Gun Permit

[IAMANOBODY2015]

I have this weird phobia. In my mind, everyone is a potential serial killer. I actually did not know people kill just for fun. But then I watched a documentary on serial killers and they enjoy it. I thought people kill in a heat of passion or because a drug deal gone wrong or whatever. But now I feel unsafe. How on earth can I trust people?

Serial killers can be charming and very friendly according to what I've read.

I am getting to the point of this thread. My question is, is it ethical or wise for somebody like me with an anxiety problem to get a gun permit? My friends and family think it would be wrong, especially with an anxiety problem.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

Why do you want a gun?

 

[Chesterton]

I'm sure your family and friends know better than anyone on here.

 

[durangodawood]

I have this weird phobia. In my mind, everyone is a potential serial killer. I actually did not know people kill just for fun. But then I watched a documentary on serial killers and they enjoy it. I thought people kill in a heat of passion or because a drug deal gone wrong or whatever. But now I feel unsafe. How on earth can I trust people?

Serial killers can be charming and very friendly according to what I've read.

I am getting to the point of this thread. My question is, is it ethical or wise for somebody like me with an anxiety problem to get a gun permit? My friends and family think it would be wrong, especially with an anxiety problem.

You have witnessed the power of the contemporary media diet! Go watch a bunch of heartwarming feel good movies that affirm our basic human goodness - if you can find some.

(I'm charming and friendly, just so you know.)

 

[pgp_protector]

" My question is, is it ethical or wise for somebody like me with an anxiety problem to get a gun permit? "

To be blunt.
NO.

 

[Tinker Grey]

According to this link, there have been, on average, 45 serial killers active each year in this decade in the US. (If I'm reading this right. The data isn't presented as clearly as it might be.)

With a population of 320 million people in the USA, the odds of meeting one is about 1/7.1 million. I should imagine that the odds of one's being that serial killer's type is much less.

I'd say that giving a person with an anxiety disorder a gun when the risk of what they fear is miniscule creates a much larger risk.

 

[Jonathan Jarvis]

Why do you want a gun?

Dispatching vermin

Hunting game

Target shooting

Self defence

Culling politicians who lie to the electorate (optional)

 

[Armoured]

I have this weird phobia. In my mind, everyone is a potential serial killer. I actually did not know people kill just for fun. But then I watched a documentary on serial killers and they enjoy it. I thought people kill in a heat of passion or because a drug deal gone wrong or whatever. But now I feel unsafe. How on earth can I trust people?

Serial killers can be charming and very friendly according to what I've read.

I am getting to the point of this thread. My question is, is it ethical or wise for somebody like me with an anxiety problem to get a gun permit? My friends and family think it would be wrong, especially with an anxiety problem.

The fact is you're a lot more likely to be killed by a gun you own during an accident. There ARE serial killers out there, and they ARE a scary phenomenon. They're also pretty rare. If you're happy to accept the risk you take every time you drive anywhere, you should be reasonably comfortable going about your daily business with the much smaller risk of becoming a serial killer's victim.

I'd also respectfully suggest YOU are a lot more likely to kill someone by accident or after misidentifying them as a serial killer, than you are to ever need to defend yourself against a serial killer.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Dispatching vermin

Hunting game

Target shooting

Self defence

Culling politicians who lie to the electorate (optional)

Or managing your business, (sign over office door),

"We Shoot Every Third Salesman.
The Second One Just Left."

 

[durangodawood]

...Culling politicians who lie to the electorate (optional)

You preparing a string of assassinations?

 

[Locutus]

I have this weird phobia. In my mind, everyone is a potential serial killer. I actually did not know people kill just for fun. But then I watched a documentary on serial killers and they enjoy it. I thought people kill in a heat of passion or because a drug deal gone wrong or whatever. But now I feel unsafe. How on earth can I trust people?

Serial killers can be charming and very friendly according to what I've read.

I am getting to the point of this thread. My question is, is it ethical or wise for somebody like me with an anxiety problem to get a gun permit? My friends and family think it would be wrong, especially with an anxiety problem.

I cannot imagine how, if you're a Christian, you could justify owning a deadly weapon. Under any circumstances other than all out war. Even then, most people don't own guns. Not outside of American, anyway.

I recommend you do some reading/research on just HOW odd American is in regard to guns. It really is an aberration.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I have this weird phobia. In my mind, everyone is a potential serial killer. I actually did not know people kill just for fun. But then I watched a documentary on serial killers and they enjoy it. I thought people kill in a heat of passion or because a drug deal gone wrong or whatever. But now I feel unsafe. How on earth can I trust people?

Serial killers can be charming and very friendly according to what I've read.

I am getting to the point of this thread. My question is, is it ethical or wise for somebody like me with an anxiety problem to get a gun permit? My friends and family think it would be wrong, especially with an anxiety problem.

Pepper spray is a lot better of a weapon to protect yourself, there is a lot less chance that you will hurt yourself with it. As a Christian God sends His angles to watch over and protect us. So we need to learn how to work with them.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I cannot imagine how, if you're a Christian, you could justify owning a deadly weapon. Under any circumstances other than all out war. Even then, most people don't own guns. Not outside of American, anyway.

