GT Loved Ones, Help.

[fwiwwl]

I am waitin for that man from Texas. I hear em coming!

 

[AndItWasGood]

You should rejoice that your son is dating a girl who is a member of the One True Church founded by Jesus Christ. Pray that your son will follow suit.

 

[mont974x4]

talk to him

he's gotta man up and lead if they're in a real relationship

 

[Rhamiel]

AndItWasGood, you are not really helping anybody, you are just going to make other Christians think less of catholics then they already do

 

[Rowan]

I am sorry I am not being more positive, but I am tired and I really did not expect to see a thread like this from Sunlover...

Yeah...completely caught me off guard.

<----confuzzled.

 

[sunlover1]

Hi, Sonlover


I don't all the particulars, but in this age,
glory to God that she is a Christian !
How many don't even know of Christ, or deny Him.

Of course you should speak to your pastor
we can use extra prayer and guidance in all things.

Praise God for every blessing and burden

God bless you Thekla for not reading
between the lines.

And I agree, praise God if she's Christian,
Heck, who knows just because someone
goes to ANY church, that they love the Lord.

So that's great point.


I know that there are a few here who
are in this type of marriage, and seem
content with it. And I"m glad that my
kids are not predjudice, but I cant help
but see the problems that could arise.
(maybe because of so much argument
we see here at CF)
I was just curious to see how others
felt, if I was being overprotective,
or if this is a serious issue.

Love you,
sunlover

 

[Rowan]

IAnd I"m glad that my
kids are not predjudice, but I cant help
but see the problems that could arise.
(maybe because of so much argument
we see here at CF)

My offline life is waay smoother than my online one. That's why I spend more of my time there.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Prior to me meeting and marrying my husband, I dated a Catholic very seriously. We talked about marriage, and I started counseling classes for my annulment, against my better judgment.

We were pretty serious. I was so torn, and my parents really didn't like it at all. Chris was a nice enough guy, but he was always trying to get me to become Catholic. The two times he came to church with me, we spent hours afterwards arguing about the content of the service, communion, etc. It finally came to a head where I realized I could not spend my life with this man, unequally yoked. And we were. We did not believe the same things. He believed me to be arrogant because I was confident of my salvation. I couldn't believe that he wasn't confident. He constantly belittled my church and told me that he didn't think he could ever say enough prayers to get me out of purgatory someday because of what church I belonged to.

When it was all said and over, my dad sat me down and explained to me all the different reasons he hadn't wanted me to date a Catholic, and he was absolutely right. In the end, I got my heart broken. My dad wished he had had the talk with me before, but I told him I wouldn't have listened, because I thought I knew what I was getting into. As it turned out, I didn't. Even after we broke up, heck, even after I starting dating my husband, Chris would call me and leave text messages and tell me how he needed me to become Catholic. He needed to know that my soul was safe...I considered taking a restraining order out on him because he would call twenty, sometimes fifty times a day.

This isn't about whether Catholics are better or Protestants. This is about understanding the dichotomy that truly exists between the two, and how that plays into a relationship. Shame on you who have found fault in Sunlover asking an honest question. Put yourself in her shoes. God forbid your child ever comes home and wants to date or marry a heretic...I'm sure your reactions wouldn't be as restrained as hers have been.

Praying for you, sunlover. I know this is difficult.

 

[sunlover1]

how come I feel we would not be having this conversation if she went to a methodist church?
yes just because you go to a church on sunday does not mean you live your life, but it seems people just assumes if you are Catholic you are probably not a good christian.

No Rhamiel, I dont assume that.
One of my closest friends is Catholic,
and is much more Christlike than I could
hope to be. And I have many protestant
friends who more resemble unbelievers.

Sun It is not something I would be gung ho about but I would not question if it is a case of being "unequally yoked" there are problems when when people from two differant faith traditions get together but since they are both christian it is not that big of a gulf

Thank you, and that's good insight from
someone who's never had kids yet.
Most single pple cant even begin to
relate.

I am tired and I really did not expect to see a thread like this from Sunlover, you have always treated me like a fellow christian, or were you just being polite?

You know that I consider you to have a pure heart.
Your love for God is obvious.
I wouldnt be polite if it involved dishonesty.

(I assume that Catholics would feel this same
way about their son/daughter dating a prot)

I mean, have ya SEEN the threads in GT?
Almost each thread is evangelicals arguing
with RC and EO over what they believe.
I love you like mad, but we dont see eye
to eye Rhamiel.
Man, can you imagine having that for
family dinner?... till death do us part.

 

[Thekla]

Man, can you imagine having that for
family dinner?... till death do us part.

you need to hang out with more "Mediterraneans" -- our Thanksgiving get-togethers were ... loud... with emphatic genuine disagreement (in my family, we get upset'n adamant about ideas, not people - if that makes sense). And love each other dearly, and can't wait to see each other again. Don't be afraid of "noise"

 

[sunlover1]

However, until he trusts Jesus as his savior, there will always be an aspect of our relationship that's missing.

