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leastone said:
Hi All:

First, I must apologize to you all, for I just read my last post and realized why Holy Spirit has been bothering me...especially all last night...pushing me to check this thread. I was at work when I wrote it and kept getting distracted, and I was not paying close attention to the Spirit after awhile...especially before sending. I can be such a goober.

We are told to "speak the truth in love", but too often in my zeal for truth I outrun love...and so can be far too blunt, or in this case, harsh, when that is last thing I mean to do.

And none of that was aimed toward anyone here anyway, it was a delayed reaction to stuff I normally try to ignore that I see or hear in the church or on TV. Political Christianity, Entertainment Christianity, Make-Me-Rich Christianity...there are so many brands of Christianity that use Jesus for their own gain...who misrepresent Him and thereby cheat His children from discovering the reality of His Love for them by substituting a cheap imitation. It makes me sad and it makes me angry (as it should us all) that so little regard is given by these folks to the real price that Jesus paid, and what it really costs to be found in Him.

Pilgrim, Angelwind, Brinny, SaveSis...all of you, please forgive me. You are all great...I sense His Life in you and His Love, and am always blessed when I read your postings.

But it is reasons like this is that I am least in His family and why He has had to discipline me so much in my life...so again, I sincerely apologize.

Leastone

I am so glad you are posting again Leastone...just like all of us are glad to have you here again. I just can't see anything for you to apologize for tho...(((((hugs)))))
 
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brinny said:
I wrote this a while back about God's grace and how He enabled me to do the 'impossible'...

Forgiveness...

I did not really love my mother until I "grew up". God's grace enabled me to see her differently, in a new light. I no longer saw her as a 'mommy' that did not meet my needs, who hurt me, but as a woman who suffered greatly as a child, and as an adult, and who was unable to ask my forgiveness. God enabled me to see past her faults and see her need. We developed a new relationship before she died and I am thankful to God for it. By the time she passed we had been reconciled and had a relationship that was genuinely a friendship. I had learned not to expect something from her that she was unable to give. In the beginning, our visits were brief, and lasted only as long as it was genuinely tolerable...I met with her in 'doses'. Our visits became longer, and always were because we genuinely enjoyed each others company. I saw clearly just who she was, her limitations, and mine. It was 'real' for the 1st time in my life. My mom knew that I genuinely loved, respected, and saw her as the unique person she was and that I delighted in being with her. I realized only after she died what God must have been doing....He was loving her through me.
This is very beautiful Brinny so touching for me...I needed to read it..
 
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angelwind said:
I am so glad you are posting again Leastone...just like all of us are glad to have you here again. I just can't see anything for you to apologize for tho...(((((hugs)))))
Yes, I agree with angelwind....And remember God loves you so much Leastone...He is there for you....Lean on Him....:hug:
 
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Dearly beloved leastone,

I pray that God continues to work through you, and to bring glory to His name through you, for you are such a blessing. This thread, and the responses, was one of the first places I landed on this site, and it has so met the needs of all (not just me) who come here, as we grow together. Isn't it exciting to grow in Christ? Even when we admit or express our impatience with ourselves and with the body.

I really want to thank you for expressing how seriously you take the responsibilities that God has laid upon your heart, and how seriously you take the spirit of religion that pervades our society and our world today (just as it pervaded the church in Jesus' times, huh?). At times I am overwhelmed by the critical and oh so inadequate responses of the body of Christ to the love of God that is so evident and wonderful. If we would only accept and walk in that love, we couldn't help but please God and turn hearts and minds everywhere to Him, for that is the power of His love.

But it's so cool that you're willing to share those thoughts; you certainly hit me right where I was hurting, at the very time I was hurting. And helped me frame my supplication to God. And as He often does, He answers in ways I'd never anticipated. But mostly He answered me with peace and joy and assurance that He does have a plan, and it's ok if I don't always see it.

The lack of spiritual discernment is exactly what He's placed in my heart the past few weeks, and by casting that pain at His feet, and reading your post and your reply further on, helped me to understand that for me at least, He's cleansing my heart so that I can let Him deal with that through me, relieving me of the overwhelming task of finding patience and a good way to share with those who are at a different place in their walk with Him. At the same time, He's opened my eyes and guided my intercession about the spirit of religion.

