Harry Potter

[Loukuss]

Because nobody asks a candy bar to answer questions-and contact spirits! If they did- the candy bar would be in the same boat.

I very nice, straightforward answer.
The bible prohibits us from necromancy and similiar things. Trying to contact spirits is not a good idea at all.

Am I crazy?

I dont think so.

Blessings,

Lucas

 

[Gwenyfur]

I don't know why you keep telling us that you were a witch. It's as if you are proud of this or something.

Also, I had a genuine experience with demons through the Ouija board. If you want to deny this, then that is your right. But your denial of the experience that I had will never change what really happened to me, and those who were with me when it happened.

Nice way to read into it...

No I'm not exactly proud of being a witch...but it is who I was for more than 1/2 of my life...it's a fact...can't change it...but I'm not going to hide it in shame...not when that knowledge can be used to defray the lies and myths and fairytales...

And I do get irritated when fundamentalists read more into something then what's there...a dimestore ouija board has no power...and more often than not the "experiences" poeple have with them are nothing more than imagination brought on by all the hysteria and paranoia of the "forbidden"

It's a joke...

Teach your kids the truth adn they will know the difference...Teach them of G-d and His Love, His Son's sacrifice on the cross...adn the rest the Holy Spirit will discern for them...teach them faithfulness ... teach them of the armor of G-d...the rest...get real adn quit dwelling on fairy tales you obviously know very little of...

 

[woobadooba]

And I do get irritated when fundamentalists read more into something then what's there...a dimestore ouija board has no power...and more often than not the "experiences" poeple have with them are nothing more than imagination brought on by all the hysteria and paranoia of the "forbidden"

It's a joke...

I find it to be disturbing that you would so easily dismiss my experience as being imaginative.

And I suppose that all of the private things that it disclosed about one of my friends who was present at the time, things that those of us who were there couldn't have possibly known, was imaginative too right?

You obviously don't know what you are talking about here.

By the way, I am not a fundamentalist.

 

[woobadooba]

As a side note, some people in here seem to think that the Ouija board is an innocent game. Trust me, it isn't. And I encourage you all to keep your children as far away from it as you can.

 

[Gwenyfur]

I find it to be disturbing that you would so easily dismiss my experience as being imaginative.

And I suppose that all of the private things that it disclosed about one of my friends who was present at the time, things that those of us who were there couldn't have possibly known, was imaginative too right?

You obviously don't know what you are talking about here.

By the way, I am not a fundamentalist.

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a pice of carboard has not hte power to summon spirits...get real...soemthign that happened when you were a child...some emotional response exaggerated in adulthood...hysterical imaginations brought on by doing something "forbidden" adn now that you're older you want to rave about the evils of this world...

Well...get in line...the world is full of people howlling evil that, heresy this, forbidden that....keep it up and we'll be back to the inquisitions and hysteria of the witch hunts...good grief...

instead of howling the evils of the world...that you know very little of obviously...why not cry out the good and hope that Y'shua Messiah has brought?...but that would make too much sense wouldn't it???....and not be nearly so fun as causing a ruckus with people who know a lot more about the occult adn it's inner workings and powers than you do...

Ya talk like a fundy, rant like a fundy, and rave like a fundy...

must be a fundy

 

[woobadooba]

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a pice of carboard has not hte power to summon spirits...get real...soemthign that happened when you were a child...some emotional response exaggerated in adulthood...hysterical imaginations brought on by doing something "forbidden" adn now that you're older you want to rave about the evils of this world...

Well...get in line...the world is full of people howlling evil that, heresy this, forbidden that....keep it up and we'll be back to the inquisitions and hysteria of the witch hunts...good grief...

instead of howling the evils of the world...that you know very little of obviously...why not cry out the good and hope that Y'shua Messiah has brought?...but that would make too much sense wouldn't it???....and not be nearly so fun as causing a ruckus with people who know a lot more about the occult adn it's inner workings and powers than you do...

