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Exactly, even if there was no God with intelligence and abilities greater then mankind, we would still have to invent one. Hope can be a powerful force and hopelessness can lead to despair.Frighteningly disappointing and boring if true.
But isn't it a strange kind of hope, hoping your existence will not end forever, while we see all our fellow mammals dying terminally.Exactly, even if there was no God with intelligence and abilities greater then mankind, we would still have to invent one. Hope can be a powerful force and hopelessness can lead to despair.
It was a curse of some sorts. But no indication of how fast this change was.Why would it have to be in one event??
I never thought about that, but perhaps that is something that makes us different then the animals.But isn't it a strange kind of hope, hoping your existence will not end forever, while we see all our fellow mammals dying terminally.
Even when life is horrible, people don't want to stop it, but cling to some hope for a solution.
Actually that would be the question a child may ask:I never thought about that, but perhaps that is something that makes us different then the animals.
If people have a choice then perhaps they base their choice on what they find the most comfort with. For some it is a comfort that they will see their loved ones again. For others perhaps it is a comfort when they die that is the end of it and they no longer exist.It seems this is where people divide in 2 views:
1 - Physical death is the terminal end of your existence.
2 - There will be something to consciously experience after physical death.
Because it would explain how Mohammed rode a winged horse up to heaven, if you can't explain it then it must have happened, and while we're at it how do you explain Jesus walking on water? you can't can you?Why would science need to explain mythical creatures?
I was hoping more for super intelligent antelopes from the Andromeda galaxy.Exactly, even if there was no God with intelligence and abilities greater then mankind, we would still have to invent one. Hope can be a powerful force and hopelessness can lead to despair.
Where do you think all the Gods throughout the world came from in the first place? man invented them to protect themselves from the forces of nature.Exactly, even if there was no God with intelligence and abilities greater then mankind, we would still have to invent one..
I don't view it as strange; we understand death is inevitable, and have the capacity to imagine a way out. So, why wouldn't we? Pretty much why we come up with myths and legends that "explain" the world is to alleviate fear and despairBut isn't it a strange kind of hope, hoping your existence will not end forever, while we see all our fellow mammals dying terminally.
Even when life is horrible, people don't want to stop it, but cling to some hope for a solution.
I would argue that reincarnation doesn't fully belong to either category, because some component of your being continues to exist, but a key part of what makes you who you are, your memories, do not.Actually that would be the question a child may ask:
"What happens when you die?"
And wondering about the purpose of it all, when grandma dies..
It seems this is where people divide in 2 views:
1 - Physical death is the terminal end of your existence.
2 - There will be something to consciously experience after physical death.
Yes but how does a sane person make themselves believe something they know is not true? what damage must we do to our brains to get ourselves to believe something like that? people would end up talking to themselves, wait.....we understand death is inevitable, and have the capacity to imagine a way out.
They don't. Much like the theist that states "all atheists secretly believe", you are wrong in assuming that somewhere, deep down, no one believes. They don't feel as if the afterlife is impossible or even unlikely.Yes but how does a sane person make themselves believe something they know is not true?
You act as if atheism can't have negative effects on some people psychologically. How many atheists do you know that go through a nihilist phase compared to theist, because to me, it seems slightly unbalanced. Not that every atheist has that problem, but I see it in a lot more atheists than theists.what damage must we do to our brains to get ourselves to believe something like that? people would end up talking to themselves, wait.....
I know they have convinced themselves that they believe that's obvious, however it's difficult for someone who knows anything to get their head around a fairy tale like life after death, they obviously do not know what death is and what it does to our bodies, we are animals just like all the other animals and I guess believers wouldn't say every animal was going to have an after life would they? wishful think is all it is.They don't. Much like the theist that states "all atheists secretly believe", you are wrong in assuming that somewhere, deep down, no one believes. They don't feel as if the afterlife is impossible or even unlikely.
