Has the gay community infiltrated this website?

[Lisa0315]

Actually the post suggesting christians should have multiple sex partners bothered me more than any gay post. I couldn't believe some christians would believe this. I should have focused more on this in my post.Sorry to anyone that I offended with the title of my post.

I am having a bad communication day

I can guess who the poster is. I am almost positive that I know him. However, please understand that those who are lost cannot be expected to understand the light. It is up to us to show them.

Lisa

 

[Girly3302]

Look, I think the problem here is that you are new. Just apologize, recant, and learn from it. I am sure you are not really a mean spirited person.

Understand that there are many people here who need God. Understand there are many people here who are telling others that God overlooks sin. However, if the truth is to be made known, then, we have to do it in a spirit of love.

Truth without compassion results in a greater sin than any sexual sin ever committed. It results in blood on our hands. We are responsible for every person we come in contact with here. Have we shown them the love of Christ? Have we told them the truth?

We may be rejected. We may be mocked. That is meaningless. We must let Christ work through us so that every word we speak here may touch someone somewhere sometime.

Put on your whole armor. Do not let yourself be distracted from the mission.

Lisa

Excellent advice!!!!
Thank you for your advice.
May the Lord bless you

 

[Lisa0315]

You have a good point.Maybe I should not have mentioned gays in my post.I am sorry if I mis-communicated my point.

Good on you. That shows a humble heart.

I have a verse for you. It is one of my favorites and it keeps me out of a lot of trouble in this forum.

I Peter 1


1 Simon F1 Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to F2 glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren F3 nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[chris777]

Now, my question to you:

What if the "atheist trolls" who are reported are actually Christians?

Oftimes I pick up a perception that "all Christians should think alike" (or at least agree with what conservatives believe) -- and if they don't agree, then they're an atheist (or gay).

I was refering to a couple of posters that I was reading their threads to try to get a better idea of what they believe, and I took note that in one thread they would come in and give this genuine appearing inquiry to have someone try and enlighten then, and in the other boards, would spout off lines like "how can you fools believe anything this worthless book says, and its imaginary god" and in some cases come right out and say "their is no god"

Those are the ones I call trolls, they are punks, who come in just to wreak havoc, and when they have had their fun they will never return.

As for the liberal, and those who disbelieve infalibility,
I ask people individually what they believe, fishing to try to get an understanding, because yes it baffles me, how some people believe certain parts as true, and then toss the rest, but the thing it they do it on different parts, so you have the TE who thinks the creation was a total myth, and that exodus was total bunk, and fantasy, but then they have no problem with believing the entirity of revalation as literal prophecy waiting to be fufilled, with flying mountains, and car sized flaming hail. That baffles me, and many are so guarded about it, they come in and viciously attack literalist, but when someone ask them a question, about what they actually believe, they ignore you and wont divulge it,
I dont know if those are trolls or not , but their are a number of them, that are in these boards, that are just as eleitist as the literals who would call you an atheist, only instead of being called atheist, they would call us, ignorant fools. Particularly in the TE boards which I now boycott, I have no problems with debate, but when I am viciously attacked, by Confessed atheist and then "christians" harp in in chime with the confessed opponents of God, Well you can make your own discernment on that one.

 

[chris777]

Talking about me?

no


atheist, in one board
christians in another

 

[davedjy]

Do you think that all gay Christians are perfect and incapable of bashing other Christians?

That isn't what I said. I am talking about what behavior is going on here. Sort of like a defense mechanism, instead of people just loving others. I had to get out of a few different debates due to the nasty behavior that was incited upon me. I am a human being standing up for my beliefs, and I will not tolerate disrespect, I will just leave those debates.

 

[chris777]

Those are very biased translations. The NIV and Modern translations are very clear on homosexuality.