On a more personal level, He's given me a direct word to remind me that He's all knowing (He knows the shape His body is in), ever present and greater is He than is the world. He's given me the free grace of repentence, when I respond to the worldly with impatience, and prompted me into the joy of begging for forgiveness and guidance. I've always been one of accepting resonsibility, and expecting others to accept it as well, and He's given me permission to relinquish that responsibility to Him, for after all, it is His business that I'm so passionate about. He's reminded me that He's in charge of it all, and that at times I just need to come into His presence, and savor the observable presence of God even in the midst of our attacks by the adversary through his spirit of religion, which at times overwhelms me. You've summed it up so well:
We are told to "speak the truth in love", but too often in my zeal for truth I outrun love...and so can be far too blunt, or in this case, harsh, when that is last thing I mean to do.

And none of that was aimed toward anyone here anyway, it was a delayed reaction to stuff I normally try to ignore that I see or hear in the church or on TV. Political Christianity, Entertainment Christianity, Make-Me-Rich Christianity...there are so many brands of Christianity that use Jesus for their own gain...who misrepresent Him and thereby cheat His children from discovering the reality of His Love for them by substituting a cheap imitation. It makes me sad and it makes me angry (as it should us all) that so little regard is given by these folks to the real price that Jesus paid, and what it really costs to be found in Him

That is exactly how I was feeling the pain of the spirit of religion recently (and I'm sure I'll feel it again, for He's given me these pain vulnerabilities for a reason, I'm sure). To read your post, and your plea for forgiveness, just summed it up so well.

Then God . . . Yes, then God, reminded me that Godly sorrow is a good thing, it is a freeing thing. After I took that anger and sorrow to Him over the past few weeks, He gave me a blessed assurance that He is in charge. And that this is not the first time His people have fallen for the attacks on the very body itself. He encouraged me to remember that greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world. While many will cling to the form of religion (subjecting themselves to and giving in to the spirit of religion) but deny the power thereof (denying the Holy Ghost power and the spiritual nature of the battle we are in), we will overcome. We have overcome, through the blood of our precious savior. And He cares more than we are able to that none be lost, and is pleased that we care. But He doesn't want us to give in to dispair and doubt, for He will do what His Word says He will: He will perfect that which He has commenced in us. And He's given us the privilege of prayer to take these fears directly to Him. And He's given us the body to build us up here. I thank Him so much.

I wonder sometimes if He desires less of my zeal and more of my presence and closeness to Him. For it's in those tearful times I fall on my face over the problems of this world and over my inadequate responses to the responsibilities I claim, that He gives me relief. After all, it is His business, not mine, and His ways are far beyond my understanding, for now I know in part but later it will all become clear. What peace and joy as I wipe my tears away, and feel the love and joy spreading over me, what relief when He assured me that He hears my prayers and that these things are being taken care of in the heavenlies. He forgives me for how I handle the things He's entrusted to me, He knows I'm not perfect, but He's made me blameless through Christ who lives in me.

I hope I've not been too obtuse in this reply, but sincerely want to thank you for sharing your thoughts because they were thoughts I've had as well. May the worldly things we encounter cause us to snuggle up a little closer to God, and cause us to hear Him a little more clearly, for what He shared with me as I repented sure cleaned out a little more of my soul, and refreshed me with the joy of His bountiful grace and His awesome power. May we always be quick to forgive ourselves and love the Christ that is in us, so we can be an example of His forgiveness and love to others. And may we always worship Him with repentence first (for it is His free gift of grace and it allows us to come to Him clean), blessing Him with thanksgiving praise for He truly has given us all the spiritual blessings of the heavenlies! Open our eyes, dear Lord, to the glory that is you.

Your sister in Christ,
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EarthMomma said:
Dearly beloved leastone,

I pray that God continues to work through you, and to bring glory to His name through you, for you are such a blessing. This thread, and the responses, was one of the first places I landed on this site, and it has so met the needs of all (not just me) who come here, as we grow together. Isn't it exciting to grow in Christ? Even when we admit or express our impatience with ourselves and with the body.

I really want to thank you for expressing how seriously you take the responsibilities that God has laid upon your heart, and how seriously you take the spirit of religion that pervades our society and our world today (just as it pervaded the church in Jesus' times, huh?). At times I am overwhelmed by the critical and oh so inadequate responses of the body of Christ to the love of God that is so evident and wonderful. If we would only accept and walk in that love, we couldn't help but please God and turn hearts and minds everywhere to Him, for that is the power of His love.

