Has Ellen Degeneres Opened Doors For Christians?

[Mrs.PGL]

Following Christ is not discrimination. It is wisdom

That's not the same situation and this has been explained to a hundred times already.

A tv show chooses the type of programming and guests they want to feature much like a baker would choose the type of pastries and cakes they want to sell.

What you are suggesting is to force Ellen (the baker) to feature a guest she doesn't want on her show. Much like forcing a baker to sell tires.

It's not discrimination if a baker doesn't want to sell tires.

Nope. Nope, Ellen voluntarily invited that guest on her show, and then discriminated against her, when she didn't like her politics.

 

[Mrs.PGL]

I see nothing about homosexuality there...

And let's be clear, you'd be perfectly justified in saying "Homosexuality is against my Christian beliefs and against the teachings of my Christian denomination." That may very well be true, and I wouldn't argue with that fact. Religion isn't limited to what its founder is quoted as saying. I recognize that. But you keep saying specifically "Christ's teachings," when that simply isn't true for this topic. You might wish it were, but you've been unable to support that claim.

Am I correct that you have no clear understanding of scripture?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Never mind. I am beginning to think that this is a Poe, as was mentioned earlier.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nope. Nope, Ellen voluntarily invited that guest on her show, and then discriminated against her, when she didn't like her politics.

Ellen dumped her when she showed that she was spreading hate. There was no 'discrimination'.

 

[thesopranopiano]

So, again, should Christians be allowed the same parameters, and not need to bake cakes for events they consider wrong?

Christian bakers are free to sell whatever cake they want. But once someone buys that cake, it no longer belongs to the baker, and whoever purchased it is free to use it for whatever event they want.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

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[USincognito]

Like Ellen insulted her,

Well, now we've officially entered Bizarroworld.

So, should her behaviour not endorse refusing condoning behaviour Christians don't agree with?

Yeah! You are referring to the Gospel awards show disinviting Burrell, right?

 

[USincognito]

Yes she did. She invited her onto the show and then rejected her - cancelling her appearance because she believes Christ. It is as simple as that

Then why did the Gospel awards show cancel her appearance?

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Nope. Nope, Ellen voluntarily invited that guest on her show, and then discriminated against her, when she didn't like her politics.

What she did was legal. And you're still equivocating.

Listen, no one agrees with you. No one is going to agree with you. Because you're wrong.

 

[USincognito]

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Probably for entertainment value.

 

[thesopranopiano]

Then why did the Gospel awards show cancel her appearance?

'Cause they disagreed with her Christian politics. Obviously.

 

[Cearbhall]

Am I correct that you have no clear understanding of scripture?

No, you are not. Is that really your only response? I'm starting to think that you're playing us.

 

[bhsmte]

So, again, should Christians be allowed the same parameters, and not need to bake cakes for events they consider wrong?

If this christian has their own television show, they are free not to invite whoever they wish to eat cake.

 

[cow451]

Does not lessen that discrimination is illegal, and she endorsed that - because of hurt feelings. She chose to go "snowflake"

Not all discrimination is illegal as has been explained to you multiple times. Your inability to grasp the legal issue is your problem, not mine.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Nope. Nope, Ellen voluntarily invited that guest on her show, and then discriminated against her, when she didn't like her politics.

And?

If she is the one who voluntarily invited her on, how is it any problem that she then voluntarily chose to uninvite her?

Again, I'm not seeing any problem with a show host deciding what to have on her show.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

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I don't think even Kim Burrell was as offended over this as the OP is.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Then why did the Gospel awards show cancel her appearance?

We tried covering that several pages back but it was ignored because there's a persecution narrative to sell here.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Then why did the Gospel awards show cancel her appearance?

I was the first person to mention the gospel awards show cancelling her appearance, as well as her radio being canceled after her homophobic rant, but both were dismissed as political correctness by another member who supported the OP.

 

[LinguaIgnota]

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Reading the thread, you either got incredibly frustrated or had a few good chuckles. I chuckled.

 

[Mrs.PGL]

Romans 6:16 ESV
Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?