Gun Permit

[roamer_1]

So you face your fear - from behind a wall of weapons.

A WALL of weapons? LOL!

 

[durangodawood]

...You might have noticed by now, that I am redneck as the day is long, dyed in the wool... Sweet tea, jacked-up truck, Sweet Home Alabama playin', the whole 9 yards... With a dollop of hillbilly thrown in for good measure. Of course where I am from, and across a great swath of this country, that isn't a slur...

And like everyone who lives off the land, I have a great reverence for it (and I find offense in your remark). I could take you places that are so pristine, so beautiful, that they make your soul ache and your heart soar. Such places are still wild as the day YHWH made them.

But my pickup will generally only get me about 30 miles off the blacktop in any direction - after that, there isn't even a jeep trail left, and still millions and millions of acres beyond. a hot year brings fires that regularly take 250,000 acres, and you can't even tell the difference. Most folks don't have a clue how big this land is, nor how wild and formidable.

I've spent months back there, with nothing brought in but what I could put on my back. Both winter and summer. I have twice walked those deep woods across the continental divide and back. I've run many hundreds of miles on horseback, pulling a pack string. If I wasn't gimped up, I could live up there, because I have... So long I went native on more than one occasion.

But of course, to live up there, one necessarily must forego silly notions against killing poor little furry woodland creatures, because any food you could pack in is gone in 10 days to 2 weeks, at best lookout... Things get back to natural quickly as a matter of course. You must have a high protein food source, and plenty of it for the work of walking those woods.

But it is well worth it if you are game enough - there is nothing more beautiful, nothing more free, nothing closer to the Father than a high country hanging valley, deep in the Rockies, where nobody ever goes.

Sweet tea???
You need a beer in the cup holder to be redneck.
With the jacked up truck, statey will never see it.

 

[Dave-W]

You need a beer in the cup holder to be redneck.

No Baptists, Church of Christ people or Methodists are true rednecks? (no alcohol for any of them)

 

[durangodawood]

No Baptists, Church of Christ people or Methodists are true rednecks? (no alcohol for any of them)

Correct.
Close perhaps, but missing a crucial ingredient.

 

[roamer_1]

Sweet tea???
You need a beer in the cup holder to be redneck.
With the jacked up truck, statey will never see it.

I am well aware, and well experienced in my yoot. I still have a beer now and then (and when I do, PBRs, true to form), And still have a great love of tailgate parties, up in the sticks or down by the river... but I seldom tie one on anymore, even if I am at a party. With age has come wisdom.

I tend mainly to coffee, sweet tea, and lemonade, or just plain water.

And I will differ with you on this matter - Sweet Tea is always the acceptable standard for country folks - Doesn't matter who they are - Rough and ready young-bloods, or the Blue-haired Old Ladies' Committee... Sweet tea is likely to be involved... I can't remember a time in my life when I didn't drink tea.

The thing is, trying to find a cupholder that fits a Mason Jar...

 

[durangodawood]

I am well aware, and well experienced in my yoot. I still have a beer now and then (and when I do, PBRs, true to form), And still have a great love of tailgate parties, up in the sticks or down by the river... but I seldom tie one on anymore, even if I am at a party. With age has come wisdom.

I tend mainly to coffee, sweet tea, and lemonade, or just plain water.

And I will differ with you on this matter - Sweet Tea is always the acceptable standard for country folks - Doesn't matter who they are - Rough and ready young-bloods, or the Blue-haired Old Ladies' Committee... Sweet tea is likely to be involved... I can't remember a time in my life when I didn't drink tea.

The thing is, trying to find a cupholder that fits a Mason Jar...

I cant believe the big 3 truck makers have ignored the mason jar.
Maybe they should just make holders for little cappuccino cups.

 

[roamer_1]

I cant believe the big 3 truck makers have ignored the mason jar.

I know, right?

Maybe they should just make holders for little cappuccino cups.

I really don't think you can drink sweet tea from cappuccino cups. There's gotta be a law somewhere. It may even be an heresy.

Makes no difference, really - When you jump the truck down into the mud hole, there ain't gonna be anything left in the cupholders anyway.