But it's so cool that you're willing to share those thoughts; you certainly hit me right where I was hurting, at the very time I was hurting. And helped me frame my supplication to God. And as He often does, He answers in ways I'd never anticipated. But mostly He answered me with peace and joy and assurance that He does have a plan, and it's ok if I don't always see it.

The lack of spiritual discernment is exactly what He's placed in my heart the past few weeks, and by casting that pain at His feet, and reading your post and your reply further on, helped me to understand that for me at least, He's cleansing my heart so that I can let Him deal with that through me, relieving me of the overwhelming task of finding patience and a good way to share with those who are at a different place in their walk with Him. At the same time, He's opened my eyes and guided my intercession about the spirit of religion.

On a more personal level, He's given me a direct word to remind me that He's all knowing (He knows the shape His body is in), ever present and greater is He than is the world. He's given me the free grace of repentence, when I respond to the worldly with impatience, and prompted me into the joy of begging for forgiveness and guidance. I've always been one of accepting resonsibility, and expecting others to accept it as well, and He's given me permission to relinquish that responsibility to Him, for after all, it is His business that I'm so passionate about. He's reminded me that He's in charge of it all, and that at times I just need to come into His presence, and savor the observable presence of God even in the midst of our attacks by the adversary through his spirit of religion, which at times overwhelms me. You've summed it up so well:

That is exactly how I was feeling the pain of the spirit of religion recently (and I'm sure I'll feel it again, for He's given me these pain vulnerabilities for a reason, I'm sure). To read your post, and your plea for forgiveness, just summed it up so well.

Then God . . . Yes, then God, reminded me that Godly sorrow is a good thing, it is a freeing thing. After I took that anger and sorrow to Him over the past few weeks, He gave me a blessed assurance that He is in charge. And that this is not the first time His people have fallen for the attacks on the very body itself. He encouraged me to remember that greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world. While many will cling to the form of religion (subjecting themselves to and giving in to the spirit of religion) but deny the power thereof (denying the Holy Ghost power and the spiritual nature of the battle we are in), we will overcome. We have overcome, through the blood of our precious savior. And He cares more than we are able to that none be lost, and is pleased that we care. But He doesn't want us to give in to dispair and doubt, for He will do what His Word says He will: He will perfect that which He has commenced in us. And He's given us the privilege of prayer to take these fears directly to Him. And He's given us the body to build us up here. I thank Him so much.

I wonder sometimes if He desires less of my zeal and more of my presence and closeness to Him. For it's in those tearful times I fall on my face over the problems of this world and over my inadequate responses to the responsibilities I claim, that He gives me relief. After all, it is His business, not mine, and His ways are far beyond my understanding, for now I know in part but later it will all become clear. What peace and joy as I wipe my tears away, and feel the love and joy spreading over me, what relief when He assured me that He hears my prayers and that these things are being taken care of in the heavenlies. He forgives me for how I handle the things He's entrusted to me, He knows I'm not perfect, but He's made me blameless through Christ who lives in me.

I hope I've not been too obtuse in this reply, but sincerely want to thank you for sharing your thoughts because they were thoughts I've had as well. May the worldly things we encounter cause us to snuggle up a little closer to God, and cause us to hear Him a little more clearly, for what He shared with me as I repented sure cleaned out a little more of my soul, and refreshed me with the joy of His bountiful grace and His awesome power. May we always be quick to forgive ourselves and love the Christ that is in us, so we can be an example of His forgiveness and love to others. And may we always worship Him with repentence first (for it is His free gift of grace and it allows us to come to Him clean), blessing Him with thanksgiving praise for He truly has given us all the spiritual blessings of the heavenlies! Open our eyes, dear Lord, to the glory that is you.

Your sister in Christ,
EarthMomma
Amen....Rest is an anchor of the soul..(Hebrews 6:19)..which keeps us from being tossed around on the sea of circumstances...It's not just the feeling of ease we get from a vacation or the relaxation of a sound sleep at night; true rest is a place inside ourselves where we can be still and know that He is God, no matter what appears to be happening around us...Jesus says, "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest" Matt..11:28 He wants us not to allow our hearts to be troubled but to resist it by deciding to rest in Him...We must say.."God, I choose this day to enter into the rest You have for me...Show me how."
When we do that, God reveals all that stands in our way, Resting is "casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you" (1 Peter 5:7) and learning to be content no matter what the circumstances (Phil. 4:11)...not necessarily being delighted with the circumstances but being able to say, "God is in charge, I have prayed about it, He knows my need, I am obeying to the best of my knowledge, I can rest."
 
