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Kristen.NewCreation and FreeinChrist
Please, Please people... you are not demonic controlled!!!!! Aspergers is NOT from Satan or his demons! You have a short wiring in the brain and some of the messages in your brain get scrambled or not delivered at all!!!!! But, demons did not cause it! You were born that way. God said he knew you in the womb and no way did he allow Satan or his demons to interfere!
You are special... God made you special! Do NOT let me read of you being this way because Satan. He did not do this to you. Instead of blaming Satan, look for ways to live for God and show the world how special you are!
Romans 8:28And we know that all things work together for good the them that love God, to them who are called according to his purpose God has a plan and purpose for you. find out what it is and use it to his glory.
grandma
Thanks , but no thanks for the reply. We are all special and God does not accept the excuse of being a piece of trash from individuals with a Syndrome. Listen to James and then say to yourself, My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, (3) knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. James 1:2Complete trash. No, He did not. I know with my own life that I am not doing what I am supposed to. The reason why is because somehow, I ticked off God before I was born and I am paying the price for it when He gave me both Asperger Syndrome and Cerebral Palsy. I am not special, I am a piece of trash. If I was truly special, I should be working for either Airbus or Boeing and living according to my plans and to my dreams. Am I doing that? No. Now, thanks to the fact that I murdered an armadillo back in April, I have to executed myself in the worst ways imaginable and go straight to Hell with no judgement put onto me. I am done with that lie and I will express my true feelings about myself to the max.
Resurrecting zombie threads may have something to do with demons .......
Resurrecting zombie threads may have something to do with demons .......
I'm stunned by this thread! No, Asperger's has nothing to do with "devils". OR with vaccines (just to cover all the crazy bases in one go.)
In the past, and in some instances right to the present day, illness was attributed to demons. This was particularly true with illnesses that manifested in mental or behavioural symptoms. In the past four centuries, particularly after the invention of the microscope, we have discovered much more about disease than was possible in the past. We now know that disease can be caused by any number of completely natural causes. The demons now have names --- they are called bacteria, viruses, allergies, chemical imbalances, etc. --- none are spiritually malevolent.
I definitely get people thinking that like 1000 yrs ago, even 100 yrs ago maybe. I think they explained away a lot of illnesses & stuff on superstitious beliefs, bc they didn't have a way to find a proper explanation. This thread is really old for the internet but not really old. I think it was started in 2008. My sister has Asperger's. I've never heard of anyone saying that it was due to "devils" or anything like that, ever. I've heard horribly ignorant people claim that Asperger's is bc of vaccines & that burns me up a lot. That's bad enough of a hideous lie.
While I don't believe that Asperger's is normally demonic, these kinds of pronouncements fly straight into the teeth of those of us who are Aspies AND Charismatic/Pentecostal. (That POV verges on Atheism or, at least, Deism.)I definitely get people thinking that like 1000 yrs ago, even 100 yrs ago maybe. I think they explained away a lot of illnesses & stuff on superstitious beliefs, bc they didn't have a way to find a proper explanation.
Demons are real. We see them in the gospels and in acts. And yes, many things were incorrectly attributed to them in the past. But the fact that we now have the tools to more correctly attribute these maladies does NOT mean that the other does not exist. It just means that we need to rely on the spiritual gifting of Discerning of Spirits (see 1 Cor 12) to determine whether or not the demonic is involved.The demons now have names --- they are called bacteria, viruses, allergies, chemical imbalances, etc. --- none are spiritually malevolent.
Actually they DID have a way but they refused to use it. It is called spiritual discernment.I definitely get people thinking that like 1000 yrs ago, even 100 yrs ago maybe. I think they explained away a lot of illnesses & stuff on superstitious beliefs, bc they didn't have a way to find a proper explanation.
Yes. Medicine can only remedy (where indeed it can) the proximate manifestations of whatever form the noxious effects of Original Sin on our health may take. The Original Sin of our first parents is the ultimate cause, however, of all illnesses, indeed imperfections in this life. One can argue that life itself is mortally flawed, since it leads to death (hence the expressions, 'mortal life', mortality, etc). Despite repeated announcements in the newspapers that a cure for growing old and dying has been found, it's all 'pie in the sky'.While I don't believe that Asperger's is normally demonic, these kinds of pronouncements fly straight into the teeth of those of us who are Aspies AND Charismatic/Pentecostal. (That POV verges on Atheism or, at least, Deism.)
We believe that the world is subject to physical laws AND spiritual laws. If you can fix a physical problem by physical means, then do that. If your problem(s) are resistant to physical solutions, it becomes time to consider underlying spiritual causes (and solutions).
Physical healings (which Jesus said would be exhibited among His disciples) are supernatural acts overriding natural conditions and testable. He said (in Mark 16:17-18 KJV):
"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
Jesus cast out demons* (and said His believers would, too). Are you calling HIM superstitious...!?