There's lots of private gun ownership around the world.

 

[MerlinJ]

This is definitely not something you need to worry about. Psychopathy is quite rare, and serial killers are even rarer. According to the FBI, they're responsible for less than 1% of annual murders.

https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder/serial-murder-1#one

You said you have anxiety problems. Try focusing on something else for a while. We sometimes lose perspective and work ourselves up over nothing. If it doesn't pass in a couple of weeks, maybe you could consider speaking to a doctor. Like I said though, there's no reason for concern.

 

[durangodawood]

Thats great news!
Youre 100 X more likely to get murdered by a one off angry mean guy than charming and friendly serial killer.

 

[MerlinJ]

Thats great news!
Youre 100 X more likely to get murdered by a one off angry mean guy than charming and friendly serial killer.

He didn't seem concerned about regular murder, so I figured pointing out that serial murder is much less likely would be reassuring. For me its about perspective. We tend to fret over the horrific (and unlikely) events while dismissing the more mundane yet equally dangerous sort, like car crashes.

 

[roamer_1]

I am getting to the point of this thread. My question is, is it ethical or wise for somebody like me with an anxiety problem to get a gun permit? My friends and family think it would be wrong, especially with an anxiety problem.

Hi everyone! I didn't expect to dive into this forum on this question, but here goes:

I live in NW Montana, and around here guns are just part of the furniture. I don't know how folks get along without one, and I've actually got way more than one - ranging from pistols, carbines, and shotguns, to high powered rifles... Add a big dog, and I am not really anxious about protection. It just isn't a consideration, because it comes with the confidence of self reliance.

Here guns are nothing more than a tool anyway - Just part of natural life. Farm, ranch, or forest, there is always a need, either to protect, or to hunt, or to put something out of it's misery. There's always a pistol and a carbine in the truck, and usually on me or on the horse if I'm out in the sticks. There's a .45 by my bed, and a sawed-off 12 gauge over the door. So for me, your question is almost a foreign language.

Of course you should own a gun. Especially if you are anxious about your safety. My recommendation would be to go find a nearby gun range and become educated and acclimatized before your purchase, assuming you are starting from a point of ignorance... Most gun folks will be happy to help you learn, and figure out what you need. And then practice. Often, and more often. It'll do more harm than good if y'all don't know how to use it.

I think you'll find that with a little bit of knowledge, this won't be a scary thing at all, and you'll be far more confident in your ability to protect yourself without having to rely on others.

And in that same vein, pick up a self defense class - Taekwondo, or jujitsu, etc - guns are not always the solution, and you should know how to defend yourself reasonably with nothing but your hands and feet.

Why wouldn't you want to know how to defend yourself?

 

[roamer_1]

I cannot imagine how, if you're a Christian, you could justify owning a deadly weapon.

Why is that? I don't see how deadly weapons and Christianity are mutually exclusive. In the first place, guns mean eating to me - my freezer is chock-full of formerly furry woodland creatures - I don't see why hunting would be wrong...

 

[SteveB28]

Hi everyone! I didn't expect to dive into this forum on this question, but here goes:

I live in NW Montana, and around here guns are just part of the furniture. I don't know how folks get along without one, and I've actually got way more than one - ranging from pistols, carbines, and shotguns, to high powered rifles... Add a big dog, and I am not really anxious about protection. It just isn't a consideration, because it comes with the confidence of self reliance.

Here guns are nothing more than a tool anyway - Just part of natural life. Farm, ranch, or forest, there is always a need, either to protect, or to hunt, or to put something out of it's misery. There's always a pistol and a carbine in the truck, and usually on me or on the horse if I'm out in the sticks. There's a .45 by my bed, and a sawed-off 12 gauge over the door. So for me, your question is almost a foreign language.

Of course you should own a gun. Especially if you are anxious about your safety. My recommendation would be to go find a nearby gun range and become educated and acclimatized before your purchase, assuming you are starting from a point of ignorance... Most gun folks will be happy to help you learn, and figure out what you need. And then practice. Often, and more often. It'll do more harm than good if y'all don't know how to use it.

I think you'll find that with a little bit of knowledge, this won't be a scary thing at all, and you'll be far more confident in your ability to protect yourself without having to rely on others.

And in that same vein, pick up a self defense class - Taekwondo, or jujitsu, etc - guns are not always the solution, and you should know how to defend yourself reasonably with nothing but your hands and feet.

Why wouldn't you want to know how to defend yourself?

"I am not really anxious about protection"

Pistols, carbines, high powered rifles, sawed (sic) off shotguns, .45 by the bed, big dog, Taekwondo, jujitsu,......

Tell me, what would your life look like if you were anxious.......!??

 

[roamer_1]

Tell me, what would your life look like if you were anxious.......!??

I guess I don't know what you're aiming for... As I said, guns are tools here. They all serve a purpose.

As to defense, I can see how one might be anxious, being bereft of defense - Folks here aren't raised up like that. Getting lost in the timber, a bad winter, a bear or moose, a bad fall in the rocks - Preventing all of it takes a form of defense - Fighting's just another form. Usually, when you get in a fix, help is too far away, so it is best to do for yourself.