The Leviticus arguments fall into the trash because they are not moral violations, but from purity code violations.
Romans 1 "For this cause", read verse 23, it's about idolatry to a pagan God, 1 Cor 6:9 biased translation of an unknown word, meant to be masturbation by the Early Church fathers.

did you not just yesterday call the niv a biased translation?

and on that not what exactly is an unbiased one?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Would you say there is a difference from flaunting it compared to someone working to be delivered from it like someone who struggles with a porn addiction ?

Would you say there is a difference between "flaunting" and trying to gain acceptance?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

did you not just yesterday call the niv a biased translation?

and on that not what exactly is an unbiased one?

ALL translations are susceptible to bias, just like all books of the Bible, being written by humans, are not immune to bias and agenda.

This is why God gave us brains, so we can determine where bias exists and seperate it from divine message.

Otherwise you are left trying to take the Bible as completely literal and inerrant, which is pretty difficult, what with pi=3 and the birds with 4 legs and all...

 

[chris777]

We aren't saved by repentance, we are saved by grace through faith. Repentance is an act on your part, and we aren't saved by our own actions. That doesn't negate the necessity, but if you don't repent of a lie you told 10 years ago, you aren't gonna go to hell....same principle applies here.

Bottom line = God will judge us, but humans are not to.

actually

1 Corinthians 5

1It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of such a kind as does not exist even among the Gentiles, that someone has his father's wife. 2You have become arrogant and have not mourned instead, so that the one who had done this deed would be removed from your midst.
3For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this, as though I were present.
4In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus,
5I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6Your boasting is not good Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough?
7Clean out the old leaven so that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed.
8Therefore let us celebrate the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people;
10I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world.
11But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler--not even to eat with such a one.
12For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church?
13But those who are outside, God judges. REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Yep... more from Paul.

Nothing from Jesus.

 

[chris777]

Yep... more from Paul.

Nothing from Jesus.

Again Paul was a confirmed apostle by the others that remained who met Christ in person

 

[davedjy]

Again Paul was a confirmed apostle by the others that remained who met Christ in person

I don't have a problem w/Paul, I have a problem w/the interpretations of Paul's work. Btw, Paul also condoned slavery and belittling of women in the Bible. Believe it or not, the Bible is not perfect...

 

[MrsJoy]

belittling lol
if you say that you have to say that we are belittling Christ because He is under God.

 

[chris777]

I don't have a problem w/Paul, I have a problem w/the interpretations of Paul's work. Btw, Paul also condoned slavery and belittling of women in the Bible. Believe it or not, the Bible is not perfect...

What is with you ane enemy answering each others post?

I have no problems with slavery, as we are deluded into believing we are free when we are not, I am also a Slave of Christ, as for women, belittleing is a bit excessive.


I would rather you reply to my questions to you

 

[davedjy]

What is with you ane enemy answering each others post?

I have no problems with slavery, as we are deluded into believing we are free when we are not, I am also a Slave of Christ, as for women, belittleing is a bit excessive.


I would rather you reply to my questions to you

Slavery...why is it so hard for you to understand? do you know what Slavery the Bible is talking about? Not about being slaves to Christ, but slaves to man, it's very wrong, and also allowed in the Bible, and instructed how to go about.

 

[davedjy]

belittling lol
if you say that you have to say that we are belittling Christ because He is under God.

No, I mean the human treatement of men to women. It was very wrong in the Bible, and I won't tolerate applying that to current relationships. Women are not inferior to men, but the Bible implies that a lot, which is wrong.

 

[MrsJoy]

different is not belittlement
i am very proud to be different from a man (who wants to be a man...errr...i mean )

 

[davedjy]

different is not belittlement
i am very proud to be different from a man (who wants to be a man...errr...i mean )

No, I mean the stuff about silencing your wives and various things. I have been rebuked better by adult Christian women than men by a huge margin! more effective!

 

[MrsJoy]

i knew to what you were referring and i agree with it. (by it i mean what Scripture has to say to women)
btw, discussing on a forum is not the same thing as being in church.
but i'm not going to derail this thread (although that might be a good idea...)