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[stevevw]

If feelings count more than facts, you are correct.

But I don't think those feelings are totally unjustified. The average working class and welfare person is under more financial stress than before covid. In the last few years people have watched the idea of owning a home disappear and go beyond their reach.

Energy costs have risen well beyond the average increases a few years ago due to green energy costs and higher oil prices. Vehicle costs up well beyond average inflation, petrol up, health insurance up well beyond average inflation. So much so that governments have had to give additional subsidies to welfare recipients.

Some things have improved and some are stagnating or still rising beyond the average person. I think the US is a little ahead of Australia so may be improving in some areas better than we are. But I don't think we are out of the woods yeat with massive national and personal debt.

Usually people begin to feel secure and happy about finances when we are in the savings and buyers market which we have not reached yet and maybe won't for a long time.

Sad but largely true, due to the media endlessly spouting GOP talking points without question.

I don't think it's the media as most of the media like CNN, NBC US Today, ABC News ect. Whereas I think on Fox News is the only noteworthy media that supports the Right.

Anyway surveys have been done which show the majority of media including social media leans to the Left so they have more support to get their message and narratives out.

It may stem from the perception of Trump being a business man which when he first entered politics was seen as a novelty and unusual that a non career politician and someone with life experience would go into politics.

 

[Bradskii]

If the average is 2.2% and it rose to an average of 6.5% then its trippling the inflation rate. So prices will have gone up 3 times as much as it did before covid. We are talking about the cost of living not the cost of individual items.

The RATE increases by a factor of 3 but the cost of living doesn't. If inflation was 0.1% and it went up to 1% then you'd vener notice. But according to you the cost of living has increased tenfold.

Get a grip, please.

 

[BCP1928]

I meant an average of 2,2%. Some years were 2.1% and others 2.3% but an average of 2.2% compared to post covid of an average of 6.5% where some years were 6% qnd other years 7%. .

If the average is 2.2% and it rose to an average of 6.5% then its trippling the inflation rate. So prices will have gone up 3 times as much as it did before covid. We are talking about the cost of living not the cost of individual items.

Are you serious. Are you saying that priceses have not gone up disproportionally after covid compared to before. We did have inflation rates at between 7 and 9% so that proves prices went up more than normal. This is well acknowledged.

The working class is being screwed, we agree on that. What is entirely divorced from reality is your notion that it's "the left" who are doing the screwing.

 

[NxNW]

But I don't think those feelings are totally unjustified. The average working class and welfare person is under more financial stress than before covid. In the last few years people have watched the idea of owning a home disappear and go beyond their reach.

"Before covid" encompasses a period of approximately 13 billion years. I disagree about owning a home.

Energy costs have risen well beyond the average increases a few years ago due to green energy costs and higher oil prices.

Oil production by the US is higher than ever.

Vehicle costs up well beyond average inflation, petrol up, health insurance up well beyond average inflation. So much so that governments have had to give additional subsidies to welfare recipients.

Petrol? Are you in the UK? Not comparable.

Some things have improved and some are stagnating or still rising beyond the average person. I think the US is a little ahead of Australia so may be improving in some areas better than we are. But I don't think we are out of the woods yeat with massive national and personal debt.

That's awfully general.

I don't think it's the media as most of the media like CNN, NBC US Today, ABC News ect. Whereas I think on Fox News is the only noteworthy media that supports the Right.

The media loves Trump and have been attacking Biden incessantly since the debate. The NYT had seven articles on the front page each day calling for him to drop out of the race, with zero about Trump, even in light of his felony conviction.

Anyway surveys have been done which show the majority of media including social media leans to the Left so they have more support to get their message and narratives out.

See above. Trump gets more clicks, which is what they want.

There is a book called "What Liberal Media?" which counters your claim.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Liberal_Media%3F#:~:text=What%20Liberal%20Media%3F%3A%20The,not%20biased%20liberally%2C%20but%20conservatively.