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Dear Brother Leastone,
My sisters here are always such a blessing to me.
They have so much love and wisdom. When I read
your post, I honestly saw nothing out of line. I agreed with it. Then when you later posted an apology, I was confused. I went back and read it 3 times and still didn't understand what you were asking forgiveness for. I want to be very careful with what I say now, partly because I don't want to interfere with the working of the Holy Spirit, and partly because I want to correctly discern what He is speaking to me.

I believe that God is raising up Watchmen in this generation. That isn't to say that He hasn't always had watchmen, but time is getting shorter, and many of us are feeling an urgency that continues to get stronger. I am observing the Lord doing great healing works in the body of Christ. Many who have been wounded badly by other Christians are coming into the fullness of God through His healing balm and through repentance. I am one of them. Having said all of that, I believe that what sometimes comes up in some of us is righteous, Godly anger at the "ministry" and actions of some who are using the Cross of Christ and all it represents for self promotion, foolishness and fleshly desires. Twice in my personal walk with God, He has had to seriously reprimand me for some doctrines and behaviors that were to use the venacular "whacked". When He spoke to me this way, I could do nothing but fall on my face before Him. It was at those moments I had a pretty good understanding of "the fear of God". I praise Him and love Him all the more because He took this somewhat hard line with me. It was the only thing that would have gotten through to me, and I was on some pretty dangerous ground spiritually. He did it out of love and mercy. His love endures forever, but we must never forget that our God is HOLY. His love endures forever, but sometimes His love is loving us enough to hurt us a little so we don't end up spiritually dead. Sometimes we are called on to rebuke the actions of others. Only our Lord knows how to do that in a way which can bring wholeness and healing, but sometimes it can sound hard. I think the reason you take your ministry so seriously, Leastone, is because of the fear of God in you. And the word of God says that "the fear of God, is the beginning of wisdom." God's calling on the Watchman is deadly serious, but He takes us all through much training and preparation for whatever ministry He has placed His calling in us to do. Trust Him. Learn to abide in Him more and more. I think the following scriptures might speak to you: Psalm 69:9, Isaiah 21:6, Isaiah 62:6, Jeremiah 6:17, Hosea 8:1-4, Joel 2:1

Love in our Lord Jesus,
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Thank you beautiful brides, for you take our engagement seriously. The Good News, the beautiful news, is our precious Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, is our anchor, and while we've been called to watch over His Body, never ceasing to proclaim His name and His love, He's right there sitting on the wall with us. He makes it all possible. He surely is the strength in the remnant, and I so agree that He is building up His bride, with power and with glory. May we continue to see that glory as we examine our hearts.
 
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EarthMomma said:
Thank you beautiful brides, for you take our engagement seriously. The Good News, the beautiful news, is our precious Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, is our anchor, and while we've been called to watch over His Body, never ceasing to proclaim His name and His love, He's right there sitting on the wall with us. He makes it all possible. He surely is the strength in the remnant, and I so agree that He is building up His bride, with power and with glory. May we continue to see that glory as we examine our hearts.


Amen, Earthmama. I really like that phrase, "He surely is the strength in the remnant."
I think you have captured the whole truth when you say "He's right there sitting on the wall with us." Oh, how glorious. And when we weep for those who are hurting and lost and in rebellion, it is His tears we shed.

Everything is about Him. About the Cross. About glorifying God. About the love that is so great that it is beyond our comprehension. God's mercy and grace are astounding, incredible...there are no words to express the greatness of the character of God and who He trully is. The enemy's only weapon is deception. All he can do is try to convince the world ( and God's children too! ) that our God doesn't love us. And doesn't everything in this world prove that? But He is not of this world.

"Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, 'For Your sake we are killed all day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.' Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:35-39

The Word says nothing can separate us from God's love. That means that all Satan can do is deceive us into thinking that God can stop loving us for any reason.

Think of that. The maker of the universe loves me. Loves you. He loved us first, when we were still in rebellion, in sin...He loved us before we ever knew Him.

Thank You, precious Lord Jesus.
 
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Hi Saints:

Thank you all for your encouragement and wise advice. The Lord continues to bless me through you and I appreciate that beyond what I can express.

You have found me out, that while I can forgive others easily, I am always hardest on myself. It is only God's grace given us in Christ that enables me to stay focused on Him and ignore the many faults I can so easily find in myself. Especially the closer I get to Him, the more aware do I become of my shortcomings it seems.