And cant you just imagine what it would be like to
have a husband and wife spiritual team!
Both lifting each other up to God in prayer,
Worshipping together, the kids seeing that...
OH WOW!
Naturally we all want the VERY best for our kids.

I'll pray for you and please feel free to PM me if you like.

And I for you as well !!

Your concerns are valid, but I think you have to be careful not to alienate your son in the process.

Exactly what I wish to avoid. HE left for Calif today
for a week or two, so that gives me some time
to pray and seek counsel..

I hope others here will consider this issue as well,
as it could happen to any of us. How do we really feel,
what's really important, What attitude would please God
Etc.

Thank you so much WC,
and I will take that to heart.

 

[sunlover1]

I think it is a very serious issue, considering your son is likely born again and heeds God's word at its face value i'd make sure he understands that the views on justification differ greatly and both can't be right,

He doesnt know much about the differences, no.
And I want to add that I've always taught my kids
to think for themselves. I'd never push my views on
them because they're just that, my 'views'.
I do want them to have the opportunity to find their
own truths about God and religion and not just be
little sunlover clones. (did that make sense?)

It's something I would recommend out of principal that he speak with her early on

Hope he sees the importance of having some
common Spritual beliefs.

Sunlover:

First, for the levity to make you feel a bit better.

Call the Pope. As soon as he finds out that one of his flock would dare sully themselves by stooping to date a protestant, he'll dispatch the black choppers to pick her up.

Hey, I hadnt thought about that!!

Yeah, though, wonder how HER parents feel.
I was raised catholic, and I wasnt even allowed
to go to the neighborhood VBS programs.

It will work out. God allows many things in our lives, and if a relationship between a Catholic and a Protestant is within his will, it's no problem. It's harder for US to accept differences, that it is for God, IMO. God couldn't care less about your denomination

TY for the encouragement.

 

[sunlover1]

I am praying for you and for your son.
To me, the bigger issue is that he did something that he knows you would not approve of behind your back without telling you. I know he is an adult, but I still see a problem with the way he went about it.

yeah, sort of.
one of those guys who's very focused, dependable,
the sort every business man tries to hire for their team.
And always in a hurry (Type A I think they call it)
Lots of room for improvement,
but for the most part without guile.

My oldest daughter is 15 and I have not yet had to deal with those kind of issues, but I imagine my turn is coming unfortunately. I think the best thing to do is to pray for him and if he will, to pray with him.

NO, I hope you dont have any bumps!
And yes, he does pray with me! Not lately, because
he works three jobs and is very busy socially
and involved in church and such, plus works
out every day at the gym.
Hmmmmmm. I dont think he has time to see this
poor dear anyhow.

Well, Kid! mountain psychology would say that it's time to be your son's friend and not his mom. Being demanding and negative about what he is doing can result in rebellion. You might drive them closer. You can tell what you communicate to him about catholics by his reluctance to let mom in on this.

I can see how it would look that way, but I dont think so.
Example, although I knew he and his younger brother
were planning some trip to California, I found out today
two hours before they left that they were going today
and would be back around the 12th, 13th..

You should let God have a say in the matter.......pray! Maybe God wants you to learn something in all this !Be his friend

I am certain you're correct that God wants me
to learn from this!!
Me and the younger brothers are praying for GODS
will, not mine, not theirs.

I am waitin for that man from Texas. I hear em coming!

You lost me lol.
I'll get it later right?

You should rejoice that your son is dating a girl who is a member of the One True Church founded by Jesus Christ. Pray that your son will follow suit.

Thank you for the advice AIWG.
God bless you.

 

[sunlover1]

you need to hang out with more "Mediterraneans" -- our Thanksgiving get-togethers were ... loud... with emphatic genuine disagreement (in my family, we get upset'n adamant about ideas, not people - if that makes sense). And love each other dearly, and can't wait to see each other again. Don't be afraid of "noise"

It sounds awesome Thekla.
Is there any way you can
teach me how to develop
such lively discussion?
lol

 

[Apollo Celestio]

You should at least be allowed to meet her.
Reminds me, I should visit my mother. -_-; Haven't talked to her since Christmas time, and I'm not 1/10th as busy as your son..

 

[JoeyRatzinger]

Yeah cause God's a relativist in His standards of justification.

You're sounding an awful lot like a Roman Catholic with you second statement. Can't let THAT happen, SZ.

Hey I like that my friends from Rome stand on their principals, even though they are wrong in my view, so i'll take this as a compliment and not just another one of your backhanded jabs.

 

[JoeyRatzinger]

talk to him

he's gotta man up and lead if they're in a real relationship

Right on Mont!

 

[Thekla]

Right on Mont!

as long as the leading is in the manner of Christ's leading

 

[Uphill Battle]

Hey I like that my friends from Rome stand on their principals, even though they are wrong in my view, so i'll take this as a compliment and not just another one of your backhanded jabs.

Take it however you want, Simon.

 

[mont974x4]

as long as the leading is in the manner of Christ's leading

and she is willing to obediently submit





Thankfully we're just talking about a couple who is dating but the groundwork is laid now.