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[BCP1928]

Thats the way the system is designed to allow those with power to maintain power. To feather the nests of some and not others.

And the corporate interests that are screwing you over are feathering their nests just fine, and have convinced you to blame the Woke Monster.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Lol I don't really think a Democrate analysis is gonna find it. Thats the problem with much of this analysis it can be viewed in more than one way.

I think the best way to determine economic health is by asking people themselves. The reasons why people percieve that the economy may not be doing so well is different to how analysists produce data. Its how they are coping financially.

It seems most people believe its harder to make ends meet today thanks mainly to inflations effect on the cost of living.

I still don't know where they got these numbers, but I don't trust the honesty of Mike Lee.

 

[SimplyMe]

I still don't know where they got these numbers, but I don't trust the honesty of Mike Lee.

I don't believe a lot of the Republicans in Utah trust Mike Lee. It may be interesting to see what happens with him in four years, though a lot will happen in between. I'm guessing he'll have a Republican challenger in 2028.

 

[Reasonably Sane]

I like Walter Williams and also Thomas Sowell who appeared in the video. Williams makes sense but I think this idea of Blacks being treated like property can be applied to everyone except perhaps the well off who don't have to worry or be subject to the system the State welfare and poverty trap that many find themselves in regardless of colour.

Child labour is obviously wrong but its hypocritical of any government to complain as the entire system is designed to subject people to slaving away to just live. Making profits above people is the incentive for business and big corps to cut corners and compromise to increase profits. Which includes finding ways to cut labour costs one way or another.

I retired about three years ago. My retirement plan was not to have a lot of money, but to have a low cost of living. I succeeded in spades. My monthly cost of living is roughly $1500 a month, which allows us to save thousands every month, if we want to.

The interesting thing is that back in the day, it was a really big deal when big appliance failed. I'd try to fix an old dryer to eek another couple of years out of it. Now, we just go to the local store and buy one, and don't even think about it. And yes, I now read menus from left to right, rather than right to left. It's all just weird.

Thing is, it is so cheap for us to live, even though we have our own fully paid for 32 acre garden of eden, that I "feel" rich. But that is part of what Christ taught. I know he'll supply. However, I now see the world completely differently than when I was one of the "rats" in the rat race. It is so freeing it's hard to articulate.

 

[Pommer]

And the corporate interests that are screwing you over are feathering their nests just fine, and have convinced you to blame the Woke Monster.

Classic “let’s you and him fight” gamesmanship.

 

[ralliann]

The structure of the brain itself. There have been a few lines of research but to highlight a couple: there have been hormonal tests of fetuses while in the womb and autopsies of people who identified as transsexual. Forgive me for not providing links but I've done this too many times; to be honest I should have made a cut and paste about this years ago (and I just don't care to do it now).

I'll start with the autopsies, it was found that people that identified as transsexual had brains that were structured like that of the gender they claimed to be. Once a few studies were conducted, one of the criticisms was that the transsexuals might have had some amount of change of brain structure by taking hormones. At that point, further autopsies were done that accounted for hormones, and it was found that even without any real treatment, such as hormones, these transsexuals still had brain structure consistent with the gender they claimed (male body with female brain or female body with a male brain structure).

As for hormones, studies were done on mice (the one I'm most familiar with) where they were dosed with the opposite gender hormones to their DNA at a key point in development. When they did this, the mice acted "transsexual" -- where male mice behaved as if they were female and females behaved as if they were male. Obviously no human trials have been done, though in the 50s (and even into the early 60s) women were sometimes given hormones to prevent them from miscarrying. There was a bit of research done on male children that found an abnormally high number that identified as transsexual -- but it was a rather small study due to difficulty in finding the children, 40+ years later.

Last, a couple of interesting new lines of study. Studies of areas polluted by estrogenic chemicals (such as runoff of fertilizer and pesticides into watersheds) show abnormally high level of "transgender" behavior from the animals in those areas. In fact, there are some new lines of research that appear to show that it is happening in humans, as well, though a lot more work is needed there. Additionally, there have been studies into the human genome that suggest there are alleles inside the genome that may account for homosexuality and transsexuality, though a lot of work still needs to be done here.




