Harris family were slave owners

[A_Thinker]

I'm not familiar with the one drop rule.

You know ... one drop of black blood (i.e. one black ancestor) ... makes you officially black.

The American rule was more black and white (pardon the pun) than the South African rule where there was a legal catgory for whites (i.e. no black heritage), coloreds (i.e. some black heritage), ... and blacks (i.e. all black heritage).

Trevor Noah recounts how the South African system gaves his family fits as he was coming up. Due to laws against blacks and whites procreating, it was a crime for a black woman (like Trevor's mother) to have a colored child (like Trevor) ... whose father was white.

So they had to pretend that Trevor's mother ... was really his nanny ... to keep the family out of trouble.

 

[TLK Valentine]

It's an interesting question. It cannot be anywhere close to a majority, that's for sure.

Most Americans descend from immigrants who arrived since the Civil War and, as has already been discussed, it was only 16 or so of our present day states in which slavery was practiced at the time of the war, and most people living in those states were not slave-owners themselves. It's not going to add up to a lot of Americans in total, percentage-wise.

Which brings us back to the big question:

"Ok... so?"

 

[Under One King]

Just curious why you brought it up. It sounded like it mattered.

It seems like a lot of people say she is black, and I didn't think she really was. That's all.

 

[Albion]

You mean ... her heritage is not strictly US African-American.

Though her heritage experience is pretty similar to that of US African-Americans ...

No, it's not. However, the real issue could be something else.

I am referring to the impression, the perception, of black voters.

How many of them resent the designated nominee not being an actual descendant of American slaves and their offspring who went through the days of Jim Crow, legal segregation, lynchings, the KKK when it was a significant force during Reconstruction and, later within the Democratic Party nationally, job discrimination, etc.?

I guess it remains to be seen how many voters fall on which side of that issue.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

It seems like a lot of people say she is black, and I didn't think she really was. That's all.

She is mixed race. Half Jamaican half Indian. 100% American.

 

[Under One King]

Oh, he's dumb ... per presidential standards.

W would wipe the floor with him in a cognitive test ... just sayin' ...

No, he's dumb according to your standards. In my opinion, he's definitely one of the top five presidents. I don't know who "W" is, but it's way more likely he would do that to Biden before Trump ... just sayin'

 

[GoldenBoy89]

No, he's dumb according to your standards. In my opinion, he's definitely one of the top five presidents. I don't know who "W" is, but it's way more likely he would do that to Biden before Trump ... just sayin'

George W Bush. And given what he recently had to say about Trump at John Lewis’ funeral, I seriously doubt that.

 

[Hank77]

She is (don't forget the "one drop" rule) but she is not an African American--her father is Jamaican.

This is where I get confused. Her father isn't a white Jamaican, neither is he an indigenous Jamaican? Her father is an African Jamaican, isn't he?
So if he's African Jamaican, African born in Jamaica, isn't Kamala African American, African born in America?
There are pictures of him in this article.

Her paternal great-grandmother in Jamaica.
How Kamala Harris’ immigrant parents shaped her life — and her political outlook – Chico Enterprise-Record

 

[zippy2006]

I watched the debates. This is entirely false.

I did too. It is entirely true. Oftentimes the candidates were even reminded by each other or moderators the importance of focusing on Trump, their "Common enemy."

 

[Under One King]

She is mixed race. Half Jamaican half Indian. 100% American.

I never said she wasn't American. But I've never heard a Jamaican called black. Unless her ancestors in Jamaica were from Africa

 

[Goonie]

This thread is just embarrassing.

 

[A_Thinker]

I am referring to the impression, the perception, of black voters.

How many of them resent the designated nominee not being an actual descendant of American slaves and their offspring who went through the days of Jim Crow, legal segregation, lynchings, the KKK when it was a significant force during Reconstruction and, later within the Democratic Party nationally, job discrimination, etc.?

The majority of US blacks are celebrating Kamala's selection ... just like the majority of US blacks celebrated Obama's elections ... despite the differences in their heritages ...

 

[Under One King]

This thread is just embarrassing.

To who? You? Why should you care so much? You're from UK.

 

[Under One King]

George W Bush. And given what he recently had to say about Trump at John Lewis’ funeral, I seriously doubt that.

Let me rephrase then. He should do it to Biden before he would even think of doing it to Trump.

 

[DaisyDay]

And the left always makes effective arguments. My bad, sir, my bad.

That’s all right, Miss.

 

[Under One King]

Don't worry, you don't need a tv.

You can watch both on youtube:

It's funny at first but after a while you will probably experience a burning desire for a swift lobotomy.

I didn't watch the whole thing, but from what I saw, I thought Trump did fine. Why do you care so much anyway if you're from Germany?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I never said she wasn't American. But I've never heard a Jamaican called black. Unless her ancestors in Jamaica were from Africa

Jamaica is 92% black majority. I don’t know what Jamaica you’re thinking of but they’re more black than America is white.

 

[Albion]

The majority of US blacks are celebrating Kamala's selection

Probably so, but it matters how many. Had Biden chosen, say, one of the black Congresswomen, there is a chance it would have been a bigger percentage. Of course also, a lot depends on how she performs during the campaign.

 

[Goonie]

To who? You? Why should you care so much? You're from UK.

The country that exported and profited from slavery in America, and Jamaica for centuries.

 

[Under One King]

Jamaica is 92% black majority. I don’t know what Jamaica you’re thinking of but they’re more black than America is white.

They have dark skin, yes. I've still never heard them called blacks. I've always heard that term applied to those from Africa.