taught more about Hell then He did about heaven.

Where is "Hell" found?

Its found at the end of a Christ rejecting life.

Thousands went there today, yesterday, and tomorrow, and most of them wondered if hell is real.

Now they know 3 things for certain.

1.) Jesus is Real

2. ) Hell is real

3.) They are in it.

 

[Diamond7]

Where is "Hell" found?

I have seen the bottomless pit in a dream. I was falling and falling with no bottom. Later I found out that this was a volcano that was not active. But it becomes active in the book of Revelation.