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Having A 'Happy Sabbath'

Discussion in 'Traditional Adventists' started by Gary O', Nov 29, 2021.

  1. Gary O'

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    Do you?

    I don't.

    Not all day.
    I find myself glancing at the clock in the late afternoon.
    Music helps.
    Walks are nice.
    Study is good...for awhile.
    A nap seems a copout, but, boy, does it ever feel good.

    Of course I've prayed about this.

    Am I a lost cause?

    What's the trick?


     
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    Just realized I was in the Adventist threads. My comments removed.

    God bless,
    Ted
     
  3. Freth

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    There are so many things you can do on the Sabbath.
    • Post on forums like this one.
    • Go to church and worship God. Stay for potluck!
    • Fellowship with other Christians after church.
    • Do good works (spreading the gospel, helping the poor, etc).
    • Study scripture (goes hand in hand with bullet point 1).
    • Get out and leisurely enjoy nature. I make it a point to admire God's handiwork during the Sabbath.
    • Read scripturally sound Christian books.
    • Spend quiet time in prayer and contemplation.
    • Watch/listen to sermons.
    I don't think God meant for us to sit around staring at the clock, waiting for the exact second sunset hits. Often you don't notice the end of Sabbath, because you're engaged in wholesome and appropriate activity on God's holy day.
     
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  4. Gary O'

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    Good on you.
    I'm not 'there'

    Pray for me.

    I need it
     
  5. SabbathBlessings

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    God has given us everything and dedicating one day to Him is not asking much. I understand where you are coming from, I felt that way growing up, but now look forward to the Sabbath. My favorite thing to do on the Sabbath is bible study. I like to take an area of scripture I want to learn more about and focus on that. Most of the time it's through prayerful reading scripture coupled sometimes with sermons on the same topic. I think of it as a treasure hunt and the more you study, the more the scriptures open up. I also like everything on @Freth list as well.
     
  6. Freth

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    This. If you follow along with sermons, you can learn a lot. It's interesting to learn new nuggets or new angles you never thought of before. It expands your knowledge and understanding of scripture.

    Growing up, my mother would watch the clock and skirt the Sabbath sometimes, or find excuses for breaking it. It wasn't a regular thing, but it was still a problem. We used to call her out on it. lol Having been born and raised into Sabbath observance, I've known for a long time how to observe, but I have struggled both in my childhood and adult life with how to effectively observe it and not be a clock watcher.

    What I learned in my own life is that if I have worldly attachment, it tugs me away from Sabbath observance and I will find ways to cheat, even if I don't want to. i.e. My heart was not in it, I was focused on something else. Gaming. YouTube. Getting together with friends. All of them were causing me to want to do what I wanted to do, and it was a problem. Your heart has to be invested in it, or your heart isn't in it. This was my issue. Once I made changes in my life, and reoriented myself, I found success. I'm not saying this is your issue, just sharing my own experience.
     
  7. Gary O'

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    I do know that.
    I've read the scriptures.
    And I've kept the Sabbath.
    Just saying, it hasn't been entirely joyful.

    I'm pretty sure He doesn't want me to drudge thru His day, 'keeping' it.
    Seems obvious you people have it down.
    Comes off as rather pious.
    Pretty much sickens me.

    Your 'help' ain't helping.
     
  8. Gary O'

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    I really appreciate those words.

    It's a struggle for me.
    Maybe it'll always be a struggle.

    I'll be devoting more of that day to study.

    We usually watch about three sermons, like Doug Batchelor, some others on that day.
     
  9. SabbathBlessings

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    What I wrote wasn't necessarily directed at you and obviously you know that by your posts of joyfully wanting to keep the Sabbath. I apologize if it was misunderstood. Keep praying, God is good.

    God bless
     
  10. Gary O'

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    Oh, it's my issue, to a large degree.

    We used to live in the mountains in an off grid cabin we built.
    Spent five of the last six years there.

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    Keeping a Sabbath was a pure joy.....and a welcomed rest.
    God's handiwork was everywhere.


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    Bringing in and closing the Sabbath was a looked for event
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    Even put words to some pics;
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    I may very well need to move back there.
     