I will share another quick story with you, as the Spirit has just now reminded me, that the Lord used one time (and continues to use) to help me in this:

As most of us go through, there was a time when I struggled to live up to the high standard found in Christ, and continued to fail miserably time after time. (This is one of the biggest errors in traditional Church teaching, that we can somehow clean ourselves up...an impossible task.)

I cried to the Lord, asking Him what was was wrong with me, why I could never do anything right, and He gave me these "visions" to convey a very simple, but powerful lesson:

First, I saw a group of children playing in a yard where there were a bunch of mud puddles. As I looked around, there were kids playing in the mud, some just sitting in the middle of the puddles, some running around jumping in one after another. And in the middle of all this was a man patiently cleaning the mud off the children, one by one; at least the ones he could catch, for most of them were running from him rather to to him.

As I watched all of this, the Spirit said, "There you are.", and I saw a child standing by the man, waiting his turn to be cleaned up. He then said, "See son, you are learning to come to Me when you know you are dirty so that I may clean you up, rather than running away from Me as so many of My children do."

The vision changed then, and I could see all of these children coming into the light of a house from the darkness outside. The children were filthy, but they didn't know it until they got closer to the light that streamed from the open door. Seeing how dirty they were (only revealed in the light) many were too ashamed to go any further into the light of the house.

The Spirit then said, "It is only as you grow in Christ and come into His Light that you become aware of just how dark the sin is in you. This is why it is so important to keep your eyes on the Light and not focus on the dirt you see on your self. What you focus on is what you become."

Through this and similar insights (many of them because I am kind of slow sometimes) He continues to show me that only in the precious Blood have we been truly cleansed of sin, and even the consciousness of sin.

I wish I could say I have fully learned this, but I am still far too aware of my fleshly self; praise God however, I am learning daily to trust Him and receive in myself what has been freely given us in Christ.

As always, I pray that the Lord bless you all, that you be found in Christ in the soon coming Day of the Lord.

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My Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ:

I praise God for you all, for He is using your words of faith and love to me to bring to completion a work He has been performing in me for some time. And I admit, it is a completion that I both desire and fear, for it is a dealing with my flesh that causes it to shudder and resist.

But I know that I cannot express the revelation He has been giving me without willingly experiencing this death, just as I know that I cannot express His Life apart from His Spirit that annoints and guides and lives within each member of His Body. For He has shown me through you that even if I were able to write words that are mostly true, both Christ Jesus and you, His Body and Bride, deserve far more than "mostly". And I know that, as much as I may complain, All that the Lord has ever put me through is nothing more than what other people also experience in life, and He is worth all that and more.

As we all know, when we handle the things of God - when we experience Him directly in our lives - we are dealing with Reality; and the thing about Reality is that we are not only in it, but it is in us as well. When your Boss lives within you there is no escaping Him; since He knows you inside and out, every part of your life is under His scrutiny and belongs to Him.

So, I would like to leave you for awhile with something wonderful; something the Lord corrected in my recent "I believe" post about the Body and the Bride. He says there is a way to "guarantee" that we be found in that group, and that is to "endure to the end" in our running after Him. And I praise Him for bringing this to our attention, for I admit that over the past few months, I have been growing weary in the lonliness of my walk with Him.

But He has spoken to me through you dear sisters and I am deeply moved by this, and appreciate you in Him, and Him in you, with all my heart. For He has lifted me up through your faithfulness and your love.

I will probably not post anything for a little while, because I must get through this time first, that He may purify me and enable me to receive from Him what I know in my spirit He desires to reveal;, so that I may be able handle it with the reverance He deserves, and impart the teaching to you, His Body. For I have long known that it is a message of holiness and righteousness, topics I feel unworthy to even mention; but Christ has made us worthy, and so regardless of my feelings, I believe Him in this (although that statement is made before Him with tears and despite the testimony of my own flesh against it.)

I love you all, for I have seen in you the same Spirit Who lives in me; the same Lord Who I know and serve. Thank you for sharing Him with me at this time, and so encouraging me to continue on.

Leastone
 
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leastone said:
My Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ:

I praise God for you all, for He is using your words of faith and love to me to bring to completion a work He has been performing in me for some time. And I admit, it is a completion that I both desire and fear, for it is a dealing with my flesh that causes it to shudder and resist.