It may stem from the perception of Trump being a business man which when he first entered politics was seen as a novelty and unusual that a non career politician and someone with life experience would go into politics.

A failed businessman, to be sure.

 

[Hans Blaster]

If the average is 2.2% and it rose to an average of 6.5% then its trippling the inflation rate. So prices will have gone up 3 times as much as it did before covid. We are talking about the cost of living not the cost of individual items.

That triples the rate of growth of the cost of living, it does not triple the cost of living itself. They are quite different.

 

[ralliann]

Are you kidding me?

No, I am not

Just look around: the consensus of conservative Christians in this forum is that if a person says he's trans,

See they do indeed know they exist..

he's either lying for wicked reasons or he is insane, because there is no such thing as trans.

It is a mental disorder. You just do not like how we see the trans issue..

Many of the right-winger opinionators you like are of the same opinion.

And many left wingers appear to distort Right wingers views. To the point if Of pretending we do not even know they exist, to put it in our faces...

 

[BCP1928]

No, I am not

See they do indeed know they exist..

It is a mental disorder. You just do not like how we see the trans issue..

"Disorder" implies an order, apparently one from which no deviation is allowed.

And many left wingers appear to distort Right wingers views. To the point if Of pretending we do not even know they exist, to put it in our faces...

You say they do not exist by denying it and brushing it off as a mental disorder.

 

[ralliann]

"Disorder" implies an order, apparently one from which no deviation is allowed.

It is my opinion, just as yours is yours

You say they do not exist by denying it

By denying What? A man is not a man, or a woman is not a woman? I know some people believe that. I don't...

and brushing it off as a mental disorder.

It is not a physical disorder! You are the one brushing off those who disagree with you...It appears it actually angers you at those of us with whom you disagree?

 

[stevevw]

The RATE increases by a factor of 3 but the cost of living doesn't. If inflation was 0.1% and it went up to 1% then you'd vener notice. But according to you the cost of living has increased tenfold.

Get a grip, please.

Your right a 0.1% increase at the time before Covid where inflation only went up 0.1% a year would not be noticed. For every $100,000 spend its only a $100 increase in the cost of living. But when it rises 1% then its a $1000 increase and people begin to feel the pinch.

But what we see is more than a 1% increase but a 5% to 7% increase in prices above pre covid average inflation which equates to $5,000 to $7,000 increase compared to the $100 increase due to inflation before covid.

Then it starts to hurt as thats now over a $100 increase a week and not the annual $100 increase before covid. As the article I linked said people had to find an extra $11,400 a year to live in real terms compared to before covid.

 

[stevevw]

The working class is being screwed, we agree on that. What is entirely divorced from reality is your notion that it's "the left" who are doing the screwing.

Right now its the Left who are in power and are doing the screwing.

 

[BCP1928]

Right now its the Left who are in power and are doing the screwing.

If not the right, why are red states relaxing child labor laws, eliminating water breakers for construction workers, things like that?

 

[Reasonably Sane]

If not the right, why are red states relaxing child labor laws, eliminating water breakers for construction workers, things like that?

This guy has something to say about child labor laws. It affected him big time, and not in the good way.
This video is worth every minute.

 

[Hans Blaster]

This guy has something to say about child labor laws. It affected him big time, and not in the good way.
This video is worth every minute.

Could you summarize or point to a salient short section? We're not ready to give up 50+ minutes on your say. (I started to watch it, but the point of the video was not clear very quick.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Your right a 0.1% increase at the time before Covid where inflation only went up 0.1% a year would not be noticed. For every $100,000 spend its only a $100 increase in the cost of living. But when it rises 1% then its a $1000 increase and people begin to feel the pinch.

But what we see is more than a 1% increase but a 5% to 7% increase in prices above pre covid average inflation which equates to $5,000 to $7,000 increase compared to the $100 increase due to inflation before covid.

Then it starts to hurt as thats now over a $100 increase a week and not the annual $100 increase before covid. As the article I linked said people had to find an extra $11,400 a year to live in real terms compared to before covid.