Ya talk like a fundy, rant like a fundy, and rave like a fundy...

must be a fundy

1. I wasn't a child when I used it, but an adult.

2. I don't appreciate you insisting that my experience was all in my mind. You are making too many assumptions.

3. Stop referring to me as a Fundy. You are flaming me by doing this, because I already told you that I am not a fundamentalist.

 

[Gwenyfur]

Sorry...but your posts on this thread are pretty much a fundamental stance

nice to see you completely ignored the need to take Messiah's love to the people isntead of screaming about their evil

 

[woobadooba]

Sorry...but your posts on this thread are pretty much a fundamental stance

That is your opinion.

And in my opinion, your posts are too presumptuous, since you so easily dismiss the experiences of others when you weren't even present to see what actually happened.

Now then, you can tell me what you think you know about my experience, but my experience was very real; and I know this to be true because I wasn't the only one who experienced it when it happened. But just because you may not have had the same experience that my friends and I had, that does not mean my experience should be so easily dismissed.

 

[Eruliel]

Aren't we all tired of this subject yet?!? There've been like 20 posts about this subject and no one has succeeded in winning the discussion about whether Harry Potter is from the devil or not, so I find it rather redundant to continue discussing something no one can come to agreement over.
Just my $0.01
Slainte!
Eruliel

 

[woobadooba]

Aren't we all tired of this subject yet?!? There've been like 20 posts about this subject and no one has succeeded in winning the discussion about whether Harry Potter is from the devil or not, so I find it rather redundant to continue discussing something no one can come to agreement over.
Just my $0.01
Slainte!
Eruliel

So then the problem that has to be addressed is why Christians are not coming to an agreement on this.

And I do believe I attempted to address this question
in post #26, but it seems that no one wants to take notice of it.

 

[Enacielle777]

Hello Christians,
Today I'm going to display to you fine folks, the evilness of Harry Potter. The book is based off of hate. You should not allow your kids to read it as it leads to the occult. The encourages voodoo magic. Your kids may begin by reading Harry Potter but they will continue into deads such as playing dungeans and dragons and magic the gathering. Pretty soon they will attempt to learn voodoo magic from the devil himself.

If you wish your kids don't become dark magicians, then you should encourage them to read the Lord of the Rings by J.K.Tolkien. This book is completely acceptable because J.K.Tolkien was Christian.

Don't allow your children to be spawns of the devil. Boycott Harry Potter.

I find it terribly obnoxious for Christians to ban something like Harry Potter and support something like Lord of the Rings. What happened to trusting in our parenting ability? What happened to allowing our children to experience life and trust that God will be God? My daughter has read both series of books and has not become a magician. She has not fallen into Wicca. She has not began cursing God or playing dungeons and dragons.

I raise her the right way and she stays with the right way. She follows God and trusts Him with all of her heart. I wish more parents would learn to trust in their God to raise their children appropriately. I wish more parents would encourage their children to be able to read things from the world without thinking they will become like the world. We are in the world not of it and yet we shelter our children from great fiction because we fear if they hear something other than what we believe they will turn from our beliefs. How about we let God be God and trust our children to make the right decisions. If we continue to ban fiction because we think no one but Christian authors can write a good story, how can we trust our children to stay away from sex, drugs, and the other things in the world? We can not shelter them forever.

Just my humble opinion from a mother who has raised a daughter who loves Christ and still reads Harry Potter.

 

[DarkCloud]

At this point I feel that I've said what God willed for me to say. I'm no prophet, but I am one who is experienced, and aware of what is really happening through the media.

People will either accept what has been said, or they will reject it. But there is no sense in arguing about it. I can only warn people of the impending danger that lies ahead of the path that they've chosen to tread, but I can't convince them to take another course.

I find it interesting how you say you are no longer going to argue on Post #46, yet continue to do so, thereby essentially ignoring my post #42.

As a side note, some people in here seem to think that the Ouija board is an innocent game. Trust me, it isn't. And I encourage you all to keep your children as far away from it as you can.