You can't easily diagnose it because of the issue of trying to view the structure of the brain. We can tell with an autopsy but that isn't a good diagnostic method for living people.

Abnormalities in the brain, affect one mentally.

 

[stevevw]

And the corporate interests that are screwing you over are feathering their nests just fine, and have convinced you to blame the Woke Monster.

Woke is different to using power to stay in government. Governments using their position to stay in power has been going on for decades. Woke or PC in its current form has only been around for the last 10 or 15 years.

Ones got to do with identity politics which is about race, sex, gender and other group identities and the other is about capitalism and materialism. Though I guess if you look at it through the prism of class then it could relate to identity and take on the Marxist idea that the Woke are applying to culture now with race, sex and gender.

 

[stevevw]

Exactly. And the real culprits get away as usual.

Who are the culprits though. We all buy into the same system of consumer capitalism. Any society that puts profits before people and make money their god is bound to fail eventually.

 

[stevevw]

I still don't know where they got these numbers, but I don't trust the honesty of Mike Lee.

But you cannot deny the fact that over the last few years the cost of living has increased dramatically and people are feeling the squeeze. Thats what most are worried about. How to make ends meet. That is the biggest issue most voters are concerned about.

 

[stevevw]

I retired about three years ago. My retirement plan was not to have a lot of money, but to have a low cost of living. I succeeded in spades. My monthly cost of living is roughly $1500 a month, which allows us to save thousands every month, if we want to.

The interesting thing is that back in the day, it was a really big deal when big appliance failed. I'd try to fix an old dryer to eek another couple of years out of it. Now, we just go to the local store and buy one, and don't even think about it. And yes, I now read menus from left to right, rather than right to left. It's all just weird.

Thing is, it is so cheap for us to live, even though we have our own fully paid for 32 acre garden of eden, that I "feel" rich. But that is part of what Christ taught. I know he'll supply. However, I now see the world completely differently than when I was one of the "rats" in the rat race. It is so freeing it's hard to articulate.

Ther problem is in such an economy is that for every person who feels they have succeeded theres two who haven't. Young people now face the prospect of never owning a home as its completely out of reach. The fact is under such a system we have created a class society where some have and many have little and the welfare State keeps getting bigger.

 

[expos4ever]

Personal experience is more relevant to them than people spouting statistics and telling them they are doing better

What do you mean by "more relevant"? If you mean that people tend to evaluate the state of the economy based on their own personal experience then such people are engaged in clearly faulty thinking.

Statistical characterizations of the economy as a whole are obviously a more accurate yardstick.

 

[BPPLEE]

What do you mean by "more relevant"? If you mean that people tend to evaluate the state of the economy based on their own personal experience then such people are engaged in clearly faulty thinking.

Statistical characterizations of the economy as a whole are obviously a more accurate yardstick.

A large section of the population is not doing as well as the statistics would indicate. Poll numbers have confirmed this.
You can show people statistics and tell them how well things are going but for a lot of people their situation is not better and I predict that many of them are going to cast their votes hoping to improve their circumstances
You’re basically telling them they are engaging in faulty thinking for acknowledging what is reality to them.

 

[Hans Blaster]

But you cannot deny the fact that over the last few years the cost of living has increased dramatically and people are feeling the squeeze. Thats what most are worried about. How to make ends meet. That is the biggest issue most voters are concerned about.

Didn't say it didn't go up. I just find these number "off".

 

[SimplyMe]

Abnormalities in the brain, affect one mentally.

So is it males that are abnormal, or females? Which gender has "abnormalities" in their brains that affect them mentally? That may not be what you intended to argue but that is what is clearly implied.

Transsexuals do not have "abnormalities" in their brains -- their brains are normal human brains. They just tend to have a structure similar to brains of the opposite gender -- those brains are only abnormal is you are claiming the brains of that gender are abnormal.

