Do you think the past is infinite though? I've read somewhere that it is logically impossible.
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I'm unacquainted with the 924 Jeremiah site. Yes, I think God is timeless, outside of time. I believe the Bible states this. I have often wondered (this might be flaky, so bear with me) if in Heaven in our glorified bodies, we might be able to go through time- time travel, see the dinosaurs, maybe even see the beginning of the world. I don't know what the rewards in Heaven are, but maybe people who were faithful Christians will get to go back in time and see the world being spoken into existence (I am not insinuating I would be one of the ones given such a reward- I'm just speculating what might be).
Why would it be logically impossible?Do you think the past is infinite though? I've read somewhere that it is logically impossible.
Why would it be logically impossible?
Heaven is mind boggling. I heard someone say that they can understand why there's a Hell- but what is truly mind boggling is why there's a Heaven!
I don't understand what you mean by a wall being past Heaven.
What is the law of infinite regress?I've heard its impossible due to the law of infinite regress.
I would think Heaven is infinite and in a different dimension altogether. I wouldn't think there is anything beyond Heaven. But, I don't know that Heaven is one place but made up of many places, multiple universes, with all sorts of created intelligences that we don't even know about.Like if Heaven's not infinite, what is beyond heaven's frontier?
What is the law of infinite regress?
I would think if there was no time, both future and past would be infinite. A dimension outside this world, where there is no time.
Time is a Prerequisite of Creation: Many have been told that time was created by God, and that it is not an aspect of His existence. Please consider though that time cannot be created. Why not? Because creation means going from non-existence to existence, which itself is a sequence, a before and after. And any before and after sequence requires time. Time therefore is a precondition of creating. Thus time itself cannot be created. So just as Scripture describes God's creation of matter and space, light and life, but not of time, even the secular BBC begins their Before the Big Bang program acknowledging that the notion of time coming into existence "may be a logical contradiction." The scientific fad, with its ubiquitous acceptance, of claiming that time came into existence with the big bang, could effortlessly disappear if not needed by the next fad, the multiverse. For although the statement that "time came into existence" launched a million words in its defense, men have no way of even thinking about the notion, for in a deep sense it is meaningless. (Similarly, men have no way of even thinking about the evolutionary notion of how a merely physical system could give rise to a biological information systems. So in both the alleged materialist evolution of information, and in the claim that time came into existence, meaninglessness reveals itself through this inability even to think about such things.)
I have to be completely honest. I didn't understand a lot of what he wrote. I don't see the distinction between God being outside time and being everlasting. If He is not outside time, then where did time originate?What do you think of what this guy wrote? http://kgov.com/is-God-outside-of-time
I would think Heaven is infinite and in a different dimension altogether. I wouldn't think there is anything beyond Heaven. But, I don't know that Heaven is one place but made up of many places, multiple universes, with all sorts of created intelligences that we don't even know about.
Not just angels, all kinds of beings. This might be flaky, but this is my reasoning: if man who is like God, a creator with a little 'c' and has come up with imaginary creatures like fairies, mermaids, leprechauns, centaurs, etc- then God, who is the Creator with the big 'C' and whose imagination is exponentially greater than ours, wouldn't it follow that there are many things created that we know nothing about? A poster on this thread mentioned something about creatures we can't even conceive. Also, I don't know that God doesn't have other projects and worlds underway. I think maybe we'll be able to visit them, or some of us will.What do you mean by that? Are you referring to angels, or God having other projects outside of earth and heaven?
Not just angels, all kinds of beings. This might be flaky, but this is my reasoning: if man who is like God, a creator with a little 'c' and has come up with imaginary creatures like fairies, mermaids, leprechauns, centaurs, etc- then God, who is the Creator with the big 'C' and whose imagination is exponentially greater than ours, wouldn't it follow that there are many things created that we know nothing about? A poster on this thread mentioned something about creatures we can't even conceive. Also, I don't know that God doesn't have other projects and worlds underway. I think maybe we'll be able to visit them, or some of us will.
I'm not trying to be pious when I say the following: I think we have it all wrong about the rewards in Heaven. It may be more like some people who were better Christians will get to have more experiences than those of us who are not as close to God as we should be. I honestly don't think rewards will be gold and jewels. After all, gold is the pavement of Heaven and jewels are the bricks, so those things are common.
Not just angels, cherubim, and seraphim. I am thinking about creatures we know nothing about. Angel just means "messenger" anyway.Are you referring to other types of heavenly beings? The term angel refers to heavenly beings, not just the conventional depiction of what people think an angel is.
Not just angels, cherubim, and seraphim. I am thinking about creatures we know nothing about. Angel just means "messenger" anyway.
Why would God want to entice us with earthly values unless it was to only demonstrate that what we see as important in this world will lose it's value in heaven.There's nothing in all Scripture, in YHWH, in Y'SHUA, in eternity, in the history of the universe, in anything,
to suggest the streets of pure transparent gold are a metaphor.
Everything points to them being completely and totally and fully REAL !
Why would God want to entice us with earthly values unless it was to only demonstrate that what we see as important in this world will lose it's value in heaven.
I would think Heaven is infinite and in a different dimension altogether. I wouldn't think there is anything beyond Heaven. But, I don't know that Heaven is one place but made up of many places, multiple universes, with all sorts of created intelligences that we don't even know about.
Nothing is impossible with God.Is infinity physically possible?
Also, what do you think of this article? Will There Be Snow In Heaven?
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