 

[Locutus]

Perhaps to foreigners but within American culture it's not peculiar.

Well lunatics aren't crazy to lunatics. Only to those weirdos who come during visiting hours

 

[Locutus]

See, now that just doesn't make any sense at all.

Every farm or ranch I have ever been on, down the Rockies, through the Midwest, touching on the South and Desert SW are just like me. Maybe not as much toward high-powered rifles out of the mountains, because their needs rarely run past deer and boar hunting... close range, and small target stuff... but otherwise much the same.

And it is seldom that I would find a rancher or farmer that doesn't raise and butcher his own meat - I have helped to cut up cows on many an occasion. Likewise chickens and turkeys. It's just part of living, and has been since the dawn of time.

It's folks that get their meat on styrofoam trays that I find... strange (beggin' all y'all's pardon). Most of my meat comes right out of the mountains, good Lord willing, fresh and clean, just the way that the Father made them. What's left comes out of freshwater lakes and streams, by my own hand, or is local, range fed, slaughtered and packaged, right here in this valley.

I'd be hard pressed to find anyone outside of town that hasn't put a wounded animal down. Deer getting hit by cars are a frequent thing. I sure wouldn't make the critter wait for hours - Sounds awfully cruel to me. I'd just put it out of it's misery.

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Farmers who own rifles DO put animals down here. I don't. I call a vet. Also, our farmers don't usually hunt. They do source their own meat of the farm, but it's generally done for them by a local butcher. Some do their own butchering of course - but most don't. Both my husband and I were raised killing and prepping chickens. No guns involved. We don't eat meat now, so killing is a non issue. We live off the land also. We produce our own food, water, and electricity. No gun required.

 

[Locutus]

Pardon me, but then, it ain't wild.



You might have noticed by now, that I am redneck as the day is long, dyed in the wool... Sweet tea, jacked-up truck, Sweet Home Alabama playin', the whole 9 yards... With a dollop of hillbilly thrown in for good measure. Of course where I am from, and across a great swath of this country, that isn't a slur...

And like everyone who lives off the land, I have a great reverence for it (and I find offense in your remark). I could take you places that are so pristine, so beautiful, that they make your soul ache and your heart soar. Such places are still wild as the day YHWH made them.

But my pickup will generally only get me about 30 miles off the blacktop in any direction - after that, there isn't even a jeep trail left, and still millions and millions of acres beyond. a hot year brings fires that regularly take 250,000 acres, and you can't even tell the difference. Most folks don't have a clue how big this land is, nor how wild and formidable.

I've spent months back there, with nothing brought in but what I could put on my back. Both winter and summer. I have twice walked those deep woods across the continental divide and back. I've run many hundreds of miles on horseback, pulling a pack string. If I wasn't gimped up, I could live up there, because I have... So long I went native on more than one occasion.

But of course, to live up there, one necessarily must forego silly notions against killing poor little furry woodland creatures, because any food you could pack in is gone in 10 days to 2 weeks, at best lookout... Things get back to natural quickly as a matter of course. You must have a high protein food source, and plenty of it for the work of walking those woods.

But it is well worth it if you are game enough - there is nothing more beautiful, nothing more free, nothing closer to the Father than a high country hanging valley, deep in the Rockies, where nobody ever goes.

I have no clue what that would make you here. Our rednecks don't give a damn about nature - other than as a setting for the kill. Our 'alternative' types are food raising self-sufficient peaceniks - hippies, if you will. And then we have wilderness junkies - who would never take a weapon into the bush. They're environmental warrior types - usually wealthy and educated. Then extreme sport types - who like roughing it - but again, very into health and the environment.

Meantime, I LIVE in mountain forest wilderness. Have done for 20 years.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Well lunatics aren't crazy to lunatics. Only to those weirdos who come during visiting hours

I think you'll discover that the 'gun problem' in America is largely the invention of the anti's and the media. The actual facts don't support it.

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

Why do you want a gun?

Sorry it took so long to respond. I have to barrow a computer, for I do not have one.