But I know that I cannot express the revelation He has been giving me without willingly experiencing this death, just as I know that I cannot express His Life apart from His Spirit that annoints and guides and lives within each member of His Body. For He has shown me through you that even if I were able to write words that are mostly true, both Christ Jesus and you, His Body and Bride, deserve far more than "mostly". And I know that, as much as I may complain, All that the Lord has ever put me through is nothing more than what other people also experience in life, and He is worth all that and more.

As we all know, when we handle the things of God - when we experience Him directly in our lives - we are dealing with Reality; and the thing about Reality is that we are not only in it, but it is in us as well. When your Boss lives within you there is no escaping Him; since He knows you inside and out, every part of your life is under His scrutiny and belongs to Him.

So, I would like to leave you for awhile with something wonderful; something the Lord corrected in my recent "I believe" post about the Body and the Bride. He says there is a way to "guarantee" that we be found in that group, and that is to "endure to the end" in our running after Him. And I praise Him for bringing this to our attention, for I admit that over the past few months, I have been growing weary in the lonliness of my walk with Him.

But He has spoken to me through you dear sisters and I am deeply moved by this, and appreciate you in Him, and Him in you, with all my heart. For He has lifted me up through your faithfulness and your love.

I will probably not post anything for a little while, because I must get through this time first, that He may purify me and enable me to receive from Him what I know in my spirit He desires to reveal;, so that I may be able handle it with the reverance He deserves, and impart the teaching to you, His Body. For I have long known that it is a message of holiness and righteousness, topics I feel unworthy to even mention; but Christ has made us worthy, and so regardless of my feelings, I believe Him in this (although that statement is made before Him with tears and despite the testimony of my own flesh against it.)

I love you all, for I have seen in you the same Spirit Who lives in me; the same Lord Who I know and serve. Thank you for sharing Him with me at this time, and so encouraging me to continue on.

Leastone

Leastone...you have encouraged me this morning so much...my heart was just breaking from lonileness last night...loniless in so many ways...but mostly this lonilness in my walk with the Lord as well...I do not think I am a watchman...I am just His child...but this learning to endure to the end is vital...and He had been breaking me over that very thing...breaking the strength I thought I had and replacing it with His grace, humility and strength.

We need watchmen for this day...this season...we need some Elijahs and John the Baptists...you are in my prayers if that is what the Lord is planning for you. :hug:

For this reason, since the day we heard it, we have not ceased praying for you and asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of God's will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding,
so that you may live lives worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to Him, as you bear fruit in every good work and as you grow in the knowledge of God.

May you be made strong with all the strength that comes from his glorious power, and may you be prepared to endure everything with patience, while joyfully giving thanks to the Father,
who has enabled you to share in the inheritance of the saints of light.

He has rescued us from the power of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Collossians 1:9-14
 
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angelwind said:
...my heart was just breaking from lonileness last night...loniless in so many ways...but mostly this lonilness in my walk with the Lord as well...

Hi AngelWind:

Before I leave for the day, I wanted to post this article written by A.W. Tozer. I pray it ministers to you as it has to me. And thank you for your prayers and uplifting words; I need them both (as we all do).

The Saint Must Walk Alone

A.W. Tozer

Most of the world's great souls have been lonely. Loneliness seems to be one price the saint must pay for his saintliness.

In the morning of the world (or should we say, in that strange darkness that came soon after the dawn of man's creation), that pious soul, Enoch, walked with God and was not, for God took him; and while it is not stated in so many words, a fair inference is that Enoch walked a path quite apart from his contemporaries.

Another lonely man was Noah who, of all the antediluvians, found grace in the sight of God; and every shred of evidence points to the aloneness of his life even while surrounded by his people.

Again, Abraham had Sarah and Lot, as well as many servants and herdsmen, but who can read his story and the apostolic comment upon it without sensing instantly that he was a man "whose soul was alike a star and dwelt apart"? As far as we know not one word did God ever speak to him in the company of men. Face down he communed with his God, and the innate dignity of the man forbade that he assume this posture in the presence of others. How sweet and solemn was the scene that night of the sacrifice when he saw the lamps of fire moving between the pieces of offering. There, alone with a horror of great darkness upon him, he heard the voice of God and knew that he was a man marked for divine favor.