Why should I trust you? How about, Ouiji boards are a bunch of nonsense as well as all this other talk of spells and sorcery and we come back to reality...*trust me*

Now then, you can tell me what you think you know about my experience, but my experience was very real; and I know this to be true because I wasn't the only one who experienced it when it happened. But just because you may not have had the same experience that my friends and I had, that does not mean my experience should be so easily dismissed.

As far as post 26, I get the feeling of hyper-paranoia about the devil. By the way, isn't the passion rated R? Movies with sexual themes and violence aren't necessarily bad for adults. It just so happens people have sex and wage wars in this world, and films/books reflect that.

 

[Loukuss]

As a side note, some people in here seem to think that the Ouija board is an innocent game. Trust me, it isn't. And I encourage you all to keep your children as far away from it as you can.

When I was away on a leadership trip in grade 9, a few friends and I used a Ouiji board. We were very skeptical about the whole thing, laughing about it. Things got very strange and scared the daylights out of us. We slept curled together like freightened little children the rest of the night.
Ouiji boards arent good things.
The things I witnessed that night were real enough and scarey enough to never do it again.

 

[Loukuss]

DarkCloud,

You going to get around to post #50 anytime soon...?


Lucas

 

[woobadooba]

I am confused! I should stop reading everything altogether!

No, you don't have to stop reading. Just let Phil. 4:8 be your guide on what you ought to be reading as a Christian:

"Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."

 

[Mandrake]

*Still whistling*

 

[DarkCloud]

Quote Originally Posted by: DarkCloud




And I suppose Ouji boards lead to the occult to.


Actually, they do.

Sigh. How to demonstrate it? You'll give me an example of how you felt weird after using one, but that's hardly convincing evidence.

Quote Originally Posted by: DarkCloud




The whole thing with the occult and voodoo magic is just there because it makes good media coverage, but it doesn't actually go on.


You are obviously quite uneducated in this field. You really shouldnt talk about things you know little about.

Nice, just say i'm dumb to try and discredit me. However, by not providing any evidence to support yourself, and just name calling, you are actually the one that looks uneducated.

Also the devil has bigger fish to fry than our kids.


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!!? Our children are exactly who the devil goes after. He wants to corrupt them while they are young, before they come to know Jesus Christ. DarkCloud, you are very wrong.

Oh and Lucas somehow knows exactly what the devil's strategy is. Welp, when you find evidence that outlines the devil's strategy, I'm all ears, but so far everything you are saying seems to be made up and speculation.

Quote Originally Posted by: DarkCloud




He caused a war in Iraq for instance in which REAL people are dying and REAL people are getting their legs blown off.


Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Our war against Satan is a spiritual war. Not everything is in the physicaly realm.
Educated yourself before you jump the gun.

Learn how to support an argument. Your post is a joke and nothing more than wild speculation. I.e., you give zero evidence to support your claims, and just try to say I'm dumb.

Jesus will take care of the devil when the time comes. We have nothing to be afraid of except, in some cases, ourselves and each other. Are you that weak in your faith that you fear the devil around every corner?

DarkCloud,
You going to get around to post #50 anytime soon...?
Lucas

Post #50 was nothing to be proud of...

When I was away on a leadership trip in grade 9, a few friends and I used a Ouiji board. We were very skeptical about the whole thing, laughing about it. Things got very strange and scared the daylights out of us. We slept curled together like freightened little children the rest of the night.
Ouiji boards arent good things.
The things I witnessed that night were real enough and scarey enough to never do it again.

Well, when I was little I saw some scary movies and had terrible nights sleep and nightmares. Terrible experience, but I attribute it to working myself into a frenzy, rather than demons. The mind is powerful and can really play tricks on you, especially when you are young. Don't be so quick to jump the gun, always look for alternative explanations.

 

[woobadooba]

DarkCloud,

You going to get around to post #50 anytime soon...?


Lucas

Just ignore him. He is being antagonistic.

 

[woobadooba]

To those who may be interested in reading something about the hidden dangers of HP, you can go here:

http://amazingfacts.org/items/Read_Media.asp?ID=1560

 

[Gwenyfur]