I don't know. Maybe if people saw me with a gun, they will stay away. Which was my original thought. But I am seeing that is ridiculous now. Someone could actually shoot me if they viewed me as a threat. I just thought that it may better protect me.

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

I'm sure your family and friends know better than anyone on here.

You are probably right.

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

You have witnessed the power of the contemporary media diet! Go watch a bunch of heartwarming feel good movies that affirm our basic human goodness - if you can find some.

(I'm charming and friendly, just so you know.)

Thank you for the advice. I will try that.

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

I cannot imagine how, if you're a Christian, you could justify owning a deadly weapon. Under any circumstances other than all out war. Even then, most people don't own guns. Not outside of American, anyway.

I recommend you do some reading/research on just HOW odd American is in regard to guns. It really is an aberration.

I'll do that.

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

The fact is you're a lot more likely to be killed by a gun you own during an accident. There ARE serial killers out there, and they ARE a scary phenomenon. They're also pretty rare. If you're happy to accept the risk you take every time you drive anywhere, you should be reasonably comfortable going about your daily business with the much smaller risk of becoming a serial killer's victim.

I'd also respectfully suggest YOU are a lot more likely to kill someone by accident or after misidentifying them as a serial killer, than you are to ever need to defend yourself against a serial killer.[/QUO

OK.

The fact is you're a lot more likely to be killed by a gun you own during an accident. There ARE serial killers out there, and they ARE a scary phenomenon. They're also pretty rare. If you're happy to accept the risk you take every time you drive anywhere, you should be reasonably comfortable going about your daily business with the much smaller risk of becoming a serial killer's victim.

I'd also respectfully suggest YOU are a lot more likely to kill someone by accident or after misidentifying them as a serial killer, than you are to ever need to defend yourself against a serial killer.

I understand.

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

" My question is, is it ethical or wise for somebody like me with an anxiety problem to get a gun permit? "

To be blunt.
NO.

Thank you for your bluntly.

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

Pepper spray is a lot better of a weapon to protect yourself, there is a lot less chance that you will hurt yourself with it. As a Christian God sends His angles to watch over and protect us. So we need to learn how to work with them.

Thank you

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

This is definitely not something you need to worry about. Psychopathy is quite rare, and serial killers are even rarer. According to the FBI, they're responsible for less than 1% of annual murders.

https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder/serial-murder-1#one

You said you have anxiety problems. Try focusing on something else for a while. We sometimes lose perspective and work ourselves up over nothing. If it doesn't pass in a couple of weeks, maybe you could consider speaking to a doctor. Like I said though, there's no reason for concern.

Thanks

 

[IAMANOBODY2015]

Hi everyone! I didn't expect to dive into this forum on this question, but here goes:

I live in NW Montana, and around here guns are just part of the furniture. I don't know how folks get along without one, and I've actually got way more than one - ranging from pistols, carbines, and shotguns, to high powered rifles... Add a big dog, and I am not really anxious about protection. It just isn't a consideration, because it comes with the confidence of self reliance.

Here guns are nothing more than a tool anyway - Just part of natural life. Farm, ranch, or forest, there is always a need, either to protect, or to hunt, or to put something out of it's misery. There's always a pistol and a carbine in the truck, and usually on me or on the horse if I'm out in the sticks. There's a .45 by my bed, and a sawed-off 12 gauge over the door. So for me, your question is almost a foreign language.

Of course you should own a gun. Especially if you are anxious about your safety. My recommendation would be to go find a nearby gun range and become educated and acclimatized before your purchase, assuming you are starting from a point of ignorance... Most gun folks will be happy to help you learn, and figure out what you need. And then practice. Often, and more often. It'll do more harm than good if y'all don't know how to use it.

I think you'll find that with a little bit of knowledge, this won't be a scary thing at all, and you'll be far more confident in your ability to protect yourself without having to rely on others.

And in that same vein, pick up a self defense class - Taekwondo, or jujitsu, etc - guns are not always the solution, and you should know how to defend yourself reasonably with nothing but your hands and feet.

Why wouldn't you want to know how to defend yourself?

I will look into that.