Moses also was a man apart. While yet attached to the court of Pharaoh he took long walks alone, and during one of these walks while far removed from the crowds he saw an Egyptian and a Hebrew fighting and came to the rescue of his countryman. After the resultant break with Egypt he dwelt in almost complete seclusion in the desert. There, while he watched his sheep alone, the wonder of the burning bush appeared to him, and later on the peak of Sinai he crouched alone to gaze in fascinated awe at the Presence, partly hidden, partly disclosed, within the cloud and fire.

The prophets of pre-Christian times differed widely from each other, but one mark they bore in common was their enforced loneliness. They loved their people and gloried in the religion of the fathers, but their loyalty to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and their zeal for the welfare of the nation of Israel drove them away from the crowd and into long periods of heaviness. "I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children," cried one and unwittingly spoke for all the rest.



Most revealing of all is the sight of that One of whom Moses and all the prophets did write, treading His lonely way to the cross. His deep loneliness was unrelieved by the presence of the multitudes.
'Tis midnight, and on Olive's brow

The star is dimmed that lately shone;
'Tis midnight; in the garden now,
The suffering Savior prays alone.

'Tis midnight, and from all removed
The Savior wrestles lone with fears;
E'en the disciple whom He loved
Heeds not his Master's grief and tears.

- William B. Tappan


He died alone in the darkness hidden from the sight of mortal man and no one saw Him when He arose triumphant and walked out of the tomb, though many saw Him afterward and bore witness to what they saw. There are some things too sacred for any eye but God's to look upon. The curiosity, the clamor, the well-meant but blundering effort to help can only hinder the waiting soul and make unlikely if not impossible the communication of the secret message of God to the worshiping heart.

Sometimes we react by a kind of religious reflex and repeat dutifully the proper words and phrases even though they fail to express our real feelings and lack the authenticity of personal experience. Right now is such a time. A certain conventional loyalty may lead some who hear this unfamiliar truth expressed for the first time to say brightly, "Oh, I am never lonely. Christ said, `I will never leave you nor forsake you,' and `Lo, I am with you alway.' How can I be lonely when Jesus is with me?"

Now I do not want to reflect on the sincerity of any Christian soul, but this stock testimony is too neat to be real. It is obviously what the speaker thinks should be true rather than what he has proved to be true by the test of experience. This cheerful denial of loneliness proves only that the speaker has never walked with God without the support and encouragement afforded him by society. The sense of companionship which he mistakenly attributes to the presence of Christ may and probably does arise from the presence of friendly people.

Always remember: you cannot carry a cross in company.

Though a man were surrounded by a vast crowd, his cross is his alone and his carrying of it marks him as a man apart. Society has turned against him; otherwise he would have no cross. No one is a friend to the man with a cross. "They all forsook Him, and fled."

The pain of loneliness arises from the constitution of our nature. God made us for each other. The desire for human companionship is completely natural and right. The loneliness of the Christian results from his walk with God in an ungodly world, a walk that must often take him away from the fellowship of good Christians as well as from that of the unregenerate world. His God-given instincts cry out for companionship with others of his kind, others who can understand his longings, his aspirations, his absorption in the love of Christ; and because within his circle of friends there are so few who share inner experiences, he is forced to walk alone. The unsatisfied longings of the prophets for human understanding caused them to cry out in their complaint, and even our Lord Himself suffered in the same way.

The man who has passed on into the divine Presence in actual inner experience will not find many who understand him. A certain amount of social fellowship will of course be his as he mingles with religious persons in the regular activities of the church, but true spiritual fellowship will be hard to find. But he should not expect things to be otherwise. After all he is a stranger and a pilgrim, and the journey he takes is not on his feet but in his heart. He walks with God in the garden of his own soul - and who but God can walk there with him? He is of another spirit from the multitudes that tread the courts of the Lord's house. He has seen that of which they have only heard, and he walks among them somewhat as Zacharias walked after his return from the altar when the people whispered, "He has seen a vision."

The truly spiritual man is indeed something of an oddity. He lives not for himself but to promote the interests of Another. He seeks to persuade people to give all to his Lord and asks no portion or share for himself. He delights not to be honored but to see his Savior glorified in the eyes of men. His joy is to see his Lord promoted and himself neglected. He finds few who care to talk about that which is the supreme object of his interest, so he is often silent and preoccupied in the midst of noisy religious shoptalk. For this he earns the reputation of being dull and overserious, so he is avoided and the gulf between him and society widens. He searches for friends upon whose garments he can detect the smell of myrrh and aloes and cassia out of the ivory palaces, and finding few or none, he, like Mary of old, keeps these things in his heart.