 

[BCP1928]

Who are the culprits though. We all buy into the same system of consumer capitalism. Any society that puts profits before people and make money their god is bound to fail eventually.

Let me put it more simply:

1. Here in the US, food prices are rising faster than inflation. I mean grocery store food, the kind we all depend on.

2. The food in the grocery store, all of it, is produced by ten multinational corporations.

3. These corporations have been making record profits.

So how did the woke monster cause all that? How are you going to blame it on "The Left?"

 

[ralliann]

So is it males that are abnormal, or females? Which gender has "abnormalities" in their brains that affect them mentally?

It was you who said their brains were different????

That may not be what you intended to argue but that is what is clearly implied.

It was you who said it....

Transsexuals do not have "abnormalities" in their brains -- their brains are normal human brains.

So there is nothing going on with their brains?

They just tend to have a structure similar to brains of the opposite gender -- those brains are only abnormal is you are claiming the brains of that gender are abnormal.

You spoke of their brain structure....not me.....

 

[SimplyMe]

It was you who said their brains were different????

What I stated is they were different only in that they were structured similar to the gender they claim to be. Don't go trying to misrepresent what I stated just because you misunderstood and now want to twist what was actually stated.

It was you who said it....

So their is nothing going on with their brains?

You spoke of their brain structure....not me.....

Again, that their structure is like the brain of the gender they claim to be -- that doesn't make it "abnormal," nor did I say it did.

Yes, I spoke of their brain structure but nothing about it being abnormal or defective, just structured like the brains of the gender they claim to be. You are the one trying to push the idea that they must be abnormal or prone to mental illness -- so I have to ask if you believe it is male of female brains that are abnormal and prone to mental illness?

 

[Bradskii]

I think the best way to determine economic health is by asking people themselves.

Why are you posting this stuff? The economy is not based on what people might think. It's based on hard data. Which you have recently been making up. So maybe you think the economy is bad because you don't understand it.

 

[ralliann]

What I stated is they were different only in that they were structured similar to the gender they claim to be. Don't go trying to misrepresent what I stated just because you misunderstood and now want to twist what was actually stated.

Their brains are different....Abnormal....

Again, that their structure is like the brain of the gender they claim to be -- that doesn't make it "abnormal," nor did I say it did.

Yes it does. Normal is for the brain structure to agree with the sexuality of the physical body

Yes, I spoke of their brain structure but nothing about it being abnormal or defective, just structured like the brains of the gender they claim to be.

You spoke of their brains as being not the norm.....

You are the one trying to push the idea that they must be abnormal or prone to mental illness -- so I have to ask if you believe it is male of female brains that are abnormal and prone to mental illness?

Brain studies are also done with schizophrenia etc,.
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"Neurobiology of Schizophrenia: A Comprehensive Review​

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[stevevw]

Why are you posting this stuff? The economy is not based on what people might think. It's based on hard data. Which you have recently been making up. So maybe you think the economy is bad because you don't understand it.

Who really understands the economy. Who says the so called experts are right in the first place. Look at what has happened in recent decades with ideas like capitalism, onsumerism and neoliberalism and the insatiable thirst for constant high economic growth. What we see is a growing poor class and a smaller rich class where power is corrpupted by money. The haves and have nots.

Like I said any society that puts profits before people is bad economics overall. It may be good for some, or share holders or those who may be in a position to take advantage but that is not the case for a growing number of people. Basically they just don't trust the so called experts based on past experience.

When I said that the most important factor about the economy is what the voters think and believe I meant that is what people use to vote governments in and out regardless of what the economic experts say. Thats because theres a disconnect between numbers and people.

It doesn't always equate to data but how people experience the economy and this involves a number of influences some which are not based on the current status of the economy.

The fact is despite what any expert says people don't believe them when they distrust the very same experts who made the mess in the first place. The only thing that counts at the end of the day is what the voters think as far as whether those experts will get another chance to prove themselves or whether its time to try something different.