I want to live forever, can I say it more clearly than that? it's why there are and have been so many gods created over the years, but just because I want something means absolutely nothing to reality and real life, I can want until the cows come home and it will get me no where, death is the end for all things that live.You act as if atheism can't have negative effects on some people psychologically. How many atheists do you know that go through a nihilist phase compared to theist, because to me, it seems slightly unbalanced. Not that every atheist has that problem, but I see it in a lot more atheists than theists.
I don't think one has to force oneself to be convinced that there is an afterlife. In fact, I would go as far as to say we have a natural inclination towards thinking that. I mean, gosh darn it, I used to believe in an afterlife because of watching the show Ghosthunters. Freaking Ghosthunters! I wish I was joking, but I'm not. What a sorry reason for a 14 year old to believe in life after death, yeesh. But, at the time, I didn't consider the possibility that it was all an act, these adults running scared from noises in the night, heck, in a few episodes, their clothes are grabbed on camera and you see them dragged a bit. It might have made it more convincing that a lot of episodes had "no paranormal activity", and they would explain away the noises as being produced by objects in the building, and very few had tons of it. Regardless, a pretty silly reason to believe in ghosts.I know they have convinced themselves that they believe that's obvious,
It's technically not impossible that there is life after death, though I highly doubt that any religion reflects the reality if there is one. Personally, I think that even if there is one, the "physical us" has no part in it, and it is more of some ephemeral imprint left behind that eventually fades away, like some spiritual residue we leave behind wherever we go even while alive that tends to accumulate in places we spend a lot of time in or get highly emotional about.however it's difficult for someone who knows anything to get their head around a fairy tale like life after death,
I have only encountered 1 person, theist or atheist, ever in my life that thought the afterlife was tied to our physical bodies and the atoms that once were us. Which I found to be ridiculous and countered completely. Other than that person, everyone on here gets that our bodies rot. For those that believe in an afterlife, who we are is not entirely tied to our physical bodies, so it doesn't matter.they obviously do not know what death is and what it does to our bodies,
Actually, that's a point of contention. For example, the person with the username of "dad" believes that all living things have an afterlife when they die. However, AV1611 believes only humans do, if I recall correctly. Both of these men are YECs. I think even the more moderate theists aren't in agreement on the matter.we are animals just like all the other animals and I guess believers wouldn't say every animal was going to have an after life would they?
I really don't want to live forever, I just view it as preferable to the relatively short human lifespan. I mean, it would really suck to outlive the universe itself and just be kinda floating in nothingness for all of eternity. In fact, the lack of stimulation would drive a person insane pretty quickly. I can think of no worse hell than that. I want everything to keep going. Unlike some people, that contend that eventually, a person would do all there is to do (given enough time), I don't think it is actually possible to run out of things to do in a literal sense. If you read every book, write a new one. If you become a master of every game, invent one. That, and with others to interact with for all of eternity, I don't think I would get bored. The despair I feel isn't just for my own end, but that everything will end with enough time. The earth, all the planets and stars in the universe, and perhaps even the universe itself, will eventually be gone. You see, I am not only burdened by a mind that cannot handle death or find belief to help manage it, but I am also prone to looking ahead. Very, very, very far ahead, to the final countdown of recognizable existence. Knowing that I can do nothing about it gives me no sense of acceptance or peace, but a feeling of powerlessness and hopelessness that grows the longer I think about it.wishful think is all it is.I want to live forever, can I say it more clearly than that?
I think those were created more to explain a world that, at the time, had processes without explanation that the people at the time lacked the tools to properly investigate. Our species doesn't like unknowns, in case you haven't noticed.it's why there are and have been so many gods created over the years, but just because I want something means absolutely nothing to reality and real life
Unless you are one of those jellyfish that just revert back to a younger state when they get old. Gosh, jealous of a squishy, brainless creature; I think I may be nearing the "rock bottom" of my life. Obviously, I know that even those jellyfish will eventually die one way or another, but I often find myself wondering if I am happy that I was born human, or if I would have been better off being something like a tortoise. That is, not smart enough to have an existential crisis.I can want until the cows come home and it will get me no where, death is the end for all things that live.
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