  11. BobRyan

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    The Sabbath is a day of rest and worship - but it is also a great day for sharing with others. On CF there is a "Christian Advice forum" and a "Prayer wall" forum that has a lot of opportunity for sharing. Also - if you make "sharing" one of your prayer projects - (see Colossians 4:1-6) that is a great boost.

    I love to watch this "live" channel (it is actually about 1.5 hours long in each vid and is recorded since it is in Australia so we see it much later in the day)



    "The Jordan River is a major water source that flows through the Jordan Rift Valley into the Dead Sea."

    With no outlet - that which was fresh and life-giving becomes dead at the end.

    Here is an example in the "Request for Christian Advice" section of CF

    Got a load of Biblical questions, need a few answers?

    And here is a "forum for new christians" on CF that has some examples where help might be very welcomed.

    For New Christians

    You can't jump into "every thread" as some of them may not be useful - but a few will always pop up that have open doors for anyone that can help.

    And of course there are those ZOOM Bible study groups that pop up from time to time.
     
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  12. Gary K

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    No. You are not a lost cause. You're experiencing what many, if not most, people experience until they learn about what "the will" means. I'd recommend you study Steps to Christ prayerfully especially the chapters on the will. The will does not mean gritting your teeth and putting all your effort into "keeping" the Sabbath. That can only lead to complete and utter frustration and unhappiness because none of us can keep the Sabbath on our own. None of us are capable of expelling sin from our lives. Only God can do that.

    Why did God give us the Sabbath? What is it's purpose?

    Why keep the Sabbath? Because it is a sign between God and the Sabbath keeper that the Sabbath keeper acknowledges that sanctification comes only from God. It means an end to trying to make ourselves holy: self-righteousness. What then is sanctification? It is God giving us both the desire and the ability to be holy. For it is God who worketh within you both to will and to do of His good pleasure.

    That's why understanding our own will is so important as what it is is simply our power to choose to follow God. We can do that. We cannot change our hearts. That we must trust God to do.

    Here is a magnificent promise to us from The Desire of Ages. It is the secret to a successful Christian life. Notice what is said, and what is not said. Not a single word is said about striving to keep the law, but yet the promise given is that we will live a life of continual obedience.
    The above quote comes from the chapter Let Not Your Heart Be Troubled

    The "striving" part is in working on getting to know God and learning to trust Him. It's spending as much possible time as we can with God. And it involves telling God, as our friend, what our spiritual problems are and asking Him to heal all our spiritual problems while trusting Him to do exactly that.

    A couple of my favorite promises of God are: Ezekiel 36:22-27, and Jeremiah 31:31-34. I have relied upon these promises through thick and thin and God has always pulled me through. His promises never fail. We just need to keep trusting God to do what He has promised to do for us and getting to know the word.

    What is life eternal? Knowing God. That's according to God, i.e. Jesus. I know He is trustworthy. Take Him at His word. Get to know Him for that is eternal life.
     
  13. Gary O'

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    Funny.....I've been reading, rereading....and rereading that little book for the last few months.
    It's packed with wonderful things.
    There's relief in those pages.
    And solid direction.

    Thank you, brother K
     
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    "All true obedience comes from the heart. It was heart work with Christ. And if we consent, He will so identify Himself with our thoughts and aims, so blend our hearts and minds into conformity to His will, that when obeying Him we shall be but carrying out our own impulses. The will, refined and sanctified, will find its highest delight in doing His service. When we know God as it is our privilege to know Him, our life will be a life of continual obedience. Through an appreciation of the character of Christ, through communion with God, sin will become hateful to us."

    THIS.....is what I'm beginning to experience.
    And there's a pure joy in that.
    Yessir
     
  15. SabbathBlessings

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    Happy Sabbath all! :rose:
     
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    Happy Sabbath!
     
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    'Tis
     
  18. Gary K

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    You're welcome. I try to help all those who are honestly struggling all I can as I've been there and done that. I know how bad it feels so I point to those things that have done a lot for me.
     
  19. Gary K

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    That entire chapter is jammed full of precious promises. It's by far my favorite chapter in Desire of Ages as to me it seems to focus almost exclusively on righteousness by faith, my favorite subject.
     
  20. Gary O'

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    It has been a joyous Sabbath.

    Thank you all, for the guidance
     
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