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Hate Speech...

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by Carl Emerson, Jan 13, 2021.

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  1. Confused-by-christianity

    Confused-by-christianity Well-Known Member

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    Can you post the sources?
     
  2. JohnDB

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    *Sigh*

    I'm not sure what history book you need...
     
  3. Confused-by-christianity

    Confused-by-christianity Well-Known Member

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    We can start with where you got that information from ? From there you can post the numbers that show this is happening a lot??
     
  4. JohnDB

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    If only there existed a "World Wide Web" of information out there...*sigh*
    I guess someone will need to invent it.
     
  5. Jamsie

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  6. Confused-by-christianity

    Confused-by-christianity Well-Known Member

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    The www won’t tell me your source. Only you know that. Do you have it??
     
  7. NerdGirl

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    To each, their own opinion.

    It's a slippery slope from this:
    Person A says "Go kill that person" directly to Person B, and Person B goes out and kills the aforementioned person, and Person A is guilty of inciting crime/violence.

    To this:
    Person A says "Fight for what you believe in!" and Person B hears/reads this, interprets it to mean that violence is acceptable in achieving his personal aims, and goes out and kills someone. Person A is not responsible in any way, shape, or form, for Person B's actions.
     
  8. NerdGirl

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    And who gets to define "denigrates", "perceived membership", "epithets", "promote", "intended" and "incite"? Start down the slippery slope, and you'll just keep sliding further and further.

    Insults are not crimes.
     
  9. NerdGirl

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    The moment you try to define what is a moral "duty" for another person, you're infringing on their rights. Nobody should be forced through the rule of law, to be "nice". Being nice is a good, moral, ethical thing to do. But it shouldn't be mandated by laws. Men should always retain their freedom to be imperfect, rude, stupid, etc. You can't legislate perfection.
     
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  10. JohnDB

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    Oh yeah?

    Well,
    My momma is uglier than your mamma.

    ROFL.

    To me, this "respecting" of other people's feelings has gotten way out of control.

    When you get confused with a person's decided gender for the day and then use some exclamitory remarks in frustration...that's one thing.

    But to declare someone who is an elected official shouldn't be breathing....that's another altogether.
     
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  12. Confused-by-christianity

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    No, you can’t make a law regarding the heart. Still, I think freedom of expression which neglects duty is going to incur social penalties. (Please note: I am not saying laws should be made to force people to do their duty regarding freedom of speech, not an I saying that’s even possible)
     
  13. NerdGirl

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    To be fair, SPLC is a bit of a meme to most people.

    They tend to pick out individuals that are connected with groups, and then use that individual's comments as if they stand as the policies of the entire group, which is disingenuous at best, and ludicrous at worst.
     
  14. Confused-by-christianity

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    Ordinarily speaking, if you say something is true - it’s up to you to prove it or show it to be true, or at least provide a reason why you think it’s true (like an article or book or something). That’s if you would like others to believe it also. Without that, the claim might not be very persuasive and your point may be largely overlooked.
     
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  15. Redwingfan9

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    It depends on what we define as hate? Is reciting Leviticus 18:22 hate? According to the left it is.

    I would submit that the state should stay out of the business of hate speech. It isn't their job to determine what it is, regulate it or punish it.
     
  16. SilverBear

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    if everyone were good, moral and ethical there would be no need for any laws much less lows concerning hate speech
     
  17. SilverBear

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    Please name the preachers in this country has been incarcerated and just what were they preaching
     
  18. JohnDB

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    *rolls eyes and walks away*

    I'm done.
    I really have no interest in people who want to have disengenous conversation.
     
  19. NerdGirl

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    That's the thing, though.

    It's one thing to say "You can't murder another person".
    It's another to say "You can't upset another person."

    One is reasonable. The other is not.
     
  20. SilverBear

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    the people they do this with are founders and leaders of the group often acting as spokesperson for their group...why is that disingenuous?
     
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