It is this very loneliness that throws him back upon God. "When my father and my mother forsake me, then the Lord will take me up." His inability to find human companionship drives him to seek in God what he can find nowhere else. He learns in inner solitude what he could not have learned in the crowd - that Christ is All in All, that He is made unto us wisdom, righteousness, sanctification and redemption, that in Him we have and possess life's summum bonum.

Two things remain to be said. One, that the lonely man of whom we speak is not a haughty man, nor is he the holier-than-thou, austere saint so bitterly satirized in popular literature. He is likely to feel that he is the least of all men and is sure to blame himself for his very loneliness. He wants to share his feelings with others and to open his heart to some like-minded soul who will understand him, but the spiritual climate around him does not encourage it, so he remains silent and tells his griefs to God alone.

The second thing is that the lonely saint is not the withdrawn man who hardens himself against human suffering and spends his days contemplating the heavens. Just the opposite is true. His loneliness makes him sympathetic to the approach of the brokenhearted and the fallen and the sin-bruised. Because he is detached from the world, he is all the more able to help it. Meister Eckhart taught his followers that if they should find themselves in prayer and happen to remember that a poor widow needed food, they should break off the prayer instantly and go care for the widow. "God will not suffer you to lose anything by it," he told them. "You can take up again in prayer where you left off and the Lord will make it up to you." This is typical of the great mystics and masters of the interior life from Paul to the present day.

The weakness of so many modern Christians is that they feel too much at home in the world. In their effort to achieve restful "adjustment" to unregenerate society they have lost their pilgrim character and become an essential part of the very moral order against which they are sent to protest. The world recognizes them and accepts them for what they are. And this is the saddest thing that can be said about them. They are not lonely, but neither are they saints.

May God bless you with this.

Leastone
 
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leastone said:
So, I would like to leave you for awhile with something wonderful; something the Lord corrected in my recent "I believe" post about the Body and the Bride. He says there is a way to "guarantee" that we be found in that group, and that is to "endure to the end" in our running after Him. And I praise Him for bringing this to our attention, for I admit that over the past few months, I have been growing weary in the lonliness of my walk with Him.

I knew there must be something very special with the Bride, although I don't understand it very well.

There is a verse in Revelation 22 which touched my heart during the last few months and made me meditate very often about it.

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. (Revelation 22:17)

I ask myself sometimes:
How much do I long for the Lord's coming?
How much do I love Him?
Do I say with all my heart: Come my Lord?
Is there anything which prevent me to wait You with all my heart, in total obedience?

There's no burden too heavy, or no situation too hard for the one that you love. If we are love-controlled, love-motivated, and love- energized, it will be all right when we stand up there, because if there's anything about love - it's obedient. We need to become a people who are baptized with obedience. We need to be submissive to the total will of God, not concerned about human opinion, and not asking for more to spend on ourselves. We need to say, "Oh God, I want this life of mine to glorify You, so that when I stand in Your awesome presence, as John says, I shall not be ashamed at Your appearing" (I John 2:28).
Leonard Ravenhill

Oh Lord, please reveal me Your Glory to be overwhelmed by Your love and mercy. I need to love you as a Bride loves her Bridegroom.
 
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The Lord has just opened my eyes to see the danger I've been through.
During the time when I just wanted to give up and I've been very discouraged, the Devil, which is a Big Liar, whispered very softly in my mind that God has something against me and He left me.

Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. 1 Cor. 10:9

How did they tempt Christ?

And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they tempted the LORD, saying, Is the LORD among us, or not? (Exodus 17:7)

Likewise, I was tempted to believe the Liar's lies: Is God still with me when all these things happen to me?
What a stupid question and dangerous situation!

I praise God because He opened my eyes and had mercy on me.
 
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vasile said:
The Lord has just opened my eyes to see the danger I've been through.
During the time when I just wanted to give up and I've been very discouraged, the Devil, which is a Big Liar, whispered very softly in my mind that God has something against me and He left me.

Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. 1 Cor. 10:9

How did they tempt Christ?

And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah, because of the chiding of the children of Israel, and because they tempted the LORD, saying, Is the LORD among us, or not? (Exodus 17:7)

Likewise, I was tempted to believe the Liar's lies: Is God still with me when all these things happen to me?
What a stupid question and dangerous situation!

I praise God because He opened my eyes and had mercy on me.
Yes, God is with us through our trials, He will never leave us or forsake us...I praise Him for this promise.....:clap:
 
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