Jesus (supernaturally**) healed the sick (and said His believers would, too). Are you saying that those healings weren't real?
*Without counseling sessions or psychotropic drugs...
**Without shots or pills...
While I don't believe that Asperger's is normally demonic, these kinds of pronouncements fly straight into the teeth of those of us who are Aspies AND Charismatic/Pentecostal. (That POV verges on Atheism or, at least, Deism.)
We believe that the world is subject to physical laws AND spiritual laws. If you can fix a physical problem by physical means, then do that. If your problem(s) are resistant to physical solutions, it becomes time to consider underlying spiritual causes (and solutions).
Physical healings (which Jesus said would be exhibited among His disciples) are supernatural acts overriding natural conditions and testable. He said (in Mark 16:17-18 KJV):
"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
Jesus cast out demons* (and said His believers would, too). Are you calling HIM superstitious...!?
Jesus (supernaturally**) healed the sick (and said His believers would, too). Are you saying that those healings weren't real?
*Without counseling sessions or psychotropic drugs...
**Without shots or pills...
Actually they DID have a way but they refused to use it. It is called spiritual discernment.
Asperger's is never demonic.
There is no need to cry. Everything that has a natural cause like blindness and Aspergers can be (and has been) faked by demons at one time or another. I have Aspergers and, by all accounts, it does not appear to be demonic. But I have had (and been delivered of) a number of spirits that NTs might have, too (e.g. a proud or religious spirit). Being on the spectrum does not make us impervious to demonic oppression, just as we are not impervious to viral, bacterial and fungal infections. We just wear it differently.I read your post this morning, & I cried. Bc I realized there are people IRL who are lead to believe their Asperger's or their family member's Asperger's was caused by demons or the devils or whatever.
Asperger's is never demonic. I looked at your profile. You wrote that were diagnosed as an Aspie at age 45. My older sister was properly diagnosed with Asperger's when she was little. She was born in 96, in a really good family, in a really good community. We're Christians but we don't shun science or proper medical care. She went to a elementary school that had a special program for kids with Asperger's. She had a music therapist who specialized in working with Aspie kids. She's done exceptionally well at music bc of that! She's thrived pretty much her whole entire life, thanks to getting the right care for her being an Aspie. She got a full merit scholarship to the University of Chicago - that's $70,000 a yr they give to her - which is one of the best universities in the entire world. Bc she's AMAZING. I think bc of when & where she was born, our family had way more access to knowledge & medical care. Her entire life would have been different if she or our parents had been told that demons or devils were the cause & she hadn't gotten the care that she did. She's not on psychotropic drugs, or taking shots, either.
I read your post this morning, & I cried. Bc I realized there are people IRL who are lead to believe their Asperger's or their family member's Asperger's was caused by demons or the devils or whatever. It hurt my heart so much that there are people who are deluded into thinking that. Worse, that they twist Scriptures around. You are dead wrong that my post verged on atheism or deism. No. It does not & that's manipulative of you. It is based on honest facts. I stand firm behind what I wrote & if you've or someone else has got a problem with it, that's not my problem at all.
Do not ever write to me again. Put me on your ignore list please. I'm going to put you on mine. I'm glad I read your post tho. As soon as my parents walk in the door this afternoon I'm going to give them a hug for doing right by my sister. You made me so grateful that she has never, ever, ever had someone tell her such delusional, hurtful, cruel lies. I can't even imagine how much it would hurt to be lead to believe that devils or demons had caused you or someone you love to have Asperger's. SMH.
Many people have thought they were using spiritual discernment but were wrong.My friend here wrote to me bc she read that man's post. Her parents are drs & have volunteered around the world in really poor areas where there's not much proper medical care. They've treated people who've had illnesses & diseases that locals thought were caused by demons. Some have used the same scriptures that man just did, to justify it. It caused the people "afflicted" to be shunned, subjected to exorcisms & stuff. Not given proper care to actually treat them. To feel so much despair & agony. She said there was this little girl in Peru who was beaten, starved, isolated, bc a priest told her family she had a demon inside her & they were trying to get it out. It was bc the girl would have these tantrums all the time, never listened & spoke gibberish. Her dad diagnosed the girl as being deaf & having some really painful infections. She was not "possessed". She changed for the better once she got the right treatment, but the abuse she suffered probably did lasting damage.She said people have thought cancer was caused by demons, too & not gotten treatment that could save their lives bc of that. I shudder to think what could have happened to my sister if she'd been born in a different time & place & into a different family than ours.
That was a (mis?)response to my post and profile, but I would have said much of the same thing.Incidentally, you must have been looking at the wrong profile. I have never been diagnosed as an Aspie, at 45 or any other age,.