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Thread to expand on original text of Genesis. This is not a debate thread; it is simply for those wanting to understand more about the depth behind the original language in Genesis. It is led by Vicomte, who has studied this subject for many years. Feel free to ask questions, but please refrain from debate, as this is a thread for education purposes.
 

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count me in I'm very interested in the roots of the Hebrew tongue.
 
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Below the quotes continue. More to follow along with some cited resources.



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Continuing:


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And continuing....


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That should do it and if there are other resources @Vicomte13 will no doubt provide.

Another resource I find useful is https://bible.org/

At that site (you can sign up for free) is Lumina study tool. You can access Lumina from the main menu.
 
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I found this very interesting and would be interested in more. But posts 3-5 were repeats.
Yeah. I was trying to copy and paste from my phone. And it wasn't working. Sorry!
 
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Excellent! Thank you! I will need to read through what I've already written (a prospect that bores me exceedingly) so that I can proceed without repeating myself yet again. Now that anybody can look at what I am writing, I will try to be more disciplined than in chats on a private thread (though I think I probably needn't bother - this does not seem likely to be a thread that is going to draw in a big following).

One more useful tool to add to the mix. The Mechanical Translation is good for Genesis and Exodus (there used to be the whole Torah available, in draft form), but it doesn't extend past that. The only thing like a mechanical translation that covers the whole Protestant bible is the 1909 Concordant Translation.

The Concordant Translation at least lets one see when the same word is being used in the underlying Greek or Hebrew.

The problem still remains that the Old and New Testaments are written in different languages, so having something that was concordant across BOTH testaments, and having it be reliable, would require a fully concordant, mechanical translation of either the LXX + Patriarchal Text (for Old and New Testaments in Koine Greek), or of the Peshitta, or of the Vulgate.

Ideally, Codex Vaticanus (plus the missing pieces, obtained from Sinaiticus and Alexandrinus) and Patriarchal Text would be mechanically translated, and the Vulgate, oldest version, and the Peshitta, and the Leningrad Codex, and the Amharic Ethiopian Canon, and the Great Isaiah Scroll from Qumran (the only nearly complete Dead Sea Scroll) would be mechanically translated and compared, with all of those places where there is a difference in meaning demonstrated flagged.

All of this is aimed at ensuring we're really reading the actual Scriptural TEXT.

This is all aimed at quelling the endless bickering over texts, which at its final point of analysis is really bickering over meaning.

But such great tools for resolution have not yet been created. And the will to do it doesn't exist yet, let alone the resources. So for now, we have to use what we have.
 
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