Anyone with a $100,000 annual spending habit complaining about rising costs can just shut up.

 

[SimplyMe]

It is my opinion, just as yours is yours

By denying What? A man is not a man, or a woman is not a woman? I know some people believe that. I don't...

It is not a physical disorder! You are the one brushing off those who disagree with you...It appears it actually angers you at those of us with whom you disagree?

Actually, the scientific evidence shows that it is actually a physical disorder, with the best evidence suggesting that in many cases it is an actual birth defect (and, no, I am not taking about intersex). The issue is that many without knowledge of the condition, since it doesn't show externally, have decided that it is "imaginary" or a "mental disorder" because it doesn't line up with the morals; and so they talk about it, pretending to be an expert, based on their moral beliefs.

The real issue is, first, trying to diagnose the issue -- there are some with mental disorders where it manifests as if they are transsexual -- and we don't have a good test to tell them apart (which is why the mental health field is involved, to attempt to diagnose if it is actual transsexualism or some other mental illness. The other major issue is in the best way to treat the disease -- and currently that appears to be to allow the transsexual to "transition" towards the other gender -- and the idea when I got out of the field was to only have them "transition" to the point they could live in a way they are at peace with themselves (surgery was the "last option"). I find much of the politicking by both sides to be harmful to the vast majority living with the condition.

 

[BPPLEE]

Could you summarize or point to a salient short section? We're not ready to give up 50+ minutes on your say. (I started to watch it, but the point of the video was not clear very quick.

It’s not nearly that long

 

[stevevw]

If not the right, why are red states relaxing child labor laws, eliminating water breakers for construction workers, things like that?

I don't know these new changes to laws. But I am sure there is some misrepresentation of what is really going on. Why would any person in advanced western nations start up child labor again.

But even if they are up to something bad and I am not saying the Right don't do bad stuff, both sides do saying that the opposition are doing bad stuff doesn't negate the fact that the Left are doing bad stuff.

Both sides are more or less the same. Both have lost their original basis for who they are as a party and its now all about power, staying in power and not what is in the best interest of all.

PS I just looked up this new child labor law and it seems there has been a record number of violations in New York. But isn't that a Left State, the one that went after Trump.

Republicans continue effort to erode US child labor rules despite teen deaths

Violations have soared but legislative efforts to strengthen protection for young workers have received little support

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bradskii]

Your right...

Good to know that you understand economics a little better.

 

[BCP1928]

I don't know these new changes to laws. But I am sure there is some misrepresentation of what is really going on. Why would any person in advanced western nations start up child labor again.

Because here it is considered the Christian thing to do.

But even if they are up to something bad and I am not saying the Right don't do bad stuff, both sides do saying that the opposition are doing bad stuff doesn't negate the fact that the Left are doing bad stuff.

Both sides are more or less the same. Both have lost their original basis for who they are as a party and its now all about power, staying in power and not what is in the best interest of all.

PS I just looked up this new child labor law and it seems there has been a record number of violations in New York. But isn't that a Left State, the one that went after Trump.

More states have strengthened child labor laws than weakened them in 2024: This year, state advocates were better equipped to organize in opposition to harmful bills

Click here for the latest version of our 50-state maps showing the status of legislation to roll back or strengthen child labor protections. Early this year, we detailed the continued state legislative attacks on child labor protections as well as bills to strengthen child labor standards...

www.epi.org

Child labor laws are under attack in states across the country: Amid increasing child labor violations, lawmakers must act to strengthen standards

What this report finds: States across the country are attempting to weaken child labor protections, just as violations of these standards are rising. This report identifies bills weakening child labor standards in eight states that have been introduced or passed in the past two years alone. It...

www.epi.org

 

[Hans Blaster]

It’s not nearly that long

It is 54 minutes and 51 seconds long according to the counter at the bottom of the YouTube video